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I'm with @Preston9mm on his theroy that auto's do what they want and the tap root has little to do with it. Some take their sweet ass time starting to flower and slow to finish. I've had a couple that I couldn't get many Amber trichs. I've only seen this with auto's, never with photos
My best guess about the autos & roots hitting bottom. It's a stress thing. I've seen weaker auto genetics that were "stressed" into flower. If roots bottom out, it may stress a plant enough to make it flower. Maybe?

But, more and more I'm finding really good genetics in these autos. There are some resilient little strains out now, breaking stereotypes.
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I also don't think ( at least for me ) I'd need anything bigger than a 5 gallon pot for autos. I've grown maybe a dozen autos and most were nowhere near root bound. Honestly a think 3's are about right for me with auto's. Here's one in a 3 that did well
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I also don't think ( at least for me ) I'd need anything bigger than a 5 gallon pot for autos. I've grown maybe a dozen autos and most were nowhere near root bound. Honestly a think 3's are about right for me with auto's. Here's one in a 3 that did well
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It’s not getting rootbound in your smart pot because it’s not supposed to. The smart pot air prunes the roots, which I believe acts like topping a plant. That’s the way I understand it at least. I agree about your 3 gallon size though. In my experience, which is right in line with yours it sounds like) smaller containers flower faster than larger. I’ve got three HubbaBubbaSmelloScopes in my tent from Mephisto. The two that I did in three gallons are done and the five gallon has about another week. Little experiment I tried this go around.

Edit: I should add that the one in five gallon grew taller and as a result I snapped her neck a couple times to keep her out of the lights. I’m certain that adds time as well.
 
Happy Saturday all! Started raining here around 6:00 last night and kept it up until around 10 this morning o_O. Starting early this year and I hope some of it reached the places we store water. Here it mostly runs off into ocean.

I jarred up a couple of short branches of the AK-47 1.1.1.1 and it settled at 73%. Back on the drying strings they went. Maybe with the rain gone it will dry out a bit so I can cut them down and jar them with the dehumidifier. Oh well...the longer the dry the less the chlorophyll.

Oh, the sun just came out...that's nice!

It was time to plant the AK-47 cutting that rooted in the cloninator. I have no idea why one would root and the others don't even show root bumps!

Here was the cloninator this morning:

Here is the AK with the fishbone roots:

Some soil, then the cutting:

Then the rest of the soil, pack it down gently, and watered with water from the bucket. I get it really soaked since they are water roots. Grow baby grow! If it does, it will be AK-47 1.1.1.1.1.1 o_O:

I cut a stem off the Sour G and put that into its spot in the cloninator, and labeled it such.

One last pic today...the Peyote Critical tap root is on a mission. Unfortunately, it's out of room so I suggest it put out other roots instead. It's not like it can grow south forever!

That's what I've got today! Let's see what you've been up to...

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Hey Shed, I gave that article you posted for me about preharvest flushing and I’m sold brother. Domo arigato Mr. Roboto!
I am curious about something I’ve always been told and believed to be true. That is about the ash of burned cannabis in your bowl. I’ve always been told that if it turns white it has been flushed well. Do you fine folks have a better explanation for why this happens sometimes with the ash and sometimes not? I vape mostly these days anyhow due to coughing lol. If nutrients are ideally left in the plants, I must believe that the quality of the “ash” and smoothness of the toke lies in the dry and cure.
Glad you're passing that flushing info around. The anti-flush army is spreading to increase yields across the land!

I had read that about ash color and I don't get it. My logs burn with white ash too. I assume it's related to how dry it is but I have no idea.
I'm with @Preston9mm on his theroy that auto's do what they want and the tap root has little to do with it. Some take their sweet ass time starting to flower and slow to finish. I've had a couple that I couldn't get many Amber trichs. I've only seen this with auto's, never with photos
My best guess about the autos & roots hitting bottom. It's a stress thing. I've seen weaker auto genetics that were "stressed" into flower. If roots bottom out, it may stress a plant enough to make it flower. Maybe?
But, more and more I'm finding really good genetics in these autos. There are some resilient little strains out now, breaking stereotypes.
I also don't think ( at least for me ) I'd need anything bigger than a 5 gallon pot for autos. I've grown maybe a dozen autos and most were nowhere near root bound. Honestly a think 3's are about right for me with auto's. Here's one in a 3 that did well
Totally agree with the smaller pots for autos.
It’s not getting rootbound in your smart pot because it’s not supposed to. The smart pot air prunes the roots, which I believe acts like topping a plant. That’s the way I understand it at least. I agree about your 3 gallon size though. In my experience, which is right in line with yours it sounds like) smaller containers flower faster than larger. I’ve got three HubbaBubbaSmelloScopes in my tent from Mephisto. The two that I did in three gallons are done and the five gallon has about another week. Little experiment I tried this go around.
Edit: I should add that the one in five gallon grew taller and as a result I snapped her neck a couple times to keep her out of the lights. I’m certain that adds time as well.
I think that early auto strains were less stable, but even now, stress will send an auto into early flower (mine were heat stressed). Without stress, it is whenever the plant feels like it's mature enough to propagate. Fast strains will do that earlier obviously, but some of the Brooklyns went over 110 days (Preston :)). Mine was down in the early 70s outside.

