Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing & Review

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Great share icemud. I was thinking isn't it funny how we all want to experiment with the programable settings, when I'm sure danky and co would have researched to replicate the sun patterns at specific seasons for how the plant is grown what's needed and when, given us the programs and all we can think about is the self customisation of the units spectrum. Well maybe not all but I am and I'm a tradesman with no scientific or botany background ( except what I grow and know). Like figuring out my own high brix method isn't hard enough, on top of it I'm looking now at sun charts and spring sun charts, this is awesome, knowledge is king (when your interested in the subject) peace
 
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Happy Thurweed day Ice Great Vid :thumb:
 
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Great share icemud. I was thinking isn't it funny how we all want to experiment with the programable settings, when I'm sure danky and co would have researched to replicate the sun patterns at specific seasons for how the plant is grown what's needed and when, given us the programs and all we can think about is the self customisation of the units spectrum. Well maybe not all but I am and I'm a tradesman with no scientific or botany background ( except what I grow and know). Like figuring out my own high brix method isn't hard enough, on top of it I'm looking now at sun charts and spring sun charts, this is awesome, knowledge is king (when your interested in the subject) peace[/QUOTE]

Well actually.... lets plant this seed in your mind. Afghani Kusk, or sour diesel well first strain probably originated from afghan..and we all know the climate out thier is way different then ..wel sour desiel which is from my knowledge a commonn jamaican strain..and again if it is jamaican that is another completely different climate.

so, the settings are more focused fro the majority general Cannabis plant. each plant still has its onw variables and could easily permit the fun of customizatin to see what perfect setting suits that strains perfeclty..

I am not going to correct my grammer...its too late.
good night
 
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Well add looking at specific areas sun spec patterns, more work, thanks danky lol
Feel like an idiot, don't know how long it would have taken me to think about specific strains areas light and temp, humidity. Is it possible to change altitude in a grow room? Does that technology exist?
 
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timothypaul26 said:
Very nice work on the video. Looking forward to following the growth of these sweet little girls.
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Thank you Timothypaul!!! definitely excited as well as I know this grow is going to be awesome!
 
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SmokeyMcFly said:
I didn't get to read over all this yet but I just checked out their website and cant wait to see the results from these. Salt water reef aquarium guys are gonna effin love these. Corals are very sensitive and having sunrise sunset and cloudy settings will be huge for them. Are they really a single 54w led in the center? The 5w chips already seem strong I cant imagine what 54w is like lol. I got some reading to check out :D
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I too can see so many applications for programmable LED lights. I work in Audio/Video setup part time and we always used LED lights for stage application which were all programmable. About 2 years ago I was wondering when the grow/aquarium LED companies would catch on...Looks like my dreams have been answered! Yeah the chips in the middle are bright!!!
 
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DankyDavid said:
Yes Nice video... I will admit was a bit embarrassed about those two little white specs on the Controller screen. Controller cord could be a bit longer...good point as well.
I will look into these kinds of things mentioned as something to work on for bettering the unit. By no means will I ignore anything that is pointed out that we all would agre upon as being something to make better in any way.
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Hey DankyDavid!! Thank you for the compliments on the video! No worries about the LCD screen on the controller, things like this happen and thats what us grower/testers are here for! Every company has little kinks to work out in the beginning and I am happy to be part of it all :) as far as performance of the controller it works fine, its really just a cosmetic thing that most probably wouldn't care about. I'm happy that you liked the video and I will continue to point out all suggestions, observations and details that I find :) So far I love the lights and I have very high hopes for the results on my plants.
 
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jandre2k3 said:
I see what you're saying there, but assuming that the plants need a full 12 hours and no less to flower is mildly incorrect. I see plants start to flower at a mere 14.5 hours light, and 9.5 hours darkness, and go into full flower at 10.5 hours of darkness. so... coming on a little early and only giving them 11 hours of total darkness isn't really that big of a deal, really. Especially so here since it's between 0% and 35% of the full power light that they will be getting. Remember that the MOON in nature is known to be 43% of the brightness of the sun in the right conditions, and that is nearly all night long for a few FULL nights a month....
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I agree with you Jandre as far as the flowering times...but the generally accepted flowering schedule of 12/12 is actually represented by a 13/11 schedule as currently listed on the websites custom bloom schedule. All I was suggesting is to be careful when programming your lights because when you pick the lights to come on at 3:00, the lights actually start illuminating at 2:00 and increase intensity from their on until at 3:00 the intensity % has been reached. Photosynthesis doesn't start until light hits the compensation point which for a lot of similar plants is around 100Fc (not exactly sure about cannabis) so any light that is under 100Fc will not engage photosynthesis anyways, so your are absolutely correct about moonlight and such, but just thought it was a worthy mention as a tester that some slight modifications to the suggested lights schedule may be needed. I didn't know that the moon was 43% the brightness of the sun when full, I believe it, but wow...thats bright! I am glad that our moon is as small as it is...could you imagine nightime if the moon was double the size!!! Holy Crapola!! LOL Anyhow I appreciate the info on flowering, they say you learn something everyday, here at 420 Magazine I learn a lot of somethings everyday! peace bro!
 
