Ladies dying Please Help

[Roy Growin]

My Pen is dog, room temp milk (not expired) its at 6,1 are there any other ways of testing ph without a pen? (I Know Strips are unreliable)

So if your pen is reading very low and you are using P/Carb, your pH is likely through the roof and leaving residual salts
Flush the pot with distilled or de-ionized water then feed as normal but skip the K/Carb , it's not necessary in soil anyway
Sounds like your meter is nearly a whole point out, but now you know that you can deduce the true value
ie if you know a clock is 1 hour fast you can still tell the time

 

[SmokingWings]

For Nutes i use Biobizz, also got the Biobizz Light Mix.

The issue started with the BioBizz Light Mix. It might even say right on the bag that the Light Mix is great for starting seeds, seedlings and maybe even rooting clones. With plants that small it is easy to keep them going for awhile on whatever nutrients and minerals are dissolved in the water. Keep in mind that there is nothing in the Light Mix to feed the plants that have reached a stage after being a seedling.

If you go to the Biobizz web site you will see that the ingredients in Light Mix are two types of peat and some Perlite. There is no mention of any dirt, compost, worm castings or fertilizers. Read a bit more on their website and you will see that they say that the after a week or two it is best to transplant to one of the companies soils that are intended for plants that are past the seedling stage. After transplanting it will be time to start using a fertilizer meant for growing. Use the schedule on the Biobizz website to mix up the fertilizer.

If you want to go with a fertilizer from another company then use that company's schedule.

3 Days ago, after the flush dryed out i fed her According to Schedule and shes still Not doing better.

Just the Fish fertilizer is not enough; you will have to also use the Grow. Then when it starts to flower you will have to use the Bloom fertilizer.

Keep in mind that the damage done to the leaves is not going to fix itself. You will have to watch the new growth, which might be a week or longer, looking for signs that the plant is improving.

 

[Waywardwayne]

Yes i do, It was just 20€ tho so i doubt its Quality.

Also I looked at and bought a few pens both cheap and supposedly better and still didn’t like doing that. Calibration and ph solutions. So I bought a ro filter. It was like $150. I’d bet Ive spent that much with ph equipment and stuff. Also I use it in the humidifiers because that tap water is horrible in them. It leaves a white powdered residue on stuff after a while and I can only imagine I was breathing that. Anyway just a thought if you are going to be growing for a while.

 

[Goldjkr]

The issue started with the BioBizz Light Mix. It might even say right on the bag that the Light Mix is great for starting seeds, seedlings and maybe even rooting clones. With plants that small it is easy to keep them going for awhile on whatever nutrients and minerals are dissolved in the water. Keep in mind that there is nothing in the Light Mix to feed the plants that have reached a stage after being a seedling.

If you go to the Biobizz web site you will see that the ingredients in Light Mix are two types of peat and some Perlite. There is no mention of any dirt, compost, worm castings or fertilizers. Read a bit more on their website and you will see that they say that the after a week or two it is best to transplant to one of the companies soils that are intended for plants that are past the seedling stage. After transplanting it will be time to start using a fertilizer meant for growing. Use the schedule on the Biobizz website to mix up the fertilizer.

If you want to go with a fertilizer from another company then use that company's schedule.


Just the Fish fertilizer is not enough; you will have to also use the Grow. Then when it starts to flower you will have to use the Bloom fertilizer.

Keep in mind that the damage done to the leaves is not going to fix itself. You will have to watch the new growth, which might be a week or longer, looking for signs that the plant is improving.

First Thank u.

What i see is on The feeding Schedule of them there is a Chart for Light Mix and my friend Had 2 runs (3 Plants) in Light mix and it went great, so i thought i would switch from the All mix to the Light Mix cause the All mix also got me into problems.

He uses Nutes that are 3-4-3 for the Whole Run and it went good.

So technically the Light Mix becomes Coco after The Plant used everything up, so i got to treat it like coco?

Also just for the Record i Water every 3-4 Days With 1-1,2L of Nuted Water, when the soil is Dry and the Pot Light of course.

i Really Cant transplant them anymore, Theyre too big and i dont got The Pots nor the money for new Soil .

