Ladies dying Please Help

[Goldjkr]

Hi guys, this is my Second grow in my Self build closet.
2 Ladies both Gary Payton.
the Light is a Viparspectra P600.
For Nutes i use Biobizz, also got the Biobizz Light Mix.
Ph of my tap water is 7 and i always aim to get her to 6.3.
at Week 2 she started to yellow exactly when i Upped the Feeding to 2ml/L of the biobizz Fish mix.
when she was dryed out i panicked and flushed either one of them with 6L of Ph 7 Water, after that dryed she still has been going bad.
Allot of Purple on The Stems and Alot of Deffiencys showing up.
I flushed them cause in my Head i fucked up the PH and thats what caused The Purple Stems and all the Deffiencys.
3 Days ago, after the flush dryed out i fed her According to Schedule and shes still Not doing better.

Please let me know if u can help me somehow.
Happy growing

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Hi guys, this is my Second grow in my Self build closet.
2 Ladies both Gary Payton.
the Light is a Viparspectra P600.
For Nutes i use Biobizz, also got the Biobizz Light Mix.
Ph of my tap water is 7 and i always aim to get her to 6.3.
at Week 2 she started to yellow exactly when i Upped the Feeding to 2ml/L of the biobizz Fish mix.
when she was dryed out i panicked and flushed either one of them with 6L of Ph 7 Water, after that dryed she still has been going bad.
Allot of Purple on The Stems and Alot of Deffiencys showing up.
I flushed them cause in my Head i fucked up the PH and thats what caused The Purple Stems and all the Deffiencys.
3 Days ago, after the flush dryed out i fed her According to Schedule and shes still Not doing better.

Please let me know if u can help me somehow.
Happy growing

Hi Goldjkr
Can you post some pics? That would help a great deal for members to help diagnose the issues with you.

 

[Goldjkr]

Hi Goldjkr :0
Can you post some pics? That would help a great deal for members to help diagnose the issues with you.

Forgot to add them I edtied the Post.

 

[Waywardwayne]

What temperature is it there?

 

[Goldjkr]

What temperature is it there?

22-24 Celcius at day and 17-19 at night

 

[Roy Growin]

At a glance, your pH is too low, locking out N and P - try soaking the pot with 2ml Grow, 2ml Bloom and do not adjust pH

 

[Waywardwayne]

That’s not bad. How cold is the tap water? I only ask because she looks just like plants I’ve had that stayed out in the cold. But that was 40f-50f (4c - 10c).

Maybe the tap water has too much chemicals from water treatment. I would buy other water to use just to test if they hate the tap water. Just a shot in the dark man I don’t really know what’s wrong with your plants but you seem to have everything dialed in pretty well. Unless when you ph your pen is inaccurate or the ph drifting after you test it.

 

[Goldjkr]

At a glance, your pH is too low, locking out N and P - try soaking the pot with 2ml Grow, 2ml Bloom and do not adjust pH

Thats what i thought at first 2, thats why i flushed her to pull the Ph back up. and it seemed to help at first but got bad again pretty fast while drying out. Leaves show major signgs of calmag deffiency. The Watering after the flush i Fed her with 2ml of grow and 1,2ml of Calmag and 0,5ml of Pottasium Carbo idk 33% Phup, to adjust to it.

 

[Goldjkr]

That’s not bad. How cold is the tap water? I only ask because she looks just like plants I’ve had that stayed out in the cold. But that was 40f-50f (4c - 10c).

Maybe the tap water has too much chemicals from water treatment. I would buy other water to use just to test if they hate the tap water. Just a shot in the dark man I don’t really know what’s wrong with your plants but you seem to have everything dialed in pretty well. Unless when you ph your pen is inaccurate or the ph drifting after you test it.

last run i Had simular Problems using Aquarium water (ph 6.5) . i really doubt its the base water thats casuing this.
Also the Water in my City is Pretty damn good u can drink it from tap without any side tastes.

Ph pen Probably inaccurate, cant buy a new one tho. (no money rn)
Last Watering i eyed it cause i feared that its inaccurate, seemed fine to me. no difference tho.

