Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing & Review

Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

timothypaul26 said:
Dave did comment about the power not being totally of in the beginning of the thread.
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Could you help me find it Tim? I found where he talked about the current draw.

I understood that they need some draw for the controller to work. I've got some electronics background, so I think I can understand how that might be the case, but they don't have to use the LEDs as a load. They could add a resistor as a load. At least now I know that glow is intentional. I'm not even concerned about the power usage. I agree the savings with the custom programming will more than offset it. I'm only concerned about putting light into a flowering room during lights out.

I still like these lights a lot!

I missed BIDs new journal too. I was sorta MIA there for awhile and missed a whole lot of stuff lol

Thanks for sharing your experience with us Icemud. I'm one of those math geek types too, so I like they way you present your results. :thumb:
 
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I will look and copy the post when I find it. But I have been following both ice and bid's journal. It very well could have been bid's
 
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We have been investigating this issue for past two weeks. Today we sorted it all out. We had found a few with this issues and traced it back to the power supply pack. We have now fixed this issue as it has been a concern for some. Thank You




Hiker said:
Can you program the controller to run through one of it's simulation cycles in less than 24 hours?

If you put it on a timer, when it wakes up, how will it know what to do? Does it have an actual clock so you set it up to come on at 2PM, or whatever?


I guess I'm unclear how this feature works. Maybe I should go lookup their website.

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Edit: OK I read their site. I get it now


Did you ask them about that current draw during "off"? Seems like a bug in the circuit. I'm curious what the vendor's response about this is.

I've never been able to reconcile moonlight in my own mind. I'm super paranoid about having total darkness during flowering after some bad experience. I have Al tape over every LED in my flowering room. Yes, even the green ones! :blalol: I know there is moonlight in the "real world". A full moon is very bright, and there are at least 2 during a flowering cycle. Anyway, that's an interesting issue you discovered with the lights and I'd like to know what the vendor said about it. I've never looked up the spectrum of moonlight, maybe it's a dim red light and they are simulating that?
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Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

You might be right. I did answer that one. however I didnt psot the answer in every journal as this kind of appears like I am spamming(well someone complained to 420 because I posted same answer in all three threads once before.. it was suggested I just avoid that in the future.)

Anyways..
Yes this panel has eletronics inside only way for me this technology to be integrated with the panel. Each module has 3 channels and works in conjunction with the controller sending information. This llows the controller to know if the light is at 0% or 100%. Therefore, for everyone one of my panels there is an approximate 3w draw per module. so a 114w = 3w standby power draw, 228 =6w and so on..


This has nothing to do with the light staying a little lit or not. You be surprised at how many of the electronics in your house has a standy power draw.. nearly all of them!

However, the controller does hold a little reserve power that enables the controller to be turned off using the timer as Icemud has mentioned. So if you do not want that tiny minuscule amount of energy to be wasted then you can use a timer. I been good at accommodating issues but...NO I can not include a timer inside each box for free...it wont fit! I do not see a good enough reason to justify the expense considering the amount of energy savings that takes place using the panel with controller.








timothypaul26 said:
I will look and copy the post when I find it. But I have been following both ice and bid's journal. It very well could have been bid's
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Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

Hey Everyone, just wanted to do a quick photo update.

Looks like Danky addressed all the concerns with the power draw and dimly lit lights, so hopefully we can move along with the grow :)

I gave the girls a foliar spray of Amaze, PGR, carboload, organic b and R/O water.

I also did some supercropping to help force more branching in the plants since they seem to be growing fast, I want to get all the tops I can early :) By the way they are growing, I think in a matter of just a few weeks I am going to need to get them into 5 gallon pots :)


Other than that I just took some photo's before the light faded out (before the foliar spraying)

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Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

They call that "Vampire Power" All the gadgets in your home that suck electricity even when the appliance is off; just in my bedroom I count 12 LEDs or displays that are always on. I was thinking that growing outdoors in my veggy garden would be disastrous because of the glow of all the red/orange MH streetlights that reach my garden area. Funny how my peppers and tomatoes aren't so fussy with all the light pollution - but those are bee pollinated. But corn is wind pollinated like cannabis, and it isn't freaked out by night lights. MMmm
 
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DankyDavid said:
You might be right. I did answer that one. however I didnt psot the answer in every journal as this kind of appears like I am spamming(well someone complained to 420 because I posted same answer in all three threads once before.. it was suggested I just avoid that in the future.)
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An answer to a glitch in your products would not be considered spam like the other posts you refer to. Glad you are working on a solution !
 