 

[Goldjkr]

So if your pen is reading very low and you are using P/Carb, your pH is likely through the roof and leaving residual salts
Flush the pot with distilled or de-ionized water then feed as normal but skip the K/Carb , it's not necessary in soil anyway
Sounds like your meter is nearly a whole point out, but now you know that you can deduce the true value
ie if you know a clock is 1 hour fast you can still tell the time

Flush again? i flushed them like a week ago (6 Liters each) until the runoff was relativly clear to eye and Ph was at 6.8 according to meter.

 

[Goldjkr]

Hi guys This is a Small Update, i Watered her 3 days ago with double Nutes so i used 4ml/L of BioGrow and 1,5ml/L CalMag.
Would u guys say shes doing better?
i cant really tell, She isnt Drooping so much anymore tho.

Happy growing
Edit: The Light Intensity is at 650PPFD, The Light sits like 30cm over the Plants.
Also does anyone know why the tips of the Edges turn Red/Purple?

 

[Waywardwayne]

It honestly looks better and worse. They are greener overall and the new growth is much greener. I’d make sure you pay closest attention to the new growth not the old. The old may not recover all the way. I’d make sure humidity and temperature are as close to good as you can make it. I’ll throw some guessing out there. They seem too cold. The color looks like lockout. Ph is too high or temperature low. I don’t know man I’d love to help you.

 

[Roy Growin]

Yes, I'd agree it looks a bit better, but as @Waywardwayne says it's still not quite happy
If it isn't cold or pH, then maybe water a little less frequently, or you could try adding a little h2O2 in the tray but don't try that unless you are confident [caveat, don't fuck your plant up cos some guy on the internet said so]

 

[Goldjkr]

It honestly looks better and worse. They are greener overall and the new growth is much greener. I’d make sure you pay closest attention to the new growth not the old. The old may not recover all the way. I’d make sure humidity and temperature are as close to good as you can make it. I’ll throw some guessing out there. They seem too cold. The color looks like lockout. Ph is too high or temperature low. I don’t know man I’d love to help you.

Thank u,
I saw that at night It was 16 Celcius is that too cold? Even if its only at night?
Ita also Not always like this Most night are between 17-18.
I saw that the plant Cant take up all the CalMag if its under 18°

The New growth Looks very Good BUT
After a New node Grows the one below turns Red/Purple

My ph should defenitly be in Range now.

Really Appreciate all the Thoughts.

Happy growing

 

[Goldjkr]

Yes, I'd agree it looks a bit better, but as @Waywardwayne says it's still not quite happy
If it isn't cold or pH, then maybe water a little less frequently, or you could try adding a little h2O2 in the tray but don't try that unless you are confident [caveat, don't fuck your plant up cos some guy on the internet said so]

I Have thought that, i definitly overwatered her When i flushed her (She was Not Fully dry) or smth

I got h2o2 at home cause i got Aquariums.
How exactly would i apply It?

Happy growing

 

[Waywardwayne]

Even only overnight I try to keep it higher than that. It’s been harder some here in Maine with winter outside. Last summers outdoor grow bled over into some colder nights and my plants mostly did ok. But they started to change just like yours looked from before.

IMG_9710.jpeg

• Waywardwayne
• Jul 30, 2024

You can see here the color, but it’s also not just cold so it may not be cold at all. You have one problem making it look like more or you have a couple problems at once. My two cents hope you are in the right direction to get these girls back in shape.

 

[Roy Growin]

I Have thought that, i definitly overwatered her When i flushed her (She was Not Fully dry) or smth

I got h2o2 at home cause i got Aquariums.
How exactly would i apply It?

Happy growing

In soil/organics you don't really want it to rinse through the soil because it can oxidize organic material [even though it would bounce back in a few days]
Dilute some H2O2 down to around 1% - I use 12% so dilute it 1:10 = 1.2%; normal grade is usually 3% so dilute 1:3
When the soil is still moist but not immediately after watering, add 1/4" to the tray only and if you timed it right, it will be soaked up
The pure O in H2O2 should perk up your leaves and improve nutrient uptake
It's something I play with all the time but rarely mention or recommend because I know it's contentious and possibly risky

 

[Goldjkr]

In soil/organics you don't really want it to rinse through the soil because it can oxidize organic material [even though it would bounce back in a few days]
Dilute some H2O2 down to around 1% - I use 12% so dilute it 1:10 = 1.2%; normal grade is usually 3% so dilute 1:3
When the soil is still moist but not immediately after watering, add 1/4" to the tray only and if you timed it right, it will be soaked up
The pure O in H2O2 should perk up your leaves and improve nutrient uptake
It's something I play with all the time but rarely mention or recommend because I know it's contentious and possibly risky

Tysm,
What happens if i fuck up the Timing?
What would u say happens if i mixed It wrong?
What about the ph of It?
Should the pots be on a lightly lifted surface or flat while It Soaking It (the tray is very high It would t reach the holes.
?

