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Autos can do that hey? I’ve seen some DDAs in particular look like nothing much was going to happen ‘till very late and then explode with growth and buds.
Hubba Hubba! Bubba Hash & The Bright Lights Of Redemption: Amy's Indoor v2.0 With DBHBB
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Hi Sue!
Hi Age!
The Candida looks like she’ll be just fine. New growth is a lovely shade of green.
The Kush Auto from Seedsman is a late bloomer too but that Purple Am showed pistils on day 21. I'm not sure if the feed had anything to do with it I accidentally gave her flower the day before. Coincidences...
The unpredictabilities are the fun part!
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Keeps us on our toes! 
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Update: Bubba Hash (day 34) Candida CD-1 (day 33)
Bubba continues to drink fast, very fast. It has needed a drink every 4-5 days and got a Growth Ionic drench a day or so ago. Because it’s drinking so fast they are no longer in sync with each other in terms of the Drenches. Candida CD-1 hadn’t needed anything else since the TP so when Bubba got the GI, the CD-1 got a 1/4 Transwater. This means I didn’t dunk them. I decided after my last grow that I won’t dunk-drench single plants much as it really uses a lot of extra product. It makes sense when there’s a few to do but with only one it seemed more wasteful. If I had a bigger garden and was running a perpetual it would probably be less so.
Both these kids were due for a Brix foliar last night, at lights on, but I was too tired to do it so I’ll do that tonight. This is second run soil and Doc B recommends pushing the Brix foliars to 10days apart (and 14 days apart for 3rd run soil) so I’m not fussed about pushing it to 11days. I managed to fit in an extra DeStress a few days ago so it’s probably good to have left it longer until Brix anyway
Anyhooo - they both continue to look pretty good
Bubba is still tightly stacked but upwards growth is happening. Lower petioles continue to purple a bit while the ones at the very top are nice and green.
In another journal I read recently (can’t remember where. It might’ve been an old one - I’ve been trawling) someone noted that they had grown many Bubba Kush and the petioles always turn purple on the upper side so maybe there’s a genetic factor there as well (BBK being a parent of BBH).
And Bubba from above - after spreading the branches gently outward (which I am doing once every day). I really notice variations in the leaf colour a lot in the photos, kind of mottled on the older fans. This isn’t visible to my naked eyes at all.
Can really see that slightly mottled look on the more mature leaves in this pic.
Candida CD-1 seems to have a triploid or whorl on each stem. I wonder if it will grow out of it
Some of them seem to be growing into it, tho’. This top-view doesn’t show it so well because I had just given the branches their daily gentle bend outwards so the tops haven’t fully turned up again yet.
Nice green petioles too...
Whorlys...
This one seems to be growing into it...
...and maybe this one is growing out of it...
So, they’re both healthy and relatively happy - slight mutations not withstanding.
Environment is stable. I fill the sonic misters once a day and keep the room warm with the RC or the small fireplace. I’ve worked out if I Jeep the parent room around 68-70ºF the tent holds steady about 10º warmer. That will possibly change when I do the light enhancements, but there’s room for things to get a little bit warmer in there.
I have to be careful to only light low level fires in the firebox or things can get too hot very fast. It dries things out a lot too. Can get this room to 28ºC and 25%RH really fast if you light a regular rockin fire in it! I’m getting better at running it low. I lit one a couple of days ago (‘cause it was zeroºC outside and the RC was struggling to get the room warm) and I managed to get it to 81-82ºF in the tent with 58% RH. We have some more really cold nights coming this week so hopefully I can reproduce that! My mission this grow was to achieve a stable environment and that’s happening so I’m really pleased.
I’ll update all the autos in a seperate post but first, from above, here’s the whole clan - before I spread out the BH and CD-1. The DDAs are up top in their 1gal DBHBB Pots, BH & CD-1 in the middle and the 2 Dope Seeds’ autos in Coco AirPots at the bottom.
More on the babies in a minute
Bubba continues to drink fast, very fast. It has needed a drink every 4-5 days and got a Growth Ionic drench a day or so ago. Because it’s drinking so fast they are no longer in sync with each other in terms of the Drenches. Candida CD-1 hadn’t needed anything else since the TP so when Bubba got the GI, the CD-1 got a 1/4 Transwater. This means I didn’t dunk them. I decided after my last grow that I won’t dunk-drench single plants much as it really uses a lot of extra product. It makes sense when there’s a few to do but with only one it seemed more wasteful. If I had a bigger garden and was running a perpetual it would probably be less so.
