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Rider509
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I'm so evilly happy to see you following in my unfortunate footsteps. There is no way that plant is going to stay in the confines of your dark box. Just a suggestion, not telling you what to do, LOL, but I think you should flip yesterday or last week!
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Tit harves? Can I try some too?
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Thanks Joe! I had considered using a sativa for these meds, but figured that if he was going to have an outsized reaction, sleepy was better than manic
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Ahhh but unlike you, I would not hesitate to supercrop.I'm so evilly happy to see you following in my unfortunate footsteps. There is no way that plant is going to stay in the confines of your dark box. Just a suggestion, not telling you what to do, LOL, but I think you should flip yesterday or last week!
Yeah just need the right balance by sounds of itThanks Joe! I had considered using a sativa for these meds, but figured that if he was going to have an outsized reaction, sleepy was better than manic
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Wednesday and maybe the only sunny day this week. A bit chilly (plant-wise) but I left them in the sun just to make sure they don't forget what it feels like, kinda like us!
Since the AK has gotten all the flippin' attention lately, here are two pics of Sour G on day 60. I haven't had time to mess with the ties lately because of how much time I spend each morning tip-spreading the AK, but here it is:
As it gets bigger I will have to make sure I have one branch separated to do the silver spray for seed porpoises.
The AK got its last straight veg nutes before the Open Sesame gets added, and I thought I would dial back the cal/mag+ (which is 4-0-0) to make sure there isn't too much N going into flower. Instead I added the eggshell/vinegar combo for calcium. I checked the TDS with each addition just for the sake of having a record.
Into a gallon of water (@ 175 TDS) went:
3 ml cal/mag+ (raised it to 330 TDS = 155)
1 tbs eggshell/vinegar (raised it to 435 TDS = 105)
3 tsp Grow Big (raised it to 1140 TDS = 705)
½ tsp Armor Si (raised it to 1170 TDS = 30)
4 tbs Big Bloom (raised it to 1390 TDS = 220)
pH was 6.5
So, TDS of just the Grow Big, cal/mag+, and Armor Si was 890. Those would be the nutes. By the way, I've changed from PPM to TDS for the sake of accuracy, as my meter is TDS (x500) and not PPM (x700).
When I water next, I'll add the Open Sesame before the Grow Big to see what effect it has on the TDS.
I hope you're all doing well today and survived any latest snowstorms that might have come your way in the last 24 hours!
Since the AK has gotten all the flippin' attention lately, here are two pics of Sour G on day 60. I haven't had time to mess with the ties lately because of how much time I spend each morning tip-spreading the AK, but here it is:
As it gets bigger I will have to make sure I have one branch separated to do the silver spray for seed porpoises.
The AK got its last straight veg nutes before the Open Sesame gets added, and I thought I would dial back the cal/mag+ (which is 4-0-0) to make sure there isn't too much N going into flower. Instead I added the eggshell/vinegar combo for calcium. I checked the TDS with each addition just for the sake of having a record.
Into a gallon of water (@ 175 TDS) went:
3 ml cal/mag+ (raised it to 330 TDS = 155)
1 tbs eggshell/vinegar (raised it to 435 TDS = 105)
3 tsp Grow Big (raised it to 1140 TDS = 705)
½ tsp Armor Si (raised it to 1170 TDS = 30)
4 tbs Big Bloom (raised it to 1390 TDS = 220)
pH was 6.5
So, TDS of just the Grow Big, cal/mag+, and Armor Si was 890. Those would be the nutes. By the way, I've changed from PPM to TDS for the sake of accuracy, as my meter is TDS (x500) and not PPM (x700).
When I water next, I'll add the Open Sesame before the Grow Big to see what effect it has on the TDS.
I hope you're all doing well today and survived any latest snowstorms that might have come your way in the last 24 hours!
Hey shed nice update buddy hope the week stays warm And sunny well at least what’s left of it
Healthy looking girls buddy
Healthy looking girls buddy
Nice update there shed! I often type ppm when my meter is TDS (500 scale also) I suppose I should be a tad more clear on that.... Well just wanted to pop by and see what's crack a lackin. The sour g looks super lush! Since yours is far more mobile I would maybe suggest a lower arm to pollinate. I know the goal is an even canopy, but finding an out lying low or isolated branch helps from having to worry about unintentionally spraying an undesirded location (they say CS isn't the best for smoking, and you can be sure you don't end up reversing another part of the plant on accident).
