Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
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Icemud Goes LED - Featuring Top LED Grow - Cherry Pie GSC/OGiesel/SFV OG/UVH OG
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Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
Hey Doozy!! Really appreciate you asking me and I apologize that I didn't respond sooner. First off, sounds like you will have a killer setup with that gorilla tent! I will try to help the best I can but I currently am only using the Mars 80w5w model so I can only go off of that. As far as the options you have posted, I probably would say start with the 1200w Mars 2 first over 2x 700w ones, I think the spread or optimal lighting area would be better for your size tent. Like I said though, I only have the 400w one so I can only guess based on what the website shows for coverage area. I think there are a few other growers here using the larger Mars II lights that may be able to help as well.
As far as different spectrums, I have only used the Standard spectrum one for flowering, and so far I am very impressed with the positive effects on my plants. I know others here are using the Area 51 spectrum one for growing and I believe also having good results as well. Mixing spectrum is never a bad thing either, but I don't know if 2x 700w ones would light your tent appropriately, maybe 1x 700w (area 51) and 1x 900w (standard) might be a good option too. You could even go 4x 400w ones...2 of them standard spectrum and 2 of them with the area 51 spectrum..
Its hard to say because I don't really have direct experience with the same growing size tent, mine is rectangle, so for me, more LED's in the smaller sizes works best.
Hi,
I'm totally new to all this, but am so far convinced that for my first setup i'll be getting a 5 x 5 Gorilla tent and a 1200w Mars 2 LED.
My question is, would the 1200w Mars 2 LED work all the way from seed to harvest with just one light? Or do i need to get two different lights (say 2 x 700W Mars 2's) with different spectrums instead, to achieve good results? I ask because they have 3 different types of light on the website, standard, veg and flower....it's a bit confusing for a noob!
Great thread by the way Icemud, really informative. Thanks in advance for any help you, or any other member can give me
Hey Doozy!! Really appreciate you asking me and I apologize that I didn't respond sooner. First off, sounds like you will have a killer setup with that gorilla tent! I will try to help the best I can but I currently am only using the Mars 80w5w model so I can only go off of that. As far as the options you have posted, I probably would say start with the 1200w Mars 2 first over 2x 700w ones, I think the spread or optimal lighting area would be better for your size tent. Like I said though, I only have the 400w one so I can only guess based on what the website shows for coverage area. I think there are a few other growers here using the larger Mars II lights that may be able to help as well.
As far as different spectrums, I have only used the Standard spectrum one for flowering, and so far I am very impressed with the positive effects on my plants. I know others here are using the Area 51 spectrum one for growing and I believe also having good results as well. Mixing spectrum is never a bad thing either, but I don't know if 2x 700w ones would light your tent appropriately, maybe 1x 700w (area 51) and 1x 900w (standard) might be a good option too. You could even go 4x 400w ones...2 of them standard spectrum and 2 of them with the area 51 spectrum..
Its hard to say because I don't really have direct experience with the same growing size tent, mine is rectangle, so for me, more LED's in the smaller sizes works best.
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Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
I very much appreciate you laying it out KingJohn C!!! I will have to try that method. I didn't soak them long enough I think because after 48 hours I didn't see tap roots, but I also didn't check the PH of the water, it was pure r/o water with a drop of superthrive. I also will try without the dome but with the heating mat to see if that works.
I very much appreciate you laying it out KingJohn C!!! I will have to try that method. I didn't soak them long enough I think because after 48 hours I didn't see tap roots, but I also didn't check the PH of the water, it was pure r/o water with a drop of superthrive. I also will try without the dome but with the heating mat to see if that works.
woundedvet420
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Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
The older the seeds are the less viable they are. You should store them at room temp in a dark place. I've tired many methods for poping seeds and the way I hate the best results is with the moist paper towel. I put the seeds on one then I lay another on top of them. I like to put that into a zip lock bag for the humidity. Then I put them in a warm dark place and normally with in 2 days they all have tap roots. There are so many methods and everyone has their own methods but maybe that will help you. I had a few questions that I wanted to ask you but I didn't want to take up your journal.
