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re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

smokin442200 said:
SO BASICALLY EVEN THOUGHT YOU GREW THREE PLANTS UNDER HER LIGHTS AND SHE HAD ONLY ONE PLANT DO GOOD WITCH IS WHY SHE GETS THE WIN,SHE WANTS YOU TO STILL BUY (HER) LIGHTS.THATS SILLY I SAW ALL THOSE PLANTS WITH MY OWN EYES,AND HER BLUE DREAMS WERE JUST SHITTY(WHOLE PLANT)....HER HINDU WAS JUST A SOLDIER STRAIN..ALSO SHE CLAIMS IRISH DOESNT KNOW THE SCIENCE BEHIND LED'S, BUT HE NEVER CLAIMED TOO...SO DOES THAT MEAN U HAVE TO KNOW THE SCIENCE BEHIND THE LIGHTS TO GROW GOOD BUDS..HMMM EVERYONE CAN BELIEVE WHAT THEY WANT BUT PS DID BETTER (WHOLE PLANTS) ALSO OTHER COMPANIES CONTACT IRISH AND GIVE HIM FREE LIGHTS..SHOULD HE SAY KNOW TO A FREE 600W LED ...I SAY THIS CUZ I KNOW:bong:
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you know whats up bro because you were at the trim party and seen it with ur own eyes. we both seen each plant grow up and who really had the better buds, but the only reason why PS lost is because their HS was a runt, we both seen it with our own eyes. we both know the truth.

ya that is real funny she says i dont know the science behind led to grow good buds?lol.. so is she saying if you dont know everything about leds dont use her light?lol. thats some funny stuff. the real funny thing is that she claims to know all about led grow lights, but yet once her 1st gen lights went to shit she changes her formula and uses 5% white. WTF!! you know all about leds and you used 20% white then found out it dose very little for our plant its just used as a filler, so u change it to 5%? and i am the one who dosent know the science about leds? what a joke. then you say the only reason u still use white is so us growers can see our plants better? why would i want to waist 5% worth of my bloom leds so i can see my plats better when i can use a lamp or flash light? i rather use that 5% towards my flowering.
then you claim you 60 degree leds can do a 38" plant not counting the 12" the light is above ur canopy, yet you say my lights was to far from the plants when it was at 12"?? WTF. my plants wernt even 38" tall.lol and i still had pen size buds for my top cola, then my mid size buds were smaller then a penny. WTF is that. and you say ur light equal a 400w hps.lol.
also why dont you put ur money where ur mouth is and quite being a chicken $hit and do a real side by side! why are you know doing ur 205w unit against a 400w hps? why wont you use ur 126w unit in the 400w side by side test? isnt the 126w claimed to be equal to a 400w hps? so why use the 205w unit???? isnt ur 205w unit claimed to be equal to a 600w hps so why test it against a 400w hps? what a joke!

i am sorry but this is the only place i can say this without her deleting my post.

if anyone has any doubt ask smokin442200 he seen it with his own eyes, shit he even helped me trim them. he know what light really did what. their is a reason why i got rid of her light and kept my 180w. because the 180w made better buds it was just their hindu screwed them over. anyone can believe what they want but this is the straight 100% truth. think about it i would have gotten rid of the 180w if it realy did worst instead of the 126w. i look at it this way if the 180w BD did that much better then it would have done better with the hindu skunk if given a chance.

but for any of these leds to be compared to HID is a joke. you will not beat a 400w hps with 126w of leds. and you will not beat a 600w hps with 180w of leds bottom line.
 
re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

wizewizo said:
Irish, do you by chance have any journals of any of your HPS grows where you have achieved 1g/watt? I believe it can be achieved done once shits dialed, it's just as you know the proof lies in the pudding...
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when i grew with HID i never went on the forums, the only reason why i started on the forms was because of leds. thats why my first led grow i ever did isn't on the forms because i wasn't posting back then. i didn't join the forums until my second led grow.

what dose my HID grows have to do with my led test? whats their to prove in the pudding? i dont get where ur trying to get at? you want to talk about proof in the pudding find one led grow with these lights were someone get the same yield as hps? besides the owner of the company. i beat you you wont find one. their isn't one grow on here that show a 126w being equal to a 400w hps beside led girl her self.
 
re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

irishboy said:
when i grew with HID i never went on the forums, the only reason why i started on the forms was because of leds. thats why my first led grow i ever did isn't on the forms because i wasn't posting back then. i did join the forums until my second led grow.

what dose my HID grows have to do with my led test? whats their to prove in the pudding? i dont get where ur trying to get at?
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Yeah, I recently just came to forums to actually check out a friends LED grow and caught the fever...