Whether an auto will get rootbound will depend completely on how old it is when it goes into flower. If you have a plant that flowers at 50 days it could have used a bigger pot than one that flowered at 30 days. And felt pot plants may not get root "bound" because the roots don't ever circle the pot, but they do get so dense that the plant suffers from a lack of soil and a constant need to water.

HubbaBubbaSmelloScopes? Really? :eek:
 
Drive by.. Hey Shed I have no idea why only one rooted,, but just my 2 cents,,, next go let them get abit more root before the transplant,, and never put your cuts into dry dirt. Prewet it with lukewarm water and put a hole in the wet soils,, sprinkle with whatever myckos your using in the hole then put them in there nd back fill.. Those small roots are kind of fragile,,, and coming in contact with dry soil,,, 'may' hurt them... Those others will probaly root soon. No talus' yet? Talus being the root bumps you see before the roots show?

GL and Keepem Green
 
Drive by.. Hey Shed I have no idea why only one rooted,, but just my 2 cents,,, next go let them get abit more root before the transplant,, and never put your cuts into dry dirt. Prewet it with lukewarm water and put a hole in the wet soils,, sprinkle with whatever myckos your using in the hole then put them in there nd back fill.. Those small roots are kind of fragile,,, and coming in contact with dry soil,,, 'may' hurt them... Those others will probaly root soon. No talus' yet? Talus being the root bumps you see before the roots show?

GL and Keepem Green
Now you tell me! Given how fluffy the ProMix is it I hope they survived okay :rolleyes:. The HP has mykos in it according to the bag and I forgot to add more this time. Next watering I'll add Great White. Diluted flower nutes would be next, yes?

No talus on any of the other stems yet. They look just like when I cut them and put them in.
 
She should be fine,, and if you are seeing more roots,,, then she is fine.. I'm just saying what I do? I like afew more roots at transplant. Are you using straight promix? If so,, I'd use some really weak ass grow ferts on her. She should be fine for a week or so without any. But if you do use any,, use like a 20% strength mix? Least for the first week or so.
 
Happy Saturday all! Started raining here around 6:00 last night and kept it up until around 10 this morning o_O. Starting early this year and I hope some of it reached the places we store water. Here it mostly runs off into ocean.

I jarred up a couple of short branches of the AK-47 1.1.1.1 and it settled at 73%. Back on the drying strings they went. Maybe with the rain gone it will dry out a bit so I can cut them down and jar them with the dehumidifier. Oh well...the longer the dry the less the chlorophyll.

Oh, the sun just came out...that's nice!

It was time to plant the AK-47 cutting that rooted in the cloninator. I have no idea why one would root and the others don't even show root bumps!

Here was the cloninator this morning:

Here is the AK with the fishbone roots:

Some soil, then the cutting:

Then the rest of the soil, pack it down gently, and watered with water from the bucket. I get it really soaked since they are water roots. Grow baby grow! If it does, it will be AK-47 1.1.1.1.1.1 o_O:

I cut a stem off the Sour G and put that into its spot in the cloninator, and labeled it such.

One last pic today...the Peyote Critical tap root is on a mission. Unfortunately, it's out of room so I suggest it put out other roots instead. It's not like it can grow south forever!

That's what I've got today! Let's see what you've been up to...

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Glad you're passing that flushing info around. The anti-flush army is spreading to increase yields across the land!

I had read that about ash color and I don't get it. My logs burn with white ash too. I assume it's related to how dry it is but I have no idea.