Both these kids were due for a Brix foliar last night, at lights on, but I was too tired to do it so I’ll do that tonight. This is second run soil and Doc B recommends pushing the Brix foliars to 10days apart (and 14 days apart for 3rd run soil) so I’m not fussed about pushing it to 11days. I managed to fit in an extra DeStress a few days ago so it’s probably good to have left it longer until Brix anyway
Anyhooo - they both continue to look pretty good
Bubba is still tightly stacked but upwards growth is happening. Lower petioles continue to purple a bit while the ones at the very top are nice and green.
In another journal I read recently (can’t remember where. It might’ve been an old one - I’ve been trawling) someone noted that they had grown many Bubba Kush and the petioles always turn purple on the upper side so maybe there’s a genetic factor there as well (BBK being a parent of BBH).
And Bubba from above - after spreading the branches gently outward (which I am doing once every day). I really notice variations in the leaf colour a lot in the photos, kind of mottled on the older fans. This isn’t visible to my naked eyes at all.
Can really see that slightly mottled look on the more mature leaves in this pic.
Candida CD-1 seems to have a triploid or whorl on each stem. I wonder if it will grow out of it
Some of them seem to be growing into it, tho’. This top-view doesn’t show it so well because I had just given the branches their daily gentle bend outwards so the tops haven’t fully turned up again yet.Nice green petioles too...
Whorlys...
This one seems to be growing into it...
...and maybe this one is growing out of it...
So, they’re both healthy and relatively happy - slight mutations not withstanding.
Environment is stable. I fill the sonic misters once a day and keep the room warm with the RC or the small fireplace. I’ve worked out if I Jeep the parent room around 68-70ºF the tent holds steady about 10º warmer. That will possibly change when I do the light enhancements, but there’s room for things to get a little bit warmer in there.
I have to be careful to only light low level fires in the firebox or things can get too hot very fast. It dries things out a lot too. Can get this room to 28ºC and 25%RH really fast if you light a regular rockin fire in it! I’m getting better at running it low. I lit one a couple of days ago (‘cause it was zeroºC outside and the RC was struggling to get the room warm) and I managed to get it to 81-82ºF in the tent with 58% RH. We have some more really cold nights coming this week so hopefully I can reproduce that! My mission this grow was to achieve a stable environment and that’s happening so I’m really pleased.
I’ll update all the autos in a seperate post but first, from above, here’s the whole clan - before I spread out the BH and CD-1. The DDAs are up top in their 1gal DBHBB Pots, BH & CD-1 in the middle and the 2 Dope Seeds’ autos in Coco AirPots at the bottom.
More on the babies in a minute
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Update: The Autos (day 9-11)
Growing different kinds of plants in different ways imposes some Tetris-like activities while working out how to arrange things. I’m still experimenting with how and what I’m growing and realising that where and how I place things in the tent is something that can take a while to work out.
I now have both the Dark Devil Auto pots raised on some upturned pots that got them a bit closer to the lights again which I think is helping them sort out their photosynthesis issues (well, on the 3 that had some). They’re now getting 14000-15000 lux and seem good with that.
The d#4s had both faded or bleached (whatever the phenomena is - it’s so obviously to do with light because you can see that the cotyledons are still fully green). Last night when the tent woke up they were visibly improved.
Days 9-10:
I love the way this angle shows how intense the light is.
That was shortly after lights-on and about 14hrs later, towards the end of their day, I had good confirmation that they’re really happy and praying to the light.
Days 10-11
Only one d#3 faded/bleached and the other stayed perfectly green. I have decided that this phenomena is to do with light intensity changing dramatically in those first few days above ground. That’s my current theory in any case. Both times I’ve had this happen it’s been after something changed significantly with the light.
Anyhoo, d#3s also had a great day. Here’s them at lights-on last night (all the DDAs got a tiny dribble of 1/4 transwater last night - just keeping things even).