I hope the tip spreading and super crop keeps them contained! My scraggly ass IVY is going beast mode in stretch... all I can say is thank God I have more than 44". But I have no doubt in your torture skills my good sir.
Also I appreciate the link there. Idk wtf a turkey bag is, well I guess I do, but I'll see if I can grab one today. You know how the wife is if she can smell anything herb scented
I hope the tip spreading and super crop keeps them contained! My scraggly ass IVY is going beast mode in stretch... all I can say is thank God I have more than 44". But I have no doubt in your torture skills my good sir.
Also I appreciate the link there. Idk wtf a turkey bag is, well I guess I do, but I'll see if I can grab one today. You know how the wife is if she can smell anything herb scented
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Thanks Them! If I keep the Sour G in the same kind of shape it is now I think I know which branch I'd spray, as long as I can maintain this shape as it grows. I'm not overly concerned about the evenness of the canopy on the rest of the photos (SG, GL, AK clones) as they'll be almost entirely outdoor grown once the winter rains are over (and the vernal equinox next week). Spread will matter more than level. The AK needed to be level due to the winter sun/LED/forced flower aspect.
My torture skills will be tested if the AK stretches like Ivy, but it's not listed as a tall plant from seed (32"). From a monstercrop...who knows! Guess we'll find out soon enough
, but I've been bending every day.In terms of making oil, I don't know of anything that will make the entire process smell-proof. Even OldBear's method is going to produce that telltale odor through the small hole in the foil. And like I said, I can't reconcile his method with every other method of infusing oil. Wait until your wife has a head cold?
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What Shed Said
On the nute topic in my earlier post...I was reading DobeWan's post in MadDab's thread:
All Aboard - Dabber Blooms Buds In The Tub Of Love
and thought I'd see what would happen if I converted my nutes to milliliters and multiplied them out. Here's what I got:
3 ml cal/mag+ = 12-0-0
14.79 ml Grow Big = 88.75-59.2-59.2
2.5 ml Armor Si = 0-0-10
Total that up and you get 100.75-59.2-69.2 or 2-1.2-1.3
It's not that far off the 2-1-1 ratio I read is good for veg.
Since I'll be flipping in a week, how long is the transition after flip to flower nutes only? I'll be ramping up the Tiger Bloom and lowering the Grow Big, but when is that change completed?
Rider509
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That's my goal and the reason for experimenting with pressure decarbing. If you let your flowers dry completely you can decarb in sealed canning jars with no smell. Just open the jars outside after they've cooled down to let them air out. But then you still have the smell while you let the solvent evaporate.
I want to make the whole process completely odor-free.
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You do have a host of equipment sitting around (or on order) that most people don't! And I'm not sure how you get to completely dry without a dehydrator, which will produce a smell.
Me I start my plants in flower,, I start a Full dose flower fertilizer at the flip. And always up your cal/mag double/ triple at transition, and acouple weeks into when they are doing the stretch. Growing kids need strong bones.
GL and Keepem Green
GL and Keepem Green
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Thanks Norcal! Bumping up the cal/mag would add more nitrogen as well, so I could probably back off the Grow Big and let the cal/mag+ make up some of that difference during the transition.
Derbybud
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I would not lower the big grow much until stretch is over. The plants still need quite a bit of nitrogen to produce bud sites during stretch. After stretch discontinue using it.
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Oh ok. Thanks Derby
. The Open Sesame is 5-45-19 (powder, making life a bit more difficult!), the Tiger Bloom is 2-8-4, and the cal/mag+ is 4-0-0. I'll have to see what each adds to the TDS and see how much Grow Big I would need. Grow Big is 6-4-4 for reference.
Rider509
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You'd only have to completely dry if you want to decarb in sealed mason jars due to the 1600:1 expansion of water to steam, otherwise there will be rupture of the mason jar. That suggestion was for those that want to avoid the baked flower smell that'll cause problems at home and with the neighbors. I'd imagine that most of us have charcoal canisters extracting the drying room to minimize smell just like we do our grow spaces. It's the oven decarb that stinks up a storm.
well any handling in a kitchen should stink it up because you always need to decarb ... even when drenched in butter she should stink up the neighbourhood
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