Yeah I still haven't really spend enough time reading and researching about seeds yet so I think I have to hit the forums and really find a good method. I tried soaking them for 2 days and then towel, I tried just the paper towel, I tried the root riot plugs and just soil and not much luck. I also am using old seed from quite a while back, which were just stored in old plastic containers so I don't know if they are still good or not. I guess I really have to take my time with it and read up
The yellow and blue papers are for bugs...The colors attract different types of pests supposedly and I just put them in every grow to make sure no pests hit my soil or plants.. They work really well with fungus gnats too
The older the seeds are the less viable they are. You should store them at room temp in a dark place. I've tired many methods for poping seeds and the way I hate the best results is with the moist paper towel. I put the seeds on one then I lay another on top of them. I like to put that into a zip lock bag for the humidity. Then I put them in a warm dark place and normally with in 2 days they all have tap roots. There are so many methods and everyone has their own methods but maybe that will help you. I had a few questions that I wanted to ask you but I didn't want to take up your journal.
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Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
I think I made the mistake of putting the seeds in the plugs too early. I didn't really see a tap root coming out so I think that may be why they didn't germinate. The seed thing was brought up by another botched attempt at germinating seeds. I pulled the red cups they were in out of my tent to make room for the vegging plants.. oh well, got plenty more seeds to mess with
I think I made the mistake of putting the seeds in the plugs too early. I didn't really see a tap root coming out so I think that may be why they didn't germinate. The seed thing was brought up by another botched attempt at germinating seeds. I pulled the red cups they were in out of my tent to make room for the vegging plants.. oh well, got plenty more seeds to mess with
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Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
You can check out Top LED's reflector series...the 196x3w... I have the 144x3w and it is a very bright light.
You can check out Top LED's reflector series...the 196x3w... I have the 144x3w and it is a very bright light.
Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
one thing about using a heat mat with seeds. Cannabis seed are one of the plants that germination of female and male ratio is determined by temperature, cooler temperatures for germination should produce more female plants.
one thing about using a heat mat with seeds. Cannabis seed are one of the plants that germination of female and male ratio is determined by temperature, cooler temperatures for germination should produce more female plants.
woundedvet420
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Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
So far which light are you liking better the reflector or the Mars?
So far which light are you liking better the reflector or the Mars?
Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
tell all my gdp seeds lol
I hope my last ones a female cause its not available at this time anymore meh
lol
tell all my gdp seeds lol
I hope my last ones a female cause its not available at this time anymore meh
lol
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Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
Awesome knowledge KingJohn!!! Really appreciate you sharing with me I never knew that and now I know....no heatmat
Awesome knowledge KingJohn!!! Really appreciate you sharing with me
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Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
Well its hard to say because they are both used for different purposes, but I can say this.. I am very pleased with both lights. The Mars II does seem to have better penetration but the reflector series seems to blend the light more so if you were doing a SOG or Scrog, the reflector I bet would flower awesome, for taller plants or bushier foliage, the Mars II would seem most appropriate. I currently am only using the reflector for veg and it is doing a very good job and the Mars II is being used for flowering and my plants are very frosty and looking great under it.
Well its hard to say because they are both used for different purposes, but I can say this.. I am very pleased with both lights. The Mars II does seem to have better penetration but the reflector series seems to blend the light more so if you were doing a SOG or Scrog, the reflector I bet would flower awesome, for taller plants or bushier foliage, the Mars II would seem most appropriate. I currently am only using the reflector for veg and it is doing a very good job and the Mars II is being used for flowering and my plants are very frosty and looking great under it.
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Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
Alright everyone, a quick update of my veg tent. Things are looking really good in the tent and the plants are getting bushier, larger and looking healthier every day. I have continued to do LST on the plants as well as supercropping to really try to maximize the amount of tops that are formed. I believe that my next flower run will be my V-Scrog again, so I am preparing these vegging plants for that.