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Icemud said:
I agree with you Jandre as far as the flowering times...but the generally accepted flowering schedule of 12/12 is actually represented by a 13/11 schedule as currently listed on the websites custom bloom schedule. All I was suggesting is to be careful when programming your lights because when you pick the lights to come on at 3:00, the lights actually start illuminating at 2:00 and increase intensity from their on until at 3:00 the intensity % has been reached. Photosynthesis doesn't start until light hits the compensation point which for a lot of similar plants is around 100Fc (not exactly sure about cannabis) so any light that is under 100Fc will not engage photosynthesis anyways, so your are absolutely correct about moonlight and such, but just thought it was a worthy mention as a tester that some slight modifications to the suggested lights schedule may be needed. I didn't know that the moon was 43% the brightness of the sun when full, I believe it, but wow...thats bright! I am glad that our moon is as small as it is...could you imagine nightime if the moon was double the size!!! Holy Crapola!! LOL Anyhow I appreciate the info on flowering, they say you learn something everyday, here at 420 Magazine I learn a lot of somethings everyday! peace bro!
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AAAHhh.... I see, right... you know me, got lost in the data again... meant no offense.

and the 43% is "Relative" brightness... like "Relative" humidity, it's not an absolute.

and y'know... I don't think size would matter here. More the reflectiveness of the matter in question, I think.

random thought: Is "reflectiveness" a word?
 
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GrizzWald said:
Great share icemud. I was thinking isn't it funny how we all want to experiment with the programable settings, when I'm sure danky and co would have researched to replicate the sun patterns at specific seasons for how the plant is grown what's needed and when, given us the programs and all we can think about is the self customisation of the units spectrum. Well maybe not all but I am and I'm a tradesman with no scientific or botany background ( except what I grow and know). Like figuring out my own high brix method isn't hard enough, on top of it I'm looking now at sun charts and spring sun charts, this is awesome, knowledge is king (when your interested in the subject) peace
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Dont you just love growing!! :) This is exactly why I love growing because it allows me to understand plant biology by learning on a plant I truly care about :) And then once I learn something and get it right, totally re-adjust everything to try another idea....LOL I found a bunch of information on photography websites regarding the suns color shifts, might be a good place to continue your research :)

I found this a while back when I was researching light spectrums and trying to replicate the color shift with my HID lights...might be of interest to you as well as others... I wish I could remember the source of the info, but all I remember was it was on a photography website..
Before sunrise: 10,000 degrees K

Before sunrise the only illumination comes indirectly from a blue sky. This produces a characteristic strong steel blue color.

Dawn: 2,000-2,500 degrees K

The lighting will change to a very warm red color just as the sun comes up. Look for the first appearance of shadows.

Early morning: 3,000-4,000 degrees K

The color temperature will become more neutral as the sun continues to rise through the morning.

Midday: 5,500 degrees K

Overhead sun at noon produces neutral colors, though this may not be best pictorially.

Overcast: 7,500 degrees K

Overcast lighting conditions raise the color temperature noticeably. Your photographs will have much cooler colors.

Shade: 10,000 degrees K

The color temperature in shade on a sunny day is extremely high. All of the lighting will be coming from the blue sky.

Afternoon sun: 3,000-4,000 degrees K

The color temperature will fall as the sun goes down. The light effects become warmer and redder.

Sunset: 2,000-2,500 degrees K

Some of the reddest lighting conditions of the whole day will be at sunset.

Twilight: 10,000 degrees K
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DankyDavid said:
Well actually.... lets plant this seed in your mind. Afghani Kusk, or sour diesel well first strain probably originated from afghan..and we all know the climate out thier is way different then ..wel sour desiel which is from my knowledge a commonn jamaican strain..and again if it is jamaican that is another completely different climate.

so, the settings are more focused fro the majority general Cannabis plant. each plant still has its onw variables and could easily permit the fun of customizatin to see what perfect setting suits that strains perfeclty..