And then this morning after a tent day of noticeable growth
The Coco Kids
It’s challenging getting the watering right when growing an auto in coco, cause you start in the finish container and that makes it difficult to keep the medium wet without overwhelming a small seedling. I have oversoaked the medium a bit once or twice but am getting it to the sweet spot now.
Much less water than I think - that’s the ticket!. I’m using 1/4strength solutions for fertigation and will likely keep it there until I get signs the plants need more. I’m using BioVega by Canna nutrients. I’m actually mixing at only half the standard recommendation for seedling/early veg because the recommended amount is for use in Canna’s own soil/coco mix which is amended (CannaTerra - I’m not using that). They say to double the doses if you’re using the BioVega/Flores in an unamended medium like coco or DWC hydro etc. So in coco, 1/2 strength is 1/4 strength if that makes sense.
I’m reading over lots of journals and guides about working with Coco Coir and am feeling like I’ll work something out that is good for the plants and works for me. I’m alternating currently between gently soaking the whole pot to run off and just giving a little in a ring around the plant. The pics below show them a little too wet at first (drooping a little) and then much happier after a day.
Auto Amnesia Haze at lights-on last night, a bit too wet, it was droopier than it looks in the pic :
And happier this morning near the end of lights-on:
Once I have what I’m aiming for with watering tech dialled in a bit, I’ll post some of the helpful details I’ve collected while reading. There there are definitely some rules to doing the passive hydro thing but there is also quite a lot of scope for different approaches, all of which seem to work for different folks in different circumstances so it’s just a matter of working out what’s going to be good here.
Auto Blueberry bounced back from the fade/bleach phenomena really fast. It was also a little ‘too-wet’ droopy last night at lights-on ...
...and also much perkier this morning after a long day under QBs
These 2 are also getting about 14000-15000lux
Speaking of plant-Tetris and how one arranges and positions plants in a space, this whole setup may need a big re-arrange very soon. Ironic, since I just got it to this arrangement a few days ago and I’m quite happy with it - everyone seems good under the light and everyone gets hit by the fan.
However, I really need to get the soil cooking tote out of the way (in my room) and @weenmeoff suggested putting it in the tent and putting the plants on top. I’ve previously considered this for in the future but didn’t think I’d be able to do it for this time. Because ween mentioned it again, I reconsidered and will try to get a friend or a helper around to help me do it. Thanks ween! I just need to configure how I’m going to set it all up before I do that, so that everything is ready to go and the plants have the least disturbance possible. A few days of measuring heights and scouring the shed for the useful bits and pieces that will make it possible will be needed.
I had considered the alternative of just filling the 2 big pots ready and keeping them in the tent until transplant (at least 4+ weeks away). This wouldn’t be ideal but the DBHBB brains trust said it was possible (so long as it doesnt dry out etc.). Then I realised that I’m planning to also get 2 smaller 3gal pots of HBB soil put of that half batch, so that plan just ain’t gonna work.
Best plan will be ween’s suggestion of putting the tote in the tent. I’ll use some marine-grade formply board on top to make a table. That will actually help to keep all the rootzones a bit warmer too. The mass of cooking soil will be a nice thermal store
Funny, having decided to do it - I just want to do it now! But physically I can’t, so I have to be patient.
I’ll dedicate my enthusiasm to finding great things in my shed with which to execute the plan! Then when help comes I’ll be ready to go.
That’s a really long post about a few seedlings
. I’m still quite a novice when it comes to germinating and starting plants indoors so there’s a lot to think about!
Thanks all for the beautiful and supportive company along the way. There’s no substitute for the growing companionship we get to share here I trust that if anyone sees or reads something that doesn’t seem right, or seems ill-advised that they will speak up!
Growing different kinds of plants in different ways imposes some Tetris-like activities while working out how to arrange things. I’m still experimenting with how and what I’m growing and realising that where and how I place things in the tent is something that can take a while to work out.
I now have both the Dark Devil Auto pots raised on some upturned pots that got them a bit closer to the lights again which I think is helping them sort out their photosynthesis issues (well, on the 3 that had some). They’re now getting 14000-15000 lux and seem good with that.
The d#4s had both faded or bleached (whatever the phenomena is - it’s so obviously to do with light because you can see that the cotyledons are still fully green). Last night when the tent woke up they were visibly improved.
