How to grow in Coco: Feed schedule

Hi I was curious you have your nutrient schedule listed using ppm's I do not have a PPM meter I have been using teaspoons per gallon any way you could translate the PPM to teaspoons per gallon I'm using General Hydroponics Flora grow with a nine week schedule

Cultivator said:
Hey everyone.

Ive been growing for a long time now and mostly coco. Ive grown literally thousands and thousands of plants so here i will dedicaye a thread to growing in coco.

Please ask questions, i will always answer. No question is stupid, if you dont know then you dont know.

I will start by adding this feeding schedule. There are variations and more ways to do it but this will 100% give quality results.


Here is the Coco schedule. Remember its a guide, no substitute for knowing plants needs.


Ive had a lot of questions on nutrients recently so im going to list a full nute schedule that i use for Coco and Hydro growing. Im not going to list a soil feed schedule because there are variables that could affect what nutrients are used. Also 99% of my growing is hydroponic and I include coco in that so I will advise on what I do to get top results.

Before I make the list be aware that nutrients are way less important than light source and environment. I know alot of people grow on a tight budget but dont skip on a good light source. The video I posted yesterday explains about minimum requirements for growing and why. You want minimum 400w actual draw for a 4x4 square foot area (1x1m), yes you can grow with less but i'm not interested in growing weed with a torch or a 200w draw LED that claims to be a 600w equivalent. If you are growing even one plant make it the best it can be, its a long process to grow. Dont settle for an oz or 2 every 3 months as its wasted time and money when you can x6 that minimum just by using the correct source. A 400w hps would be the minimum requirement for me and my feed schedule represents a grow using adequate light. It stands to reason that a plant with less light will need less nutrient, just like a standard car will need less fuel than a Bugatti Veron.

So with all that said here are the schedules. You can omit anything you like additive wise but base nutrient is the most important. These are recipes that work for me and will vary depending on the quality of the water but anyone using water that is no higher than 0.7ec (350ppm) or using RO water should work. Of course try to never use tap water higher than 0.4ec (200ppm) if it can be helped.

The schedules will be based on 9 week strains, if running 8 week strains just finish nutes a week earlier. I never grow strains longer than 9 weeks now but a 10 week strain you would add 1 more week of the final boost. Strains over that will be different mix and I wont touch on that today.

I have got to these recipes over 15 years or so growing. Im not saying this is the only way but you will not fail if you follow these recipes and have adequate light source and environment.

My schedules will go off using RO water so a starting water of 0 EC (0 PPM) This will make it easier, you can omit calmag if water is of good quality and 0.3ec+ usually but its worth having incase it needs to be dded. If using water of 0.3 ec (150ppm) for example you would add that value to the value of feed i suggest. So if I suggest 1.0 ec of nutes you would add 0.3ec on to that making 1.3ec. Also the values will add up so for example if its 0.3 calmag and i add base nutrient then add it on to the 0.3ec. so if i say base up to 1.0ec that includes the 0.3 of calmag, in other words 0.7ec of base nutrient.

Finally a good EC/PPM meter is really important as is a good PH Pen, they will help you know exactly what is going into the nutrient mix and will be a valuable tool for diagnosing any possible problems. Never go off what the bottle recommends especially for anything that effects EC/PPMs.

RECIPE FOR COCO COIR.....

SEEDLINGS....

Jiffy pellets/root riot cubes/rockwool

Calmag (optional, use if water is RO) 0.1ec (50ppm)
SuperVit 1 drop/4litres water
H+G Roots Excellurator Gold 0.3ml/litre
Great White mycorrhizae 1 scoop/4 litres
PH 5.5-5.8

Soak the cubes or pellets in the solution and wring out so damp and not wet, add the seedling. this mix will get the rooting started quickly and produce strong hairy roots. I transplant into a 1-3 litre pot as soon as the tap root comes out the bottom of the cube.


FIRST TRANSPLANT

Great White mycorrhizae sprinkled in the hole where cube will be placed or onto the cube itself.
CalMag 0.3ec (150ppm)
Advanced Nutrients PH Perfect Micro Grow Bloom 1.0ec (500ppm) This is approximately 2ml/litre.
Roots Excellurator 0.3ml/litre
SuperVit 1drop/4liitres
Advanced Nutrients VooDoo Juice 2ml/litre (once per week)

PH 5.8

SECOND TRANSPLANT.....

Great White Mycorrhizae sprinkled in hole for transplant or direct onto rootzone
CalMag 0.3ec (150ppm)
Advanced Nutrient PH Perfect Micro Grow Bloom 1.2-1.4ec (600-700ppm)
SuperVit 1drop/4litres
Roots Excellurator 0.3ml/litre
Advanced Nutrients Voodoo juice 2ml/litre (once per week)

FLOWER PERIOD (START OF 12/12)

WEEK 1

Calmag 0.3ec (150ppm)
Ionic Coco Bloom 1.4ec (700ppm)
Buddhas Tree Flower Burst 0.25ml/litre
Advanced Nutrients Voodoo juice 2ml/litre
Roots Excellurator 0.3ml/litre
Great White mycorrhizae 1scoop/10 litres
Advanced Nutrients sensizym 2ml/litre or Cannazym 2.5ml/litre

PH5.8-6.0

WEEK 2

Calmag 0.3ec (150ppm)
Ionic Coco Bloom 1.4ec (700ppm)
Buddhas Tree Flower Burst 0.25ml/litre
Advanced Nutrients Voodoo juice 2ml/litre
Roots Excellurator 0.3ml/litre
Great White mycorrhizae 1scoop/10 litres
Advanced Nutrients Sensizym 2ml/litre or Cannazym 2.5ml/litre

PH 5.8-6.