The ladies were getting a bit dry so 3 days ago I mixed up a bubbling bucket of goodness for my girls. I filled up a 5 gallon bucket with r/o water and added:
30ml of 2-4-0 hydrolyzed fish
40ml of SNS Veg Boost (kelp and other plant extracts)
20ml of 5:1 cal/mag
20 ml of 2-3-1 hydrolyzed squid
30ml of carboload
This mix was bubbled for 48 hours and fed the girls.. I thought the hydrolyzed fish smelled bad but the squid definitely takes the cake for the stinkiest of them all...whao!
I also sprayed the girls with a foliar spray yesterday which was r/o water (about 1/2 gallon) mixed with :
2-4-0 hydrolyzed fish
40ml of SNS pest control.
a few drops of concentrated liquid humic acid
20ml of fulvic acid
20 ml of microblast
2-0-0 cal/mag 3-1
Things are looking great in here and I can't wait a few more weeks to transplant them to bigger pots and move them over to my flowering tent. I really am curious about flowering with the 144x3w, but I will be going completely LED in my flower tent for next grow as well.
I will be adding another Mars II 80x5w (standard spectrum) for the left side and in the middle I either am going to do a custom spectrum 140x5w with spectrum ratio's I developed, or possibly go with a budmaster, Lush or Advanced XML because I want the middle LED to have a different spectrum closer to a full spectrum but adhering to the PAR curve. (more white and various peak wavelength chips used)
If I make my own light and TOP LED can do it, I will be customizing a 140x5w and if they are able make it to spec, this is close to what I would want..
My goal would be to modify a Mars II 140x5w with these specs...
Number of LED/Chips... Color/Wavelength
4 720nm IR chips
15 680-690nm Far Red
30 660nm Deep Red Chips
15 620nm Red Chips
6 580-590 Yellow/Orange Chips
6 490-520 aqua blue/green chips?
15 480/490nm Blue Chips?
10 420/430nm Blue Chips
4 380nm UV chips
20 Warm White Chips 3500K or close
10 Cool White Chips, 6500K or close
5 White 10K or 8K
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This equals 140 total chips.
I am not sure if they have the yellow/orange, aqua blue/ deep purple, UV chips available but if they do this is how I would want it set up. It would be geared towards a heavy red, but full spectrum hitting all the key points for photopigments to be pleased. A lot of LED companies fall short in adding the 490-520nm as well as adding UV, and also adding 580-620 to hit auxillary pigments and UV for added trichome production so I definitely would like to have my middle panel include these key areas...
Either way, I am sure that Top LED will be able to hook it up after their break so I will wait until then to get started with the custom, but for now it may feature another type of light we will see
Well that was much longer of a ramble/post than I expected...Just smoked some of the blue dream I grew a few grows back....it always keeps me up!
Heres some pics!
Alright everyone, a quick update of my veg tent. Things are looking really good in the tent and the plants are getting bushier, larger and looking healthier every day. I have continued to do LST on the plants as well as supercropping to really try to maximize the amount of tops that are formed. I believe that my next flower run will be my V-Scrog again, so I am preparing these vegging plants for that.
The ladies were getting a bit dry so 3 days ago I mixed up a bubbling bucket of goodness for my girls. I filled up a 5 gallon bucket with r/o water and added:
30ml of 2-4-0 hydrolyzed fish
40ml of SNS Veg Boost (kelp and other plant extracts)
20ml of 5:1 cal/mag
20 ml of 2-3-1 hydrolyzed squid
30ml of carboload
This mix was bubbled for 48 hours and fed the girls.. I thought the hydrolyzed fish smelled bad but the squid definitely takes the cake for the stinkiest of them all...whao!