Well, the only reason why I ask about your HID grows. Is because the 1g/watt mark is obtainable but like I stated before shits gotta be dialed in. But you have stated many times that you have reached the 1g/watt. Now, I believe you and all, it's just we havent seen you fire it up and it's been nice and cool and winter time. And you've been complaining about yield since plants have dried. So I am kinda curious why you havent lit up the hid like you keep saying you're going to. And why not run a 600w hps to test the 600w LED against. I'm sure you would certainly rather have too much on your hands as opposed to too little in the end result next time. It seems like you have the room, especially if you're talkin about once you find a viable led that does live up to their claims then you'll be switching your entire room that companies LED's.
 
re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

wizewizo said:
Yeah, I recently just came to forums to actually check out a friends LED grow and caught the fever...

Well, the only reason why I ask about your HID grows. Is because the 1g/watt mark is obtainable but like I stated before shits gotta be dialed in. But you have stated many times that you have reached the 1g/watt. Now, I believe you and all, it's just we havent seen you fire it up and it's been nice and cool and winter time. And you've been complaining about yield since plants have dried. So I am kinda curious why you havent lit up the hid like you keep saying you're going to. And why not run a 600w hps to test the 600w LED against. I'm sure you would certainly rather have too much on your hands as opposed to too little in the end result next time. It seems like you have the room, especially if you're talkin about once you find a viable led that does live up to their claims then you'll be switching your entire room that companies LED's.
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yes i am upset that i waisted my cool winter on leds and not my hps, because in the summer time it get real hot with HID. but the reason why i dont want to do a side by side like that is like i said before i will never do a side x side again, its a big pain in the ass to keep things fair, plus i dont want to run 1200w's and pay the power bill on that. i just dont see the need to do a 1200w side x side with 3 plants on each side to make my 6 plants. kinda over kill on the power.
i am not complaining on my yield because it was so low, it the fact that we have all been lied to. it sucks when your told you'll match a 400w hps or 600w hps and you dont even come close. its the lies that make me mad. you will see when you get ur 205w. i made a deal i would do a straight up grow with the 600w led light and thats what i am going to do. i dont need to grow with more then 600w to get what i need. no reason to pay for 1200w of power to do another test with 3 plants.
 
re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

irishboy said:
yes i am upset that i waisted my cool winter on leds and not my hps, because in the summer time it get real hot with HID. but the reason why i dont want to do a side by side like that is like i said before i will never do a side x side again, its a big pain in the ass to keep things fair, plus i dont want to run 1200w's and pay the power bill on that. i just dont see the need to do a 1200w side x side with 3 plants on each side to make my 6 plants. kinda over kill on the power.
i am not complaining on my yield because it was so low, it the fact that we have all been lied to. it sucks when your told you'll match a 400w hps or 600w hps and you dont even come close. its the lies that make me mad. you will see when you get ur 205w. i made a deal i would do a straight up grow with the 600w led light and thats what i am going to do. i dont need to grow with more then 600w to get what i need. no reason to pay for 1200w of power to do another test with 3 plants.
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Hmm, completely see your point in not wanting to pay for 1200w in power as I currently run a few hundred watts more than that to light my garden. However, is 600w all the amount of watts that you used for your grow room before that you described swapping over completely to LED's?

If I can achieve 200+g grams with my 205w I willl be extremely happy. I grow in a very similar aero set up to LEDgirl and have a very controlled enviroment so I feel that I will do a wonderful job at pushing this light to it's limits. I have never hit the 1g/watt mark using my 400w's the closet I've gotten was .85g/watt which was 340g. So if her claims of 1.5g/watt are achiveable (which I am crossin my fingers and toes they are) then I should be able to pull roughly the same yield with my 400w HPS with half the watt's and eliminating the heat as a factor. And truthfully I would be pretty stoked with 1g/watt with the 2 205w's that I plan on running over my 42"x24" botanicare aero tray. That would keep me more that satisfied with 2 trays set up, and going from 1600w down to 800w....
 
re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

wizewizo said:
Hmm, completely see your point in not wanting to pay for 1200w in power as I currently run a few hundred watts more than that to light my garden. However, is 600w all the amount of watts that you used for your grow room before that you described swapping over completely to LED's?

