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Landrace Genetics 101
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Zembretti
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Amongst some that I am yet to try, I have a few beans of New Caledonian landrace, the writeup sounded good, regulars. But as I only grow once a year outside with limited space, I don't get an opportunity to go wild and cover a lot of varieties unfortunately, can always hope for a law change I guess.
I grew it in British Columbia a few years ago, I was a very long flowering plant that I had to pull early (mid October) because of extreme cold here (50 degrees North). It was a lanky, willowy kind of plant, and it had a nice up high if I remember correctly, but not so strong. I wish it had had a chance to grow longer and show its full potential, I'm sure people who live in lower latitudes will have much more sucess than me and I bet the mature buds will be a great high. My research into New Caledonia cannabis suggests its origin was actually from Mexican seeds hippies took there in the 60s. So it could be an incredible sativa for anyone growing with a longer season that goes into November. I'm going to be jealous of that smoke if you get it to finish!Amongst some that I am yet to try, I have a few beans of New Caledonian landrace, the writeup sounded good, regulars. But as I only grow once a year outside with limited space, I don't get an opportunity to go wild and cover a lot of varieties unfortunately, can always hope for a law change I guess.
Thanks @Zembretti that's interesting about its potential if harvested later. Here in the southern hemisphere I have managed to delay harvest well into May (or November in northern hemisphere terms) but that gets a bit dependent on how the weather is performing. Interesting that there may be a Mexican link, those bloody hippies eh.
All feminized? No genetic anything that way.
That I don't know.
a lot of red tape dealing with them I thought...having to send emails and what not...don't recall payment options...I like simple, and actually do a lot of swapping these days...cheerz... 
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It is so that big seed banks can't snatch the genetics. They don't exist anywhere else and it's common knowledge that seedbanks steal genetics and label them as their own... also, you get almost as many regulars with every order free....just not the ones that took over 25 year's of breeding but still pure landrace and heirloom.
Would you work for decades on something and then just be ok to give it away to anyone with company? Selling your creation and hard work as their own?
That's doubtful.
Hooka lot of red tape dealing with them I thought...having to send emails and what not...don't recall payment options...I like simple, and actually do a lot of swapping these days...cheerz...
You send and email with your order and postage details and you get PayPal details. That's hardly red tape. The company is sitting right at the tip of Africa where things sure do work differently.
And that's why landraces will be a thing of the past and the mindless hybridization to achieve mono. Some of us want to save them. Arjan, is that you?
everybody's different, and have their opinions...I understand the difference in geography, and the challenges it presents...just not my cup of tea presently...I know YOU know the challenges of international shipping...best of luck to them...cheerz... ...h00k...
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Nice to see you again. Are you still growing Transkei?
Zembretti
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Yes, that certainly is a problem and as the guys from Strain Hunters do, they steal someone else's genetic heritage for their own greed. I contacted the Table Mountain seed owner and told him I was glad he was prederving old landrace strains and that he was doing the world a great deed. My only problem is I cannot afford to pay $25 (CDN) per seed. He told me he didn't think the premium price was unreasonable because of the circumstances surrounding each seed acquisition, and as you said Lerugged he'll throw other free seeds in as well. His seed descriptions sound amazing!
I usually grow several plants from one fem seed. I can take cuts of the confirmed genetics and each one is just as good as the last. I can keep that excellent plant for unlimited years that way. If I want a different or better pheno/cultivar, I drop another fem seed. With regular I have the full genetics, but I have to start more seeds and there's more variation in the strain - harder to find the better plant. If I wanted to breed, I'd grow regulars.
If I wanted to breed.
If I wanted to breed.
Zembretti
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Not sure I understand your point here, and I'm confused, no offence, I'm just asking for clarification here, grayeyes, that's all. Please don't hold back.
Cheers.
Zembretti
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My bad. Congrats Lerugged on your company. I wish you success my friend.
Landraces are going extinct-they won't be back. With regular seeds you can reproduce over and over. Feminized is one seed one plant-the end. There will never be a continuity.
Behold, a new Arjan.
you realize you can still breed with females by making feminized crosses or doing back crossing, right?
there's plenty of 'clone only' strains out there that still got worked into a seed line through back crossing.
or you can keep a mother around as mentioned above. clones are the same every time... there's your continuity.
there's plenty of 'clone only' strains out there that still got worked into a seed line through back crossing.
or you can keep a mother around as mentioned above. clones are the same every time... there's your continuity.