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[InTheShed]

Also, I've posted this link before regarding other stats on it, but they do mention saturation in one of their charts:

Make Cannabis Infused Oil (3 Ways!)

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"We were able to get up to 700mg in an ounce of oil out of a total of 800mg (4gm) of flower material. That was the highest saturation point for this particular strain of flower in one ounce of oil (though you could get higher using more potent flower, concentrate or kief)."

I use the shake and other small stuff in my first pass of infusing. Then I strain and refrigerate the oil. Next time, I use that same oil with some nice buds off of any plant that has impressed me (I don't know the "real" THC content of my strains). I infuse those buds in and then use the resulting oil.
Seems to work pretty well for my gummies!

@Derbybud accidentally used a similar method (but re-running the same mash) and ended up with rocket fuel!

His original description is here, but here is the text:
"I know it's been awhile since I posted on here but I needed to take time to tell ya about my butter. I've been real busy lately and started some butter about 7-8 week's ago. Using ghee and a but load of kush bomb trim I started the old MB2 and let it run for 6 hours at 160f. When I got home that night my wife had put it in the mud room frig already. The next day when she got home she took it out and ran it for 2 hours at 160f thinking I would be home shortly and we could strain and put it in containers. Well I got home after 10 and saw it sitting on the counter not running and put it back in the frig. It sat in the frig for over 3 more weeks as I got so busy and forgot about it. We finally remembered and took it out and ran it again for 4 hours then strained it. Well my wife made cookies with it over a week ago and I thought I would have a few before bed and she had one also. Now I'm not a season veteran like lopin as far as how much intake for a good buzz and some good sleep but man is this shit strong. I'm talking about cob strong with not being able to sleep from hallucinating. Didn't sleep but maybe an hour and was still messed up at work for half the day. Wife was the same way. So I didn't dare try just one the next night knowing how bad I needed sleep and was afraid of what even one might do to me. Next night I had 1 and slept pretty good but was still messed up in the morning. Next night took it early hoping for a better result in the morning. Got so messed up in the head that I couldn't do anything I needed to get done that night and played hell trying to get to sleep. So now I have half a batch of cookies and 5 sticks of some serious stoner butter to get rid of. I'm sure I can get rid of everything but man I never thought this would happen. Just trying to figure if it was the extended time in between running the MB2 or something else that cause the drastic change in the butter? WOW just WOW"

He later summarized what he would do in the future here:
"If I was looking at going to the moon in 3 week's I would run 6 hours @ 160f, cool a min of 12 hours in the frig, run again for 2 hours @ 160f, cool for a week in the frig, run 2 hour sessions each week and before I would strain.
My problem was my wife and I watch IT for the first time and I was hallucinating with that weird ass clown Pennywise in my head all night long. Waking the next morning and going to work still to buzzed to be productive till close to noon. Hell I don't even remember if it help with my pain or not."

the only appreciable difference i've noted is whether i've done a single or double infusion process. i do mine with an IP so it lends itself to it.

I certainly hope a double infusion makes a difference!

 

[Derbybud]

This is the absolute truth. I use this method all my runs now but use much less cannabis because of the end product. A week between runs at a minimum. And at least 2 runs.

 

[InTheShed]

This is the absolute truth. I use this method all my runs now but use much less cannabis because of the end product. A week between runs at a minimum. And at least 2 runs.

Thanks Derby! A pioneer in rocket fuel...

 

[Derbybud]

Sue is the one who named it after running a few batches.

 

[Stunger]

That there is a limit to how strong an infusion can get/how much weed can be infused in a certain amount of carrier oil is true, but do we actually know what/where that limit is?

I have done multiple re-infusions with the same amount of carrier oil, and have yet to see it become "saturated". Then again, I don't like mine to be too strong!

It would be interesting to know where that point of saturation is when no more infusing is possible, like when infusing buds into oil do we actually encounter that point or perhaps as long as there is enough oil to cover the herb then it's saturation point is never reached, I don't know, but it would be good to know. My guess for 2 cents is that how effectively the herb is decarbed or not may make a bigger point of difference with some preparations. Lately I have been enjoying picking a small decarbed bud and chewing it with half a teaspoon or less of olive oil or coconut oil, there is no infusing going on, but I'm hoping for some assistance in the transporting of the cannabinoids into my system! And whether using the same strain of decarbed bud with the above oils or a pat of butter, the effects seem all pretty much the same, a nice long steady release of medicine!

 

[InTheShed]

Sue is the one who named it after running a few batches.

You invented though, and obviously decided to sell the naming rights!

It would be interesting to know where that point of saturation is when no more infusing is possible, like when infusing buds into oil do we actually encounter that point or perhaps as long as there is enough oil to cover the herb then it's saturation point is never reached, I don't know, but it would be good to know. My guess for 2 cents is that how effectively the herb is decarbed or not may make a bigger point of difference in some preparations. Lately I have been enjoying picking a small decarbed bud and chewing it with half a teaspoon of olive oil or coconut oil, there is no infusing going on, but I'm hoping for some assistance in the transporting the cannabinoids into my system! And whether using the same strain of decarbed bud with the above oils or a pat of butter, the effects seem all pretty much the same, a nice long steady release of medicine!

We all would Stunger! If only one of us worked at owned a cannabis testing lab!

How effectively it's decarbed will determine how much of your THC is still in the acid form and how much is in the psychoactive form.

One of the purposes of infusion is that cannabis is best absorbed with fat (storing THC in fat is why it takes so long to be clear enough for a drug test!), so pats of butter or some bacon would be the best (and tastiest) way to down the naked decarbed buds. Olive oil and coconut oil alone don't sound anywhere near as appealing!