If I can achieve 200+g grams with my 205w I willl be extremely happy. I grow in a very similar aero set up to LEDgirl and have a very controlled enviroment so I feel that I will do a wonderful job at pushing this light to it's limits. I have never hit the 1g/watt mark using my 400w's the closet I've gotten was .85g/watt which was 340g. So if her claims of 1.5g/watt are achiveable (which I am crossin my fingers and toes they are) then I should be able to pull roughly the same yield with my 400w HPS with half the watt's and eliminating the heat as a factor. And truthfully I would be pretty stoked with 1g/watt with the 2 205w's that I plan on running over my 42"x24" botanicare aero tray. That would keep me more that satisfied with 2 trays set up, and going from 1600w down to 800w....
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no i use to use a 1000w hps, but found it to be over kill for what i needed. cost too much on power and to run those high powered vent fans. a 600w hps is perfect for what i need. so if i can match or beat a 600w hps with my 600w led i would be very happy.
bro i wish you the best of luck on ur grow, and i do believe you can hit 1g per watt with these leds if you have ur stuff dialed in. all i am saying is dont expect these lights to work as claimed meaning to match a 600w hps with 205w of leds, it wont happen from all the grows i have seen. all i am saying is that these leds haven't worked as claimed expect for led girl and her friend, witch auto make me think their is something funny about that. i hope leds do prove them selfs because i would love to run less watts. but the thing is i have seen almost every led grow and haven't seen her light yield as claimed.
 
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I think I've read someone on 420 here state that they arent listening to the manufacturers claims, they are just doing their own grow and getting their own results. I think I am kinda in that boat. And I am pretty sure that you've read that the ratings are based off a par rating. But yeah, it seems to me that 1g/watt is achieveable with her light especially with the new ratio's. And yes I agree that the first round of lights might not have been perfect for flowering but I'll damn'd if they dont veg the shit outta plants, which is why I picked up a 1st gen 126w as well. As growers we've been using separate lights for veg and flowering all along so to me its no biggie to thing that one led with a different amount of color in a certain spectrum would veg or flower a plant better than another.

What kind of gpw have you been told is achieveable from Mike over at growledhydro out of curiosity?
 
re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

wizewizo said:
I think I've read someone on 420 here state that they arent listening to the manufacturers claims, they are just doing their own grow and getting their own results. I think I am kinda in that boat. And I am pretty sure that you've read that the ratings are based off a par rating. But yeah, it seems to me that 1g/watt is achieveable with her light especially with the new ratio's. And yes I agree that the first round of lights might not have been perfect for flowering but I'll damn'd if they dont veg the shit outta plants, which is why I picked up a 1st gen 126w as well. As growers we've been using separate lights for veg and flowering all along so to me its no biggie to thing that one led with a different amount of color in a certain spectrum would veg or flower a plant better than another.

What kind of gpw have you been told is achieveable from Mike over at growledhydro out of curiosity?
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i never got a g/w from mike. he just said it will match a 600w hps or do better. thats why i give him props because he isn't making crazy claims like others. 300w of leds will match a 100w hps, or 600w of leds will equal 2000w of hps. those are crazy claims to make right their, and thats what pisses me off.
bro if you have been around the led forums as long as me, you would understand where i am coming from. $hit i was their when the first light led girl sold on the forums. so i know all the crazy lies that were made. i agree with just growing and doing ur thing and not worrying about the claims. but i dont want to keep the truth a secret so when a newbie see these claims they think their true. everyone has the right to see the truth and know what their spending their money on. if you search the web some more you will see the truth. do your homework and it will pay off.
 
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Irish, you did alot to boost that witch's sales.And really, in the end she couldnt care less...sounds like she was pissed because you didnt buy anymore at full price.Sad...but typical.I've read a few posts from this growledhydro person, and their people skills seem alot sharper than Cammies- and alot less hype.Iwould just tell people that you got rid of the 126 because it was crowding your grow with useless light.You're a hell of alot nicer than I am man.
 
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don't really think 300g is an unreasonable estimate for a 600. a lb for a 600w is damn good almost as efficient in grams/watt as LED; so if you can regularly grow over a pound with a 600w hps why waste any time with LEDs?