I also sprayed the girls with a foliar spray yesterday which was r/o water (about 1/2 gallon) mixed with :
2-4-0 hydrolyzed fish
40ml of SNS pest control.
a few drops of concentrated liquid humic acid
20ml of fulvic acid
20 ml of microblast
2-0-0 cal/mag 3-1
Things are looking great in here and I can't wait a few more weeks to transplant them to bigger pots and move them over to my flowering tent. I really am curious about flowering with the 144x3w, but I will be going completely LED in my flower tent for next grow as well.
I will be adding another Mars II 80x5w (standard spectrum) for the left side and in the middle I either am going to do a custom spectrum 140x5w with spectrum ratio's I developed, or possibly go with a budmaster, Lush or Advanced XML because I want the middle LED to have a different spectrum closer to a full spectrum but adhering to the PAR curve. (more white and various peak wavelength chips used)
If I make my own light and TOP LED can do it, I will be customizing a 140x5w and if they are able make it to spec, this is close to what I would want..
My goal would be to modify a Mars II 140x5w with these specs...
Number of LED/Chips... Color/Wavelength
4 720nm IR chips
15 680-690nm Far Red
30 660nm Deep Red Chips
15 620nm Red Chips
6 580-590 Yellow/Orange Chips
6 490-520 aqua blue/green chips?
15 480/490nm Blue Chips?
10 420/430nm Blue Chips
4 380nm UV chips
20 Warm White Chips 3500K or close
10 Cool White Chips, 6500K or close
5 White 10K or 8K
______________________
This equals 140 total chips.
I am not sure if they have the yellow/orange, aqua blue/ deep purple, UV chips available but if they do this is how I would want it set up. It would be geared towards a heavy red, but full spectrum hitting all the key points for photopigments to be pleased. A lot of LED companies fall short in adding the 490-520nm as well as adding UV, and also adding 580-620 to hit auxillary pigments and UV for added trichome production so I definitely would like to have my middle panel include these key areas...
Either way, I am sure that Top LED will be able to hook it up after their break so I will wait until then to get started with the custom, but for now it may feature another type of light
we will see Well that was much longer of a ramble/post than I expected...Just smoked some of the blue dream I grew a few grows back....it always keeps me up!
Heres some pics!
woundedvet420
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Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
They make a lot of different wavelength led chips. I spent a lot of time researching how to build my own and the proper wavelength and ratios and I came to the conclusion making your own will cost close to double what you can just buy one for. As for If top led would be able to make your own I'm not sure but definatly worth looking into would be cheaper then just making a DIY
Alright everyone, a quick update of my veg tent. Things are looking really good in the tent and the plants are getting bushier, larger and looking healthier every day. I have continued to do LST on the plants as well as supercropping to really try to maximize the amount of tops that are formed. I believe that my next flower run will be my V-Scrog again, so I am preparing these vegging plants for that.
The ladies were getting a bit dry so 3 days ago I mixed up a bubbling bucket of goodness for my girls. I filled up a 5 gallon bucket with r/o water and added:
30ml of 2-4-0 hydrolyzed fish
40ml of SNS Veg Boost (kelp and other plant extracts)
20ml of 5:1 cal/mag
20 ml of 2-3-1 hydrolyzed squid
30ml of carboload
This mix was bubbled for 48 hours and fed the girls.. I thought the hydrolyzed fish smelled bad but the squid definitely takes the cake for the stinkiest of them all...whao!
I also sprayed the girls with a foliar spray yesterday which was r/o water (about 1/2 gallon) mixed with :
2-4-0 hydrolyzed fish
40ml of SNS pest control.
a few drops of concentrated liquid humic acid
20ml of fulvic acid
20 ml of microblast
2-0-0 cal/mag 3-1
Things are looking great in here and I can't wait a few more weeks to transplant them to bigger pots and move them over to my flowering tent. I really am curious about flowering with the 144x3w, but I will be going completely LED in my flower tent for next grow as well.
