Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing & Review

Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

Wouldn't it be great if things were like that? Too much moola in this business to take the chance that a competitor is going to best you in a side by side comparison, so I don't think it's gonna happen.

Icemud said on his other journal that he'll do one in the future so we'll have to wait & see.
I don't buy into fancy graphs & claimed figures pumped out by light companies, I buy into results. If their light is as good as they say, then they have nothing to lose & everything to gain. If it wins hands down, which it should do quite easily, then I'll buy their light and so will everyone else who witnesses this miracle product.
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

My advice is if you buy into results, go with manufacturers that use that claim as a selling point. Avoid those whose selling points are lumen counts, light bill savings, or coolest operating temps.


I bought Mars II based on results I've seen in grow journals & Sara gave me a price that I couldn't turn down. I took a gamble on trying their flower spectrum as I've never seen anyone use it but like I said, the price was so low it wasn't not much to gamble.
What I need to see is comparisons with TopLED's or ZNet lights that cost pennies, going up against these big claiming companies.
Crawdaddy is doing a side by side grow with TopLED & Advanced LED which is a great test.

Icemud is doing a great job of showing what these lights can do but it would have to work miracles in a stand alone test to persuade me to buy one at their prices. If a side by side test was done and it produces more buds of better quality then at least we know there is something in the claims they make.
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

Based upon what I've seen all of the LEDs do a decent job for our favorite ladies so I wouldn't be basing my decision to buy off of a couple grams extra yield or anything like that. For me, the purchasing decision would be based upon quality/reliability of the light, energy savings potential over the life of the light and overall value. I would even consider the lower quality light if it will provide a better ROI over its life.
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

This has been a nice grow Ice. However I disagree that these intella grow lights are lexus compared to a yugo marsII...I will happily tell you that my Mars II is producing as good if not better than anything I have seen of these not so fail safe lights. For the money...I'd spend a little more and get a lush...one without all those parts...Parts fail...switches fail...cords short out...a little bit of moisture the internals are f'ed. For me you did show it grows some nice produce. But the rest of the tests have proven that simple makes more sense...
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

Based upon what I've seen all of the LEDs do a decent job for our favorite ladies so I wouldn't be basing my decision to buy off of a couple grams extra yield or anything like that. For me, the purchasing decision would be based upon quality/reliability of the light, energy savings potential over the life of the light and overall value. I would even consider the lower quality light if it will provide a better ROI over its life.

I agree & from what I've seen all LED's are very much a muchness. TopLED give a 3 year warranty & have proven reliable & produced good results.
My point is this, with a grow off with say a Mars II 400w and an Intelligent Gro 228 (which both draw the same wattage) both grew an identical clone from start to finish & the bud was dried & weighed at the end. Lets say the Mars produced 2oz of nice buds & the Intelligent gro produced 2 1/2oz, to me the extra cost isn't worth the extra outlay. If it produced 3oz & looked far superior throughout the grow, then at this point it looks like the extra outlay could pay dividends and I'd seriously consider investing. If it produced 4oz then to me they've matched their claims & it'd be folly not to buy them if funds allowed.
Watching a single grow with no comparison will never make me buy an expensive light as I wont see anything to justify the cost.
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

Hey IceMud, I had been looking for an American made/ American warranty LED that fit my micro cabs, and worked well for the personal indoor grower, so as soon as I saw your threads, I had to read them. It is very telling that you like the gen 1 lights so much that you wanted to do your next grow to harvest with their gen 2 lights. I just wanted to say all that and invite you and any others to my micro grow with the 135w IntelligentGro LED. David said to tell you "Hello"

P.S, if you are seriously interested in LED, give them a call, or email them, they have no problem with discussing at LENGTH, any questions you MIGHT have.

1.5 Sq Foot - 2 Cab LED SOG Perpetual Grow - Microeconomics for the Personal Grower
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

I have 3 of the 4 module and 1 of the 2
2 have been run with progamer all 4 power supplies have died in both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the 3rd and 2piece has never had the controler even connected works fine.
just a theory.
The programer/controler is the weak link /design flaw
after lights on another burn out on an already replaced unit
and looking the insides over maybe a added fan to the power supplies?
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

Ice are these sort of problems fixed by a simple swap out of a plugin circuit board or is there individual light/chip soldering involved?