Happy growing

 

[Roy Growin]

If you fuck up the timing it won't be absorbed before it releases its Oxygen into the root zone, so slightly dry
H2O2 is pretty harmless stuff so there is a wide margin for error, don't worry too much, up to 3% is ok
Don't worry about pH either, that is only important for feeding different nutrients
All you are doing is applying Oxygen and pure H2O
Sit the pots directly into the tray while they soak it up, then raise again

 

[Goldjkr]

If you fuck up the timing it won't be absorbed before it releases its Oxygen into the root zone, so slightly dry
H2O2 is pretty harmless stuff so there is a wide margin for error, don't worry too much, up to 3% is ok
Don't worry about pH either, that is only important for feeding different nutrients
All you are doing is applying Oxygen and pure H2O
Sit the pots directly into the tray while they soak it up, then raise again

Okay sounds good,
what would u say minute wise i should wait before soaking them innit and how long should i let them soak,
cause im pretty inpatient.

Happy growing

 

[Goldjkr]

Even only overnight I try to keep it higher than that. It’s been harder some here in Maine with winter outside. Last summers outdoor grow bled over into some colder nights and my plants mostly did ok. But they started to change just like yours looked from before.

IMG_9710.jpeg

• Waywardwayne
• Jul 30, 2024

You can see here the color, but it’s also not just cold so it may not be cold at all. You have one problem making it look like more or you have a couple problems at once. My two cents hope you are in the right direction to get these girls back in shape.

Alr thank u so much,
How would u say i can Raise the temperature in that room at night without an Oil Heater or smth?
Should i Close my Window While sleeping? its 5-9° outside at night rn
Is That ok for 8-10H with the Co2 Levels or smth?

Edit: Sorry if my grammar is Busted rn had waay too much to smoke
Happy growing

 

[Roy Growin]

Okay sounds good,
what would u say minute wise i should wait before soaking them innit and how long should i let them soak,
cause im pretty inpatient.

Happy growing

The soil needs to be slightly dry to soak it up, it should soak it up in 10-15mins
Impatience and growing plants don't belong in the same sentence mate

 

[Goldjkr]

The soil needs to be slightly dry to soak it up, it should soak it up in 10-15mins
Impatience and growing plants don't belong in the same sentence mate

Alr Thank u so much

ye i know, Im Learning to Have more Patience through Growing,
Still Learning tho

 

[Waywardwayne]

Alr thank u so much,
How would u say i can Raise the temperature in that room at night without an Oil Heater or smth?
Should i Close my Window While sleeping? its 5-9° outside at night rn
Is That ok for 8-10H with the Co2 Levels or smth?

Edit: Sorry if my grammar is Busted rn had waay too much to smoke
Happy growing

Do whatever you can to make sure they stay above 21c if possible. Closing the window at night will probably help if it’s 9 outside. I’ve never heard of c02 being an issue in any way. Some people use extra c02 but the ppm c02 in the air is already enough for plants. You won’t lose any by closing the window and you may increase it. We breath out 100x the amount of c02 than the air has in it in a breath.

 

[Roy Growin]

Do whatever you can to make sure they stay above 21c if possible. Closing the window at night will probably help if it’s 9 outside. I’ve never heard of c02 being an issue in any way. Some people use extra c02 but the ppm c02 in the air is already enough for plants. You won’t lose any by closing the window and you may increase it. We breath out 100x the amount of c02 than the air has in it in a breath.

That's not quite right mate - humans only exhale the co2 breathed in, we only actually produce co2 by farting
By us stripping the oxygen from air in an enclosed space it makes the relative concentration of co2 greater inside
Given that there is 4x the amount of co2 in the atmosphere than there was 150 years ago, I'm not worried lol