Night and day temperatures dont flactuate over 8 Celcius so i guess thats fine, at lowest at night its sometimes 16 and day a max of 24 cause of winter

 

[Waywardwayne]

Some of the newest growth in some of the pictures look like they are getting much greener at the tops. I think it’s either temperature, ph or the tap water itself isn’t agreeable with the plants. I would make 1000% certain none of that is the issue before looking anywhere else personally.

 

[Roy Growin]

Thats what i thought at first 2, thats why i flushed her to pull the Ph back up. and it seemed to help at first but got bad again pretty fast while drying out. Leaves show major signgs of calmag deffiency. The Watering after the flush i Fed her with 2ml of grow and 1,2ml of Calmag and 0,5ml of Pottasium Carbo idk 33% Phup, to adjust to it.

2ml of Grow is not enough for a plant that size - back to basics with plain feed 4ml/L & CaMg

 

[Waywardwayne]

last run i Had simular Problems using Aquarium water (ph 6.5) . i really doubt its the base water thats casuing this.
Also the Water in my City is Pretty damn good u can drink it from tap without any side tastes.

Ph pen Probably inaccurate, cant buy a new one tho. (no money rn)
Last Watering i eyed it cause i feared that its inaccurate, seemed fine to me. no difference tho.

Night and day temperatures dont flactuate over 8 Celcius so i guess thats fine, at lowest at night its sometimes 16 and day a max of 24 cause of winter

Try what Roy suggested and try to come up with an accurate pen. Do you calibrate the pen with calibration solution?

 

[Goldjkr]

Some of the newest growth in some of the pictures look like they are getting much greener at the tops. I think it’s either temperature, ph or the tap water itself isn’t agreeable with the plants. I would make 1000% certain none of that is the issue before looking anywhere else personally.

Yes the Newest top nodes Arent purple anymore and shes still growing Vertical, but the Leaves are still Tossing and Turning at the tops and the Yellowing at the "outside" of the leave wont stop. (and some red)

i only got these Problems when using Nutes, kinda feel like Im Force feeding but idk cause when i water her with only tap water shes fine. They need the Nutes tho so i catn just water with plain water.

 

[Goldjkr]

Try what Roy suggested and try to come up with an accurate pen. Do you calibrate the pen with calibration solution?

Yes i do, It was just 20€ tho so i doubt its Quality.

 

[Goldjkr]

2ml of Grow is not enough for a plant that size - back to basics with plain feed 4ml/L & CaMg

I should double the feeding? Kinda scared. should i double the calmag 2 ?
I also read that biobizz nutes are kinda Weak, but i was scared to over feed

 

[Roy Growin]

You an test your pH meter in room temp milk - should read 6.5-6.8, or distilled water 7.0

*edit* No, don't double the CaMg, just feed at 4ml/L - I've run BB at 4ml/L grow and bloom with no problems

 

[Goldjkr]

You an test your pH meter in room temp milk - should read 6.5-6.8, or distilled water 7.0

*edit* No, don't double the CaMg, just feed at 4ml/L - I've run BB at 4ml/L grow and bloom with no problems

Alr, thank u so much. I will try the pH Meter test, and gonna feed her tommorow Like u Suggested.

ill be back with updates

 

[Bean Genie]

My tap water tastes fine here too but it tests at almost pH 8.0 so without adjustments, the plant locks out many things, causing a host of issues.

A $20 meter is what most of us use, there’s a significant price gap and seems either they are $20 or $200. Calibrated regularly, the $20 works fine for what we do here.

 

[Roy Growin]

My tap water tastes fine here too but it tests at almost pH 8.0 so without adjustments, the plant locks out many things, causing a host of issues.

A $20 meter is what most of us use, there’s a significant price gap and seems either they are $20 or $200. Calibrated regularly, the $20 works fine for what we do here.

I've had several pH pens off zon made by Zhang Zhou or some such, all pretty unreliable
I now use an 'Essentials' meter [£40], but I only test the mix once then use the same formula from there
Calibrate it every 6 weeks or so, but it has stayed true for at least 6 months now

 

[Goldjkr]

I've had several pH pens off zon made by Zhang Zhou or some such, all pretty unreliable
I now use an 'Essentials' meter [£40], but I only test the mix once then use the same formula from there
Calibrate it every 6 weeks or so, but it has stayed true for at least 6 months now

My Pen is dog, room temp milk (not expired) its at 6,1 are there any other ways of testing ph without a pen? (I Know Strips are unreliable)