Days 9-10:
I love the way this angle shows how intense the light is.
That was shortly after lights-on and about 14hrs later, towards the end of their day, I had good confirmation that they’re really happy and praying to the light.
Days 10-11
Only one d#3 faded/bleached and the other stayed perfectly green. I have decided that this phenomena is to do with light intensity changing dramatically in those first few days above ground. That’s my current theory in any case. Both times I’ve had this happen it’s been after something changed significantly with the light.
Anyhoo, d#3s also had a great day. Here’s them at lights-on last night (all the DDAs got a tiny dribble of 1/4 transwater last night - just keeping things even).
And then this morning after a tent day of noticeable growth
The Coco Kids
It’s challenging getting the watering right when growing an auto in coco, cause you start in the finish container and that makes it difficult to keep the medium wet without overwhelming a small seedling. I have oversoaked the medium a bit once or twice but am getting it to the sweet spot now.
Much less water than I think - that’s the ticket!
. I’m using 1/4strength solutions for fertigation and will likely keep it there until I get signs the plants need more. I’m using BioVega by Canna nutrients. I’m actually mixing at only half the standard recommendation for seedling/early veg because the recommended amount is for use in Canna’s own soil/coco mix which is amended (CannaTerra - I’m not using that). They say to double the doses if you’re using the BioVega/Flores in an unamended medium like coco or DWC hydro etc. So in coco, 1/2 strength is 1/4 strength if that makes sense.I’m reading over lots of journals and guides about working with Coco Coir and am feeling like I’ll work something out that is good for the plants and works for me. I’m alternating currently between gently soaking the whole pot to run off and just giving a little in a ring around the plant. The pics below show them a little too wet at first (drooping a little) and then much happier after a day.
Auto Amnesia Haze at lights-on last night, a bit too wet, it was droopier than it looks in the pic
:And happier this morning near the end of lights-on:
Once I have what I’m aiming for with watering tech dialled in a bit, I’ll post some of the helpful details I’ve collected while reading. There there are definitely some rules to doing the passive hydro thing but there is also quite a lot of scope for different approaches, all of which seem to work for different folks in different circumstances so it’s just a matter of working out what’s going to be good here.
Auto Blueberry bounced back from the fade/bleach phenomena really fast. It was also a little ‘too-wet’ droopy last night at lights-on ...
...and also much perkier this morning after a long day under QBs
These 2 are also getting about 14000-15000lux
Speaking of plant-Tetris and how one arranges and positions plants in a space, this whole setup may need a big re-arrange very soon. Ironic, since I just got it to this arrangement a few days ago and I’m quite happy with it - everyone seems good under the light and everyone gets hit by the fan.
However, I really need to get the soil cooking tote out of the way (in my room) and @weenmeoff suggested putting it in the tent and putting the plants on top. I’ve previously considered this for in the future but didn’t think I’d be able to do it for this time. Because ween mentioned it again, I reconsidered and will try to get a friend or a helper around to help me do it. Thanks ween! I just need to configure how I’m going to set it all up before I do that, so that everything is ready to go and the plants have the least disturbance possible. A few days of measuring heights and scouring the shed for the useful bits and pieces that will make it possible will be needed.
I had considered the alternative of just filling the 2 big pots ready and keeping them in the tent until transplant (at least 4+ weeks away). This wouldn’t be ideal but the DBHBB brains trust said it was possible (so long as it doesnt dry out etc.). Then I realised that I’m planning to also get 2 smaller 3gal pots of HBB soil put of that half batch, so that plan just ain’t gonna work.
Best plan will be ween’s suggestion of putting the tote in the tent. I’ll use some marine-grade formply board on top to make a table. That will actually help to keep all the rootzones a bit warmer too. The mass of cooking soil will be a nice thermal store
Funny, having decided to do it - I just want to do it now! But physically I can’t, so I have to be patient.
I’ll dedicate my enthusiasm to finding great things in my shed with which to execute the plan! Then when help comes I’ll be ready to go.
That’s a really long post about a few seedlings
. I’m still quite a novice when it comes to germinating and starting plants indoors so there’s a lot to think about!Thanks all for the beautiful and supportive company along the way. There’s no substitute for the growing companionship we get to share here
I trust that if anyone sees or reads something that doesn’t seem right, or seems ill-advised that they will speak up!