..except temps of course
 
re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

irishboy said:
i never got a g/w from mike. he just said it will match a 600w hps or do better. thats why i give him props because he isn't making crazy claims like others. 300w of leds will match a 100w hps, or 600w of leds will equal 2000w of hps. those are crazy claims to make right their, and thats what pisses me off.
bro if you have been around the led forums as long as me, you would understand where i am coming from. $hit i was their when the first light led girl sold on the forums. so i know all the crazy lies that were made. i agree with just growing and doing ur thing and not worrying about the claims. but i dont want to keep the truth a secret so when a newbie see these claims they think their true. everyone has the right to see the truth and know what their spending their money on.
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It appears to me that Mike, more or less is stating a 1g/watt ratio or close to that, since you've stated that the 600w LED with match a 600w HPS. In that right, I dont understand how his light's could be any better than HGL's. Now I understand about claims from manufacturer, as I remember claims of an ak-47 plant that weighed in at a LB with just 2 126w units over it, and gradually watch the claims get lower and lower and more realistic. Yes, it's shady, but it's sales! Sales are without a doubt one of the most cut throat sides of business to be involved with. Every salesman/woman I've ever come across is always claiming their product to be the absolute best and far superior to their competitors. It happens everywhere, and in all different forms of business.

So you're absolutely right, do your own market research, and formulate your own opinion and decide for yourself which is the best option for you as a consumer regardless of whether you are purchasing a new Laptop or a LED grow light. You have to remember that most all companies claim to make the best and their respective product at the best prices available to their consumers. It's really ultimately up to us to decide which company to go with as they all are makin the same exact claims!
 
re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

bluuurghhh said:
I've read a few posts from this growledhydro person, and their people skills seem alot sharper than Cammies- and alot less hype.I would just tell people that you got rid of the 126 because it was crowding your grow with useless light.
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Yes, anyone can appear cordial for a few posts while no one is trashing them. As I remember when HGL first came on the scene and everyone was worshiping the ground their lights were above. Now, before the results were even in, everyone jumped on the hate wagon and started bashing the company (her). I admit there were several times myself where I thought she would have been much better off just keeping quiet and not feeding into the drama, but she was very passionate about her light and stood up and fought the people speaking against her. I admire that in her, she has a lot of fight, thats for sure.

Now I would be really interested to see how Mike carries himself, if people started bashing him and his light before results were even in!?
 
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Irish, Have you set up your 600W led grow yet?
 
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Man I don't know what to say. A for effort for sure. I also got rid of my HGL lights. When I harvested it was clear that the light wasn't able to grow secondary buds worth a damn. I have penny sized buds from the middle of my plant down. Very sad. The worst was the one I kept at her recommended height. That one started off very fat but even the middle of the main cola is light starved. I cant wait to see what the new light does for you.

Its funny how she calls everyone out as soon as a different opinion then hers is stated. She called Ed Rosenthal inexperienced because he got crap results. What a sad excuse.
 
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You guy's should of seen what she posted in the mod's tread over at I see mag... The one that's doing the sour60. She bashed him just as bad as she did you Irish....But of course she deleted all of it...and she posted it !!!... LOL. I could care a less if she had the best LED's on the market.. Her attitude is piss pore IMO and that company would never get one cent of my hard earned money.. I can get a much better light on the bay for the same price she charges..(That is if I wanted one of those cheep china LED toys).. I feel sorry for the people over there that are getting the free lights to test. If they tell the truth at all they will get bashed.. It doesn't take a genius to see what she is doing. I'm sure those testers can read..LOL..

Irish keep on truckin bro she's not worth it......
 
re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

Hay BUX..... What part of the mitten are you from ?... Maybe we can indulge in some of my PAD stuff...:bong:
 
re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

wizewizo said:
Yes, anyone can appear cordial for a few posts while no one is trashing them. As I remember when HGL first came on the scene and everyone was worshiping the ground their lights were above. Now, before the results were even in, everyone jumped on the hate wagon and started bashing the company (her). I admit there were several times myself where I thought she would have been much better off just keeping quiet and not feeding into the drama, but she was very passionate about her light and stood up and fought the people speaking against her. I admire that in her, she has a lot of fight, thats for sure.

Now I would be really interested to see how Mike carries himself, if people started bashing him and his light before results were even in!?
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bro all i will say is once you use her lights for your self and see what they can do then talk to me. look around bro everyone is getting shitty results from her lights, look around my friend.
 
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