I will be adding another Mars II 80x5w (standard spectrum) for the left side and in the middle I either am going to do a custom spectrum 140x5w with spectrum ratio's I developed, or possibly go with a budmaster, Lush or Advanced XML because I want the middle LED to have a different spectrum closer to a full spectrum but adhering to the PAR curve. (more white and various peak wavelength chips used)
If I make my own light and TOP LED can do it, I will be customizing a 140x5w and if they are able make it to spec, this is close to what I would want..
My goal would be to modify a Mars II 140x5w with these specs...
Number of LED/Chips... Color/Wavelength
4 720nm IR chips
15 680-690nm Far Red
30 660nm Deep Red Chips
15 620nm Red Chips
6 580-590 Yellow/Orange Chips
6 490-520 aqua blue/green chips?
15 480/490nm Blue Chips?
10 420/430nm Blue Chips
4 380nm UV chips
20 Warm White Chips 3500K or close
10 Cool White Chips, 6500K or close
5 White 10K or 8K
______________________
This equals 140 total chips.
I am not sure if they have the yellow/orange, aqua blue/ deep purple, UV chips available but if they do this is how I would want it set up. It would be geared towards a heavy red, but full spectrum hitting all the key points for photopigments to be pleased. A lot of LED companies fall short in adding the 490-520nm as well as adding UV, and also adding 580-620 to hit auxillary pigments and UV for added trichome production so I definitely would like to have my middle panel include these key areas...
Either way, I am sure that Top LED will be able to hook it up after their break so I will wait until then to get started with the custom, but for now it may feature another type of light
They make a lot of different wavelength led chips. I spent a lot of time researching how to build my own and the proper wavelength and ratios and I came to the conclusion making your own will cost close to double what you can just buy one for. As for If top led would be able to make your own I'm not sure but definatly worth looking into would be cheaper then just making a DIY
woundedvet420
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Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
That answers the question I needed answered and didn't even think to ask. I've been a lot time reader of yours and doc's grows for quite a while now been very interested in this method but never really tried to learn the science you need to know. I've always been a hydro grower since I first started 8 years ago so I know nothing about growing in soil so trying to take down as many notes as I can. I shut down shop a while back and started to research again and I've decided to try out high brix and scrog for my first time. I had a few questions to ask you but have been trying to wait till I'm allowed to pm you. Just realized how rambling this is and sorry about that.
That answers the question I needed answered and didn't even think to ask. I've been a lot time reader of yours and doc's grows for quite a while now been very interested in this method but never really tried to learn the science you need to know. I've always been a hydro grower since I first started 8 years ago so I know nothing about growing in soil so trying to take down as many notes as I can. I shut down shop a while back and started to research again and I've decided to try out high brix and scrog for my first time. I had a few questions to ask you but have been trying to wait till I'm allowed to pm you. Just realized how rambling this is and sorry about that.
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Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
Yeah I definitely am not going DIY because I don't have the space to build one nor do I have the electrical knowledge, even though I would love to make my own up to my own standards I would love for TOP LED to make one for me and I have already mentioned it to Sara there, but she said they won't be able to do any custom spectrum until after their break early Feb. I really just need to know from her what chips/LED diodes they have available to them as far as color/wavelength but I already figured out generally how I would want the blend to be. I definitely wish I could make my own, but you are definitely correct that it would cost double as a DIY.
