You can even see it with your current plant. Look at a branch and you'll notice the nodes coming out in one direction opposite each other, then the next pair "rotates" 180° around the stem.
You can even see it with your current plant. Look at a branch and you'll notice the nodes coming out in one direction opposite each other, then the next pair "rotates" 180° around the stem.
To me, when I look at a stem, it is more that the next node is about 120 degrees off from the previous one, so, every 3rd node completes the circle and is above the first one. Then as the plant grows eventually node #6 will be line up above #3 & #1.
This spiral starts when the plant is maturing and we first notice the nodes are no longer appearing as a pair opposite each other. Every branch will start having its own nodes and the entire plant spirals in the same direction. If the buds are large enough one of them can be picked apart and the same pattern is there.
Now my question is whether every plant spirals in the same direction?
p.s.: Edited the part about "the next node is about 60 degrees off from the previous one" to read 120 degrees or 1/3rd of a circle.
To me, when I look at a stem, it is more that the next node is about 60 degrees off from the previous one, so, every 3rd node completes the circle and is above the first one. Then as the plant grows eventually node #6 will be line up above #3 & #1.
You could be right on that. My plants are pretty small and I train them with weights and turn and manipulate them to go where I want and, now that you say that, the nodes don't seem to come out at 90° to each other but I never paid that much attention. I'll look more closely next round.
This spiral starts when the plant is maturing and we first notice the nodes are no longer appearing as a pair opposite each other. Every branch will start having its own nodes and the entire plant spirals in the same direction. If the buds are large enough one of them can be picked apart and the same pattern is there.
I've noticed the spiral starts right out of the gate at the second node which is at about 90° to the first node. This one I do pay attention to since I quadline and the four branches (from a seedling at least) come out in a square, N, S, E, W.
Once those branches start to grow they get trained and the pure form gets lost in the twisting and turning I do so I'm not sure when your 60° turn might start.
Once those branches start to grow they get trained and the pure form gets lost in the twisting and turning I do so I'm not sure when your 60° turn might start.
With a sexually mature plant follow a branch from where it first comes out from the stem in a way that you are tracking each node. In the case of a plant that has been trained pick a stick of buds, pick one of the lowest one and start looking at the pattern as you move your point of view higher up towards the tip.
In the last two photos (the ones that look like they were taken in fog) in the first msg of this thread the pattern shows on the main stalk or stack of buds. Though it is easier to see when looking at a plant in 3 dimensions than it is when looking at a photo in 2 dimensions.