I am not going to correct my grammer...its too late.
good night
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I wonder where a good source would be for the lighting conditions of different geographic locations. I think it would be awesome to run certain strains and replicate their natural instinctive light schedules and color temps.... Wow there are so many potential trials and experiments I am envisioning with these lights. I have been waiting for a long time for this time of customization in plant lighting!!!
 
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timothypaul26 said:
It's work in progress man, new product = issues. If those tiny white specs are all the issues that you have at this point kudos to you. I wouldn't like them neither but still very minor issue at this point in the game.
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I agree, definitely just a very minor cosmetic issue and I am 420% pleased with the lights so far!!! These babies are amazing! I felt as a "tester" that I should point out all the good and the bad, or I wouldn't be doing my job to help advancement of future products and QC.
 
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icemud said:
dont you just love growing!! :) this is exactly why i love growing because it allows me to understand plant biology by learning on a plant i truly care about :) and then once i learn something and get it right, totally re-adjust everything to try another idea....lol i found a bunch of information on photography websites regarding the suns color shifts, might be a good place to continue your research :)

i found this a while back when i was researching light spectrums and trying to replicate the color shift with my hid lights...might be of interest to you as well as others... I wish i could remember the source of the info, but all i remember was it was on a photography website..
before sunrise: 10,000 degrees k

before sunrise the only illumination comes indirectly from a blue sky. This produces a characteristic strong steel blue color.

Dawn: 2,000-2,500 degrees k

the lighting will change to a very warm red color just as the sun comes up. Look for the first appearance of shadows.

Early morning: 3,000-4,000 degrees k

the color temperature will become more neutral as the sun continues to rise through the morning.

Midday: 5,500 degrees k

overhead sun at noon produces neutral colors, though this may not be best pictorially.

Overcast: 7,500 degrees k

overcast lighting conditions raise the color temperature noticeably. Your photographs will have much cooler colors.

Shade: 10,000 degrees k

the color temperature in shade on a sunny day is extremely high. All of the lighting will be coming from the blue sky.

Afternoon sun: 3,000-4,000 degrees k

the color temperature will fall as the sun goes down. The light effects become warmer and redder.

Sunset: 2,000-2,500 degrees k

some of the reddest lighting conditions of the whole day will be at sunset.

Twilight: 10,000 degrees k
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spectacular! :cheesygrinsmiley:
 
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Cronichemphog said:
Happy Thurweed day Ice Great Vid :thumb:
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Happy Friedday Cronic!!!! Thank you for the compliments and I appreciate you watching the video!
 
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GrizzWald said:
Well add looking at specific areas sun spec patterns, more work, thanks danky lol
Feel like an idiot, don't know how long it would have taken me to think about specific strains areas light and temp, humidity. Is it possible to change altitude in a grow room? Does that technology exist?
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Hahaha thats awesome! an altitude controlled climate!! now that is something that NASA would probably take on if they haven't already! Awesome idea! I know that altitude does effect the amount of UV-B light that hits the plants and from studies that I read the buds/strains with the most trichome production typically are in the areas with the most UV-B light hitting the plants (I can't remember where I read this) I just can't wait until they start selling MOON DUST for remineralizing the soil! That would be some Cosmic weed!
 
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jandre2k3 said:
AAAHhh.... I see, right... you know me, got lost in the data again... meant no offense.

and the 43% is "Relative" brightness... like "Relative" humidity, it's not an absolute.

and y'know... I don't think size would matter here. More the reflectiveness of the matter in question, I think.

random thought: Is "reflectiveness" a word?
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No offense taken my friend!! Great points about the moonlight and different strain related photoperiods as well! LOL at "size wouldn't matter here, more the reflectiveness" Hahaha You had me rollin man!! I'm going to have to use that one someday at a bar...LOL, probably will end up with a handprint across my face though...LOL
 
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Here is just a few photos I took tonight. You will notice there is another plant in the tent. That is my OGiesel that you may have seen in past photos. I severely chopped/prunned her so that she wouldn't shadow out the other plants. I still haven't decided what to do with this one since I don't have room in any of my other tents, but I think that once my clone of her roots, I may just gift this one to someone local because I have a clone going to keep the genetics around.

Eventually the Ogiesel will become part of my breeding project in my other grow tent, but for now I put her under the intelligent-gro lights to enjoy some tropical rays :)

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Looking good so far. I really like the color of these lights. You are under full grow all 3 buttons on at the moment?
 
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