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Subscribed. I want to see how these lights preform. With all of the led panels out there I want some that are among the best.
 
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True true. Im not sure if I want another led to replace my hps or to go with my led and hps. Im not sure if I want to go 3 watt diode again or go 5 watt this time so im looking at a lot of led journal. The fact that is certain is I want more led I love em.
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

I also have cfl but I feel I may just use those to sprout seedlings. 2 200 watt cfl
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

So these 3 watt panels run 10 degrees hotter then 5 watt diode panels that seems extremely high considering led are supposed to run cool. The temps at the leaf is decent but still the overall temps would be a major concern of mine. I suppose keeping the fact that you live in Cali and the ambient air temps are warmer. Where I am at for most of the year the temps wouldnt reach that level.

I comment as I go. I have your journal open on 2 monitors. 1 to read it and the 2nd to comment as I read which is why there arent quotes because that would defeat the purpose.
 
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In what situation would you want to lower a leds intensity? You mentioned to test different spectrums but dont they sell custom led that you can order it with whatever spectrums you would like. Granted the prices are a lot higher but for someone with limited room wouldnt that be a lot more manageable?
 
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Wow those temps are high Im sorry I mentioned that prior but I just think thats a ton of heat coming off of 2 midsize led and was that heat pre ventelation temps or after? I think I missed it.
 
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I really like the dimming and increasing of the lights to emulate a sunrise and sunset. Very cool
 
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wow you said that perfectly always plenty to learn here the more you open your mind read,watch and absorb useful info and then apply it to your grow your going to have better meds and in return your going to be a happier person
 
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SmokerJoe said:
So these 3 watt panels run 10 degrees hotter then 5 watt diode panels that seems extremely high considering led are supposed to run cool. The temps at the leaf is decent but still the overall temps would be a major concern of mine. I suppose keeping the fact that you live in Cali and the ambient air temps are warmer. Where I am at for most of the year the temps wouldnt reach that level.

I comment as I go. I have your journal open on 2 monitors. 1 to read it and the 2nd to comment as I read which is why there arent quotes because that would defeat the purpose.
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The difference between these Intelligent Gro LED's vs other LED companies products is that Intelligent LED uses an all aluminum frame and casing which acts as a heat sink (the entire frame) unlike most other LED lights in which a smaller aluminum heat sink is cooled by loud fans, The intelligent gro lights run almost whisper quiet..... the little 3" desk fan I have is louder than the intelligent gro lights...I can barely hear these things running....UNLIKE my other LED panels which are very very loud, definitely not stealthy, the intelligent gro lights would be perfect if you needed a quiet running grow light.

I believe the "LED's run cool" is sort of a misconstrued statement. With both of my brands of LED's, they run the same if not slightly hotter than my HID lights I replaced. (LED lights run cooler to the touch, and rid the grow area of bulbs running at 500F or more) The reason being LED's vent warmer air into the tent, with no method of evacuation, where as air cooled hoods remove the hot air directly. So far my plants are loving the lights and the tent stays under 81F with the average room temp sitting between 72-80F.

For me personally, I am not convinced that any LED can lower the temperature that significantly over HID, however, My "buying points" did not include heat reduction. I wanted LED because it was a huge (over 100$ per month) savings on my electric bill, and the quality of light is better (PAR) than HID lights... So for these 2 reasons, personally, LED is the way to go!
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

SmokerJoe said:
In what situation would you want to lower a leds intensity? You mentioned to test different spectrums but dont they sell custom led that you can order it with whatever spectrums you would like. Granted the prices are a lot higher but for someone with limited room wouldnt that be a lot more manageable?
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Smokerjoe...I would suggest going back to the video I made and watching it and you will see what the custom spectrums are all about. The lights have a controller that attaches that allow you to program each hour of your day, what spectral balance you want coming from the lights. There are 3 channels, one blue, one red, and one white in which each can be set to an intensity level of 0 to 100% for each hour of the day. So the lights do not need to be customized. The come with a controller that allow you to customize your spectrum.

For instance.

Say your plants are in veg...they do not need full spectrum and full intensity so for this purpose you can dim the lights slightly to save on power as well as give your vegging plants a more blue oriented spectrum. For late flowering during the ripening period, you can again dim the lights to emulated the dimmer fall days and increase resin production.

So as you can see, the lights don't need to be "custom built" since the power of the custom controller allows you to "tune" the lights however you please.
 
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