I am not Icemud but it is very simple to swap out
take screws off the top
find the bad supply
2 screws hold it in
3 wire ties to cut
and 3 wire harness to disconnect
:peace:
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

These units seem awfully unreliable, too much tech & not enough testing before putting them into production. Power packs & COBs blowing left right & center. I wonder if they've fixed the issues on the V2?
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

yo jaamzhow, wazz good,
I have been very rough on these lights.
plus my 3 panels were the first 380w panels produced
I LURCH FARMER believe the issue has something to do with the controller, and the gradual increase than decrease of power
the panel that has not been controlled runs 10 degrees cooler than the rest.
An alternate theory is the cob in the center of each cluster requires more cooling
Either way Dave is working hard get the kinks out
Just look at it this way The first gen is 4 months old and already gen 2 is correcting some oversights
And we can't get mad at Dave for any of this cause all the established LED companies did the same when they first started.
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

I wonder if gen1 owners get a free upgrade to gen2 as part of the warranty?
I live in the UK so I couldn't trust these lights just yet, waiting weeks for spare parts could ruin my grow. I think I'm best waiting for all the faults to be fixed before considering any purchase. I'd also be gutted if I bought some & a few months down the line they ware superseded by a better unit.
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

I am not Icemud but it is very simple to swap out
take screws off the top
find the bad supply
2 screws hold it in
3 wire ties to cut
and 3 wire harness to disconnect
:peace:
My mars ll...plug into a timer...worry free and works fantastic. I think intel needs to take their product back to the drawing board
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

I'd also be gutted if I bought some & a few months down the line they ware superseded by a better unit.

Well, that's likely to happen regardless of what light you get right now. That doesn't mean it would be made obsolete, but superceded most certainly. That is the nature of electronics and while "Moore's Law" doesn't necessarily apply here, it's most assuredly what comes to mind when I read your statement. LED lighting has come miles from just 2 years ago, and 2 years from now, we may all look at what we're using now saying..."Man, I don't know how I ever grew decent meds with those lights". In fact, if they aren't considerably better I'd be upset. Anyway, trying to build in some future-proofing into a grow is a good idea, but as cannabis becomes more widely accepted and legal (albeit in different degrees) there will be many more products coming to an open market. Nutes and lights right at the front. My nutes are a year old, and they work well, but I'm already looking to my next grow and considering changing my nute line to see if there is something that's better.
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

Hey everyone!!

Day 49 of flowering update...


Well it looks as though some people may be having issues with the Intelligent Gro panels, but mine are working just fine.. Matter of fact my buds have never looked so good, even despite me locking out my plants with what I think now is too high of a soil EC, the buds are still completely dense (rock hard), covered in trichomes, and look to be swelling just like all my other grows under different lights...

So I have to say, when these lights are working, like mine are...they produce amazing results. I have to say, all electronics fail, major brands, small companies, they all have issues that sometimes emerge, but it is how the company handles the issues is what makes a great company..

My journal, as well as others are proof, that when the lights work, they work extremely well, matter of fact in all honesty, using just the 2x Igro lights at around 360w total draw (not including the dimming which actually reduced the draw over time), my Igro's are doing just as good as my 1000w HID setup as far as growth, but the buds look much better under the IGro...

With all that said, it sucks that some peoples panels haven't withstood the test of time, however, In my case, they are working perfectly, and I am extremely happy with them..and my statement has nothing to do with being sponsored or not, and only has to do with what I am seeing in my grow tent.

Other than my (human error) of either overwatering or too much salt build up, the lights are outperforming my mars II lights that I had in past journals, and by the bud structure, trichome formation and size, they seem to be even outperforming my HID setup... (even with my watering/salt errors...

So today makes day 49 of flowering (from the flip)....

I ran pure r/o water through both of the Black Cherry Cola's yesterday, flooded the soil and then sucked out all the water in the drain trays. I was curious what my PPM of the runoff was so I checked the water going in...38ppm....draining out of the pots however was over 2000ppm...so I think that I found my issue with my lockout...too much salt buildup...

Today I will be doing the same to all the other plants showing slight lockout....flooding the soil, and sucking up the runoff. Hopefully this will allow them to finish up for the remaining 2-3 weeks and keep up the healthy buds I am seeing.

I also gave the girls a foliar spray today, I noticed that the last foliar spray I gave them must have had too high of concentration of nutrients that burned the leaves in spots (almost looks like spidermite damage) but its not. Its not horrible, but definitely the leaves did not like the concentration of what I threw at them last time....So this foliar spray I gave them only r/o water, with cold pressed seaweed, some organic B vitamins, and my botanicare cal/mag in a very low concentration. I wanted to give them a little foliar nutrition

Either way, dispite the minor drawbacks of my lockout, the girls buds look phenominal, resin is caked on all strains, and they smell amazing!!!! This should be a great harvest :)

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Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

My I-Gro panel is working great also.

If I ever do have a problem I'll let everyone know.

And contact I-Gro, and see how it's handled.

But at this point I'm completely satisfied with my results.
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

Most companies don't want any bad feedback on their customer service. 99% Will do what it takes to make it right. With any new technology, there are going to be bugs. We, (growers) end up being the guinea pigs.
 
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