Yeah I definitely am not going DIY because I don't have the space to build one nor do I have the electrical knowledge, even though I would love to make my own up to my own standards
I would love for TOP LED to make one for me and I have already mentioned it to Sara there, but she said they won't be able to do any custom spectrum until after their break early Feb. I really just need to know from her what chips/LED diodes they have available to them as far as color/wavelength but I already figured out generally how I would want the blend to be. I definitely wish I could make my own, but you are definitely correct that it would cost double as a DIY.- Thread starter
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Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
So I found a really cool LED Spectrum Simulator and ran my blend mentioned above... Minus the Aqua/blue and yellow orange and IR...it wasn't in the listed choices they had...either way I thought the blend I chose above came out just about right and only lacked in the area's that I didn't get to choose chips/LED's... anyway here is a photo of the output of the blend I would do... I might want to add more warm white LED though...and definitely IR, aqua blue and orange yellow
I didn't know what Milliamp LED they use so I just picked the one that was there, but overall I was pretty impressed how my blend turned out.. very close to what I am looking for
So I found a really cool LED Spectrum Simulator and ran my blend mentioned above... Minus the Aqua/blue and yellow orange and IR...it wasn't in the listed choices they had...either way I thought the blend I chose above came out just about right and only lacked in the area's that I didn't get to choose chips/LED's... anyway here is a photo of the output of the blend I would do... I might want to add more warm white LED though...and definitely IR, aqua blue and orange yellow
I didn't know what Milliamp LED they use so I just picked the one that was there, but overall I was pretty impressed how my blend turned out.. very close to what I am looking for
woundedvet420
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Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
Not sure about the yellows but I know they make all the other wavelengths your looking for. On eBay a 10pk of deep red led 660nm run about $10-12. That spectrum looks great man even after all the research I've done on ratios and proper wavelengths I still could not find any definitive answers as to if your plants need IR or UV but the same goes to finding anything saying it's bad curious to know if your wanting them to match the sun or if there is some scientific reason. I have found that with led you don't really need to match the full spectrum cause there are a few wavelengths that don't benefit the plant at All. I was going to make 6" square panel with 36 less with just the 660nm, 630nm, 450nm, UV and IR. On a different note would you mind once I'm able to pm would you mind if I picked your brain about brix and scrog? Only need a few more posts
So I found a really cool LED Spectrum Simulator and ran my blend mentioned above... Minus the Aqua/blue and yellow orange and IR...it wasn't in the listed choices they had...either way I thought the blend I chose above came out just about right and only lacked in the area's that I didn't get to choose chips/LED's... anyway here is a photo of the output of the blend I would do... I might want to add more warm white LED though...and definitely IR, aqua blue and orange yellow
I didn't know what Milliamp LED they use so I just picked the one that was there, but overall I was pretty impressed how my blend turned out.. very close to what I am looking for
Not sure about the yellows but I know they make all the other wavelengths your looking for. On eBay a 10pk of deep red led 660nm run about $10-12. That spectrum looks great man even after all the research I've done on ratios and proper wavelengths I still could not find any definitive answers as to if your plants need IR or UV but the same goes to finding anything saying it's bad curious to know if your wanting them to match the sun or if there is some scientific reason. I have found that with led you don't really need to match the full spectrum cause there are a few wavelengths that don't benefit the plant at All. I was going to make 6" square panel with 36 less with just the 660nm, 630nm, 450nm, UV and IR. On a different note would you mind once I'm able to pm would you mind if I picked your brain about brix and scrog? Only need a few more posts
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Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
In my opinion I believe plants do use all wavelengths of the sun, just some more than others, at least that is what I believe based on what I have read. I am too tired tonight to go into detail but the reds and blues mainly are used to promote chlorophyl a and chlorophyl b. There are other pigments and processes as well that different wavelenths of light trigger. For example, Phycoerythrin is absorbed at main peaks 495,545,576nm (aqua blue and green/yellow area) in which most LED manufacturers lack coverage which I want to cover. IR is used in the Emerson Effect and UV triggers trichome development and increased terpines. Anyhow even though the reds and blues are the most important, I believe that the right amounts of the other wavelenghts will allow the plants to fully take advantage of their natural processes, the ones we understand, and the ones we don't quite get yet.
I am happy with the spectrum that comes on the Mars II, but I think that I may be more happy if I can design it the way I see fit, and have them build it. I do believe in full spectrum lighting and with my curiosity and facination with lighting, I will be happy if the results when all said an done are what I imagine
For sure you can PM me, I may not get to it today/tonight because I'm about to go to bed, but I will get to it as soon as I log back on Cheers my friend and appreciate you sharing your LED thougts as well.
