Lem's 2015 Indoor/Outdoor/Anywhere It'll Grow Journal

Well all the PK,SD,UD,JD,GD have officially started to flower, even the plants in Planter's 1 and 2 are all flowering. Its amazing how your looking at them and nothing and then in the morning the following day its a pre-flower party. Its just BITCHEN lol TOAST right now La Vida Loca's on the radio. Upside inside out.
 
Well all the PK,SD,UD,JD,GD have officially started to flower, even the plants in Planter's 1 and 2 are all flowering. Its amazing how your looking at them and nothing and then in the morning the following day its a pre-flower party. Its just BITCHEN lol TOAST right now La Vida Loca's on the radio. Upside inside out.

Them flowering hormones communicate.

I lost a clone of a plant n flower, so I took a flowering clone and put it in my veg room - 50% of my veg room went into preflower within the next 2 days. Glad you think I'm funny sometimes- that's bitchen :)
 
Them flowering hormones communicate.

I lost a clone of a plant n flower, so I took a flowering clone and put it in my veg room - 50% of my veg room went into preflower within the next 2 days. Glad you think I'm funny sometimes- that's bitchen :)

Yes they tend to synchronize flowering time when grown in bunches.
 
Well last night I went to check and water my remaining 30 bagged clones and there all rooted. Yeah. I will leave them in the bag's for a couple more days, until the roots are really poppin, before I put them in soil. I'm really happy, this last batch was a real bitch to get to root. I thought I was going to lose them all. But I won. TOAST
 
Okay so there's a misconception. There actually has never been a "flowering hormone" that's been found. It's actually a protein that gets synthesized upon signalling to flower given by the pattern of far red vs. red light (cis/trans conversions of the molecule) in day vs. night. So it's this "rhythm" or light pattern assessed by the photo receptors that determine when it's time to start making Florigen (the protein).

Giberellins, the main vegetative hormone for the plant exists, but as far as I've heard or read there is not such a compound classified as a hormone that actually induces flowering. Either it hasn't been found or doesn't exist.

On the topic of how the plants can "tingle" each other with the scent of their aromas, it's certainly possible that an intense aroma in the field could help to trigger the onset of florigen, however usually the plants emit a gas known as ethylene which is known to induce ripening, and probably more florigen production, in many fruits. So ethylene could technically help signal more florigen production as well.

The gases emitted from the plant won't cause plants to flower spontaneously, as you need a certain pattern/light schedule to induce florigen via the photoreceptors :volcano-smiley:
 
As far as autoflowers go, they probably have it encoded into their genes to make florigen after a certain/allotted time alive, so that it's not dependent on the photoreceptors like with photoperiod plants. :thumb:
 
Okay so there's a misconception. There actually has never been a "flowering hormone" that's been found. It's actually a protein that gets synthesized upon signalling to flower given by the pattern of far red vs. red light (cis/trans conversions of the molecule) in day vs. night. So it's this "rhythm" or light pattern assessed by the photo receptors that determine when it's time to start making Florigen (the protein).

Giberellins, the main vegetative hormone for the plant exists, but as far as I've heard or read there is not such a compound classified as a hormone that actually induces flowering. Either it hasn't been found or doesn't exist.

On the topic of how the plants can "tingle" each other with the scent of their aromas, it's certainly possible that an intense aroma in the field could help to trigger the onset of florigen, however usually the plants emit a gas known as ethylene which is known to induce ripening, and probably more florigen production, in many fruits. So ethylene could technically help signal more florigen production as well.

The gases emitted from the plant won't cause plants to flower spontaneously, as you need a certain pattern/light schedule to induce florigen via the photoreceptors :volcano-smiley:

See that sounds all fine in theory, but it doesn't match with this one incident in my veg room - and it sounds like other incidents in other grow rooms.
The pre-flowering event did not coincide with light, heat, insect, watering events or obvious plant age except that in a perpetual grow bloom area, with stable light for their entire lives, plants over 2 months old, including some several months old, all made the decision at the same time.

I never meant a literal "flowering hormone" more the kind of signal that happens when 50% of the women at yoga camp get their period on the same day. One could call it Cosmic Ectoplasmic Communication, but that sounded kind-of woowoo, elf majickey, so I went with hormone.

I'll be on the lookout for confirmation bias, but since it happened to me, it's like life in the universe: how egotistical would I have to be to think I'm the only one it has every happened to ? It's not science, but by New England Salem Witch Trial standards, that is humble, god-fearing spectral evidence.
 
The most simple answer is usually the correct one. Pre-flowering is normal and occurs naturally as the specimens become sexually mature and fully ready to flower. They are annual species, at some point they're going to pre-flower hard, but that's not the same as fully budding.

If you put a flowering clone in a room full of old photoperiod veggers, you shouldn't have the entire room fully flower and bud out. Perhaps the ethylene coming from that flowering clone caused your other specimens to strongly pre-flower, but again, that's not the same thing as full-fledged flowering.

Hormone or protein, at this point it's all semantics :) :passitleft:
 
Well just finished Foilage spraying my plants which I have been doing sense the start. I have a 2 gal sprayer and I put in 1sp of white vinegar, 2 caps full of Foxfarms Grow Big and a cap full of Super Thrive:
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and then I add 2 gal's of water that has set out in 5 gal buckets for 24 hours. And then I go spray my plants any time between Sunset and 3:00am. I like to let them get good and dry before they get pelted 90 to 100 degree weather. Every thing is in full swing except for this one SLH plant:
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and if it was to start today it wont be done until the end of November. So its gonna be Merry Xmas SLH. Oh and the RKS in Planter #2 just breeched 9 ft. Pretty Bitchen. LOL Later TOAST
 
Good to hear it. I did it too with Grape Dogs I think and they turn females so far.
 
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