I think that early auto strains were less stable, but even now, stress will send an auto into early flower (mine were heat stressed). Without stress, it is whenever the plant feels like it's mature enough to propagate. Fast strains will do that earlier obviously, but some of the Brooklyns went over 110 days (Preston :)). Mine was down in the early 70s outside.

Whether an auto will get rootbound will depend completely on how old it is when it goes into flower. If you have a plant that flowers at 50 days it could have used a bigger pot than one that flowered at 30 days. And felt pot plants may not get root "bound" because the roots don't ever circle the pot, but they do get so dense that the plant suffers from a lack of soil and a constant need to water.

HubbaBubbaSmelloScopes? Really? :eek:
Hey like that you put holes in dudes of plastic cups fit better aeriation nice do you notice a difference by chance bud
 
Hey Shed! Babies are looking great and glad One clone came out so far! Fingers crossed for the rest! Just finished my harvest phew ! Time for a long joint! :passitleft:
As for input on the auto pot size.
I have heard optimal size is 3 to 5G but people range from 3 to 7Gal depending on the grow room size and personal preference I’m guessing. I used 5Gal and the 2 widows I chopped filled out those pots after 76days. This is why I uppotted my EM1 today! Her root ball was solid and the Transplant went smoothly!

For all my future autos I plan on sticking with 5Gal. I think 7Gal is not needed and if you choose to go 3 then you may just sacrifice total yield but that’s just me guessing! lol

Hope your having a great evening!
 
Loving the fishbone roots.
:thumb: I hope!
She should be fine,, and if you are seeing more roots,,, then she is fine.. I'm just saying what I do? I like afew more roots at transplant. Are you using straight promix? If so,, I'd use some really weak ass grow ferts on her. She should be fine for a week or so without any. But if you do use any,, use like a 20% strength mix? Least for the first week or so.
TIme will tell. I'll save out some of what I've been feeding the AK and Sour G clones and dilute it down for the AK cutting and the Blue Treacle 2. It could probably use something besides distilled water soon. Thanks Norcali!
Hey like that you put holes in dudes of plastic cups fit better aeriation nice do you notice a difference by chance bud
I always have cut holes in the bottoms so I can't say I know any different. Having those holes lets me know I've got good drainage and allows me to bottom-water if the roots need it.
Hey Shed! Babies are looking great and glad One clone came out so far! Fingers crossed for the rest! Just finished my harvest phew ! Time for a long joint!
As for input on the auto pot size.
I have heard optimal size is 3 to 5G but people range from 3 to 7Gal depending on the grow room size and personal preference I’m guessing. I used 5Gal and the 2 widows I chopped filled out those pots after 76days. This is why I uppotted my EM1 today! Her root ball was solid and the Transplant went smoothly!
For all my future autos I plan on sticking with 5Gal. I think 7Gal is not needed and if you choose to go 3 then you may just sacrifice total yield but that’s just me guessing! lol
Hope your having a great evening!
Congrats on those great harvests Dutch! People...anyone who hasn't seen the beauties Dutchman is growing in his first time out go check out his journal!
 
:thumb: Congrats on those great harvests Dutch! People...anyone who hasn't seen the beauties Dutchman is growing in his first time out go check out his journal!


Thanks a bunch Shed! I’m really excited to see what these Early Miss can pull in! Excited to finally see them jump into flowering too!

Green days my friend !
 
Here's my take on it. Auto-flower is more touchy, so you have to pay closer attention to what you're doing. The only thing that matters when transplanting is that root development is enough that you don't break too many during extraction from the pot and you don't let them crazy circle. Err on the side of circle. Them circling is no big deal, run a knife down the sides in 5 or 6 places and new growth will emit in a day. Letting them dry out will make extraction easier, less risk. In the new pot, fill to desired level and slowly pour correct Ph water through to hydro-settle the dirt. You don't want run-off, that's how slow to soak it. For auto flower I'd let it be a little damper to aid quicker adaptation, for soil dryer to make them search more. Use the old pot as a mold for the hole you'll put the plant and use it's soil height to match the new pot. If there's a saucer built into the bottom remove it or account for the added height. Tamp moderately and add soil if needed. This is important, the plug will match the hole and be tamped so there's no air pockets or the like. Water just the old dirt a little as it's dry. Simple as that. If done right, the plant will never know it, never skip a beat. The soil is the engine, too small a pot a restrictor plate.

All in my experience, YMMV.
 
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