In my opinion I believe plants do use all wavelengths of the sun, just some more than others, at least that is what I believe based on what I have read. I am too tired tonight to go into detail but the reds and blues mainly are used to promote chlorophyl a and chlorophyl b. There are other pigments and processes as well that different wavelenths of light trigger. For example, Phycoerythrin is absorbed at main peaks 495,545,576nm (aqua blue and green/yellow area) in which most LED manufacturers lack coverage which I want to cover. IR is used in the Emerson Effect and UV triggers trichome development and increased terpines. Anyhow even though the reds and blues are the most important, I believe that the right amounts of the other wavelenghts will allow the plants to fully take advantage of their natural processes, the ones we understand, and the ones we don't quite get yet.
I am happy with the spectrum that comes on the Mars II, but I think that I may be more happy if I can design it the way I see fit, and have them build it. I do believe in full spectrum lighting and with my curiosity and facination with lighting, I will be happy if the results when all said an done are what I imagine
For sure you can PM me, I may not get to it today/tonight because I'm about to go to bed, but I will get to it as soon as I log back on
Cheers my friend and appreciate you sharing your LED thougts as well.woundedvet420
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Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
Anytime with all the info you have provided me and probably will provide me I feel like I need to pay you back so if there is anything I can help with feel free to ask away. Like I said my room is down right now but before I set it up again I wanted to to all the research I can so I could mitigate all the trials and errors spent to much time and money in the past(another reason that I had to shut down). Yay this is my 50th post I can pm now woo-hoo. I know how you feel about the sleep man been dealing with a horrible headache for like 13 hours.... No sleep tonight
In my opinion I believe plants do use all wavelengths of the sun, just some more than others, at least that is what I believe based on what I have read. I am too tired tonight to go into detail but the reds and blues mainly are used to promote chlorophyl a and chlorophyl b. There are other pigments and processes as well that different wavelenths of light trigger. For example, Phycoerythrin is absorbed at main peaks 495,545,576nm (aqua blue and green/yellow area) in which most LED manufacturers lack coverage which I want to cover. IR is used in the Emerson Effect and UV triggers trichome development and increased terpines. Anyhow even though the reds and blues are the most important, I believe that the right amounts of the other wavelenghts will allow the plants to fully take advantage of their natural processes, the ones we understand, and the ones we don't quite get yet.
I am happy with the spectrum that comes on the Mars II, but I think that I may be more happy if I can design it the way I see fit, and have them build it. I do believe in full spectrum lighting and with my curiosity and facination with lighting, I will be happy if the results when all said an done are what I imagine
For sure you can PM me, I may not get to it today/tonight because I'm about to go to bed, but I will get to it as soon as I log back on
Anytime with all the info you have provided me and probably will provide me I feel like I need to pay you back so if there is anything I can help with feel free to ask away. Like I said my room is down right now but before I set it up again I wanted to to all the research I can so I could mitigate all the trials and errors spent to much time and money in the past(another reason that I had to shut down). Yay this is my 50th post I can pm now woo-hoo. I know how you feel about the sleep man been dealing with a horrible headache for like 13 hours.... No sleep tonight
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Re: Icemud Goes LED: Featuring Top LED Grow: Cherry Pie - GSC - OGiesel - SFV OG - UV
Anytime I can help I would be honored to. I learned by also reading others journals and learning through others so I don't mind giving back and offering what I know I still am in trial and error phase too and even though each grow gets better, I also too am still learning and making mistakes here and there. I love growing Marijuana, it really is fun
Anytime I can help I would be honored to. I learned by also reading others journals and learning through others so I don't mind giving back and offering what I know
I still am in trial and error phase too and even though each grow gets better, I also too am still learning and making mistakes here and there. I love growing Marijuana, it really is fun Similar threads