Happy to help. Wish I could fly over and help you move the totes.....maybe get a little surfing in, ha! Seedlings a look good!
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Great update, Amy! Looks like you're keeping pretty busy this winter - no "off season" for you!
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Thanks Luiz! Mostly I don’t have to do anything so that’s good. My off season is always short breaks between outdoor and indoor these days. Although now I’m thinking about having a veg space so I can get 2 rounds going next year, maybe an auto run on long lights, crossingover with some photo-flowering ones to follow... there’s a plan brewing.
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Just for the record
the DBHBB kids got their Brix foliar last night at lights-on. 1ml Brix into about 30ml of rainwater in a misting spray bottle. I was able to use nearly all of it without overspraying them which is great as it means less waste. Brix is not something you can just put on anything and you can’t keep it so the leftover just gets thrown onto the grass. Last night was an experiment to see how little I could get away with mixing up. Success!
Happy to help. Wish I could fly over and help you move the totes.....maybe get a little surfing in, ha! Seedlings a look good!
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Just for the record
the DBHBB kids got their Brix foliar last night at lights-on. 1ml Brix into about 30ml of rainwater in a misting spray bottle. I was able to use nearly all of it without overspraying them which is great as it means less waste. Brix is not something you can just put on anything and you can’t keep it so the leftover just gets thrown onto the grass. Last night was an experiment to see how little I could get away with mixing up. Success!
Hey Amy, Howz it? I'm liking your plan and I'm thinking that's gonna be a plan for me too. I've got one plant outside with the potential to hit 2 meters and I think next year I'll plan to plant two, maybe 3, Northern Lights out there. I've already got the clones cloning and I'm happy with my first 3/4 out door grow.
Everything starts inside with me, know what I mean?
Can't wait to see how your Auto's grow! Looking great!
Everything starts inside with me, know what I mean?
Can't wait to see how your Auto's grow! Looking great!
Can I speak up anyway? I think it looks great and you seem to have fixed all the earlier seedling issues! I got nuttin' but praise.
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That’s absolutely legit - they’re the best ones!speak up anyway? I think it looks great and you seem to have fixed all the earlier seedling issues! I got nuttin' but praise.
Seedlings are almost green again.My outdoor is always it’s own run. I may try starting some a bit earlier this year - we’ll see. And I may do the moving out from inside thing. It’s fraught with daberg tho, you really have to make sure the indoor veg light hours are short so moving them isn’t a trigger for bloom.
The double run plan with autos into photos i’m thinking about is for the tent next year - indoor only. I figure i’ll run some autos, when they’re a month or so out, plant the photos and then flip the lights to flower out the photos... Just gotta make sure everything is gonna have room at the appropriate times. But I think i can get it to work - even without a seperate veg station.
I love plannin’ A few northern lights in that spot you have one now is a great idea. Nice hedge of colas you could make there!
Oh yeahEverything starts inside with me, know what I mean?
I usually just do the perpetual inside and now that I've got the QB, I can run that tent year round, so cool (temps). Obv, the outdoor runs are gonna be a one off, start when you can and they finish when 'mom' tells them to. Looks like I'm all set for the foreseeable future. I'm cloning again, and it'll be nice to have all plants in veg for a while, just a couple bottles of mixed veg feed at different stages & smaller containers to water. I may switch to soil for the the rest of the summer and then transplant into coco a couple few weeks before flower. I wonder how many times I'll change my mind about the next few months of growing.
Would you believe I'm supposed to harvest another plant today? It's not happening but I just wanted to mention that...
Would you believe I'm supposed to harvest another plant today? It's not happening but I just wanted to mention that...
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“...tied stick...” Blast from the past!
LOL! He shoulda handed him peppercorns
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Does that work for Acid tho’?
oooooh Acid. You'll be wanting to grow Marigolds I believe. I think you can get a similar affect with tea made from those flowers. Although psilocybin would be your best bet, in my limited experience. I've never tried the Marigold thing, just heard about it, so if you're gonna try it study up! I have a California Pepper Tree and a pepper grinder, however the two have never met and likely won't. Those plastic containers seems to move with my most treasured belongings...
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