 

[Grand Daddy Black]

You invented though, and obviously decided to sell the naming rights!

We all would Stunger! If only one of us worked at owned a cannabis testing lab!

How effectively it's decarbed will determine how much of your THC is still in the acid form and how much is in the psychoactive form.

One of the purposes of infusion is that cannabis is best absorbed with fat (storing THC in fat which is why it takes so long to be clear enough for a drug test!), so pats of butter or some bacon would be the best (and tastiest) way to down the naked decarbed buds. Olive oil and coconut oil alone don't sound anywhere near as appealing!

Oh my! A BLT with a healthy sprinkle of decarb. That just might be heaven on earth, @InTheShed.

 

[DutchinAB]

Finally, here are the three Candidas just after they got sprayed with their individually unique PPM sprays, listed on the tape labels!

Ohhhh spray time! It really is the most wonderful time of the year! Here’s hoping to some better results!

 

[InTheShed]

Oh my! A BLT with a healthy sprinkle of decarb. That just might be heaven on earth, @InTheShed.

Don't forget the mayo!

Ohhhh spray time! It really is the most wonderful time of the year! Here’s hoping to some better results!

I sure hope so. Apparently a lot of folks are counting on this being successful.

 

[HashGirl]

If the oil hasn't been tested at various stages along the way, it's just someone saying "This got me higher and this didn't." I think that's way too many variables for it to matter!

And, that someone could be a lightweight like syenite or someone who regularly takes between 500 and 800 mg/ml of THC a day like me.

 

[InTheShed]

someone who regularly takes between 500 and 800 mg/ml of THC a day like me.

Keep 'em growing HG! You've got to keep the coffers full.

 

[HashGirl]

This is the absolute truth. I use this method all my runs now but use much less cannabis because of the end product. A week between runs at a minimum. And at least 2 runs.

So, just to be clear, because you know I'm high , are both runs with the same bud material or is the second run with fresh bud?

Mucho gracias.

 

[Virgin Ground]

I ran my DDA oil in the MB2 for 4x8hrs with cool down between. It's adequately strong for me.

Comatose ftw!!!!

 

[InTheShed]

So, just to be clear, because you know I'm high , are both runs with the same bud material or is the second run with fresh bud?
Mucho gracias.

Derby's method is the same buds in the same oil, with time in the fridge in between.

I ran my DDA oil in the MB2 for 4x8hrs with cool down. It's adequately strong for me.

Comatose ftw!!!!

You go girl!

 

[Virgin Ground]

You go girl!

When I wasn't busy I was busy being lazy that week so I just kept running it until I had the time and energy to address said oil.

It worked out well in the end. I stopped straining my oils unless they are for topicals. I figure that we actually know so little about whole plant therapies that it couldn't hurt. After that many rounds in the MB2 it just looked like used motor oil. It does settle but that is easily remedied.

 

[HashGirl]

And whether using the same strain of decarbed bud with the above oils or a pat of butter, the effects seem all pretty much the same, a nice long steady release of medicine!

You obviously don't know (or I'm assuming you don't know and if that's the case, I sincerely apologize) about what you're doing above is a thing here on 420. Here's the link, if you're interested:

cannabis-dust-simple-consumption-unexpected-potency

You invented though, and obviously decided to sell the naming rights!

We all would Stunger! If only one of us worked at owned a cannabis testing lab!

Wouldn't it be great if 420magazine got a cannabis testing lab as a sponsor?

 

[InTheShed]

When I wasn't busy I was busy being lazy that week so I just kept running it until I had the time and energy to address said oil.

It worked out well in the end. I stopped straining my oils unless they are for topicals. I figure that we actually know so little about whole plant therapies that it couldn't hurt. After that many rounds in the MB2 it just looked like used motor oil. It does settle but that is easily remedied.

The texture in the cookies doesn't bother you? Some folks aren't fond of grit. In capsules it wouldn't make a difference, though it would change the dosing calculations.

Here's the link, if you're interested:

Thanks HG!

Wouldn't it be great if 420magazine got a cannabis testing lab as a sponsor?

Great idea! Maybe @420 could have his outside sales execs ( ) contact Anresco up in SF...that's who does my testing.

 

[HashGirl]

Keep 'em growing HG! You've got to keep the coffers full.

I'm trying. So far, with my first grow, I got 14 grams in total. I'm hoping that each successful grow yields more and more because right now, I have a MB machine that I've used exactly once in the 4 years that I've had it because I just don't have enough flower to accommodate the minimum 2 cups, at least not at the potency I require. I'm already infusing 20 grams into half a cup and that barely saturates it but I don't have enough bud to use 80 grams at once to reach the minimum.

 

[InTheShed]

I'm trying. So far, with my first grow, I got 14 grams in total. I'm hoping that each successful grow yields more and more because right now, I have a MB machine that I've used exactly once in the 4 years that I've had it because I just don't have enough flower to accommodate the minimum 2 cups, at least not at the potency I require. I'm already infusing 20 grams into half a cup and that barely saturates it but I don't have enough bud to use 80 grams at once to reach the minimum.

Are you currently buying that 500-800mg/day?

 

[Virgin Ground]

The texture in the cookies doesn't bother you? Some folks aren't fond of grit. In capsules it wouldn't make a difference, though it would change the dosing calculations.

With that many runs the oil isn't gritty. You can only see tiny specks of plant matter. It all mixes into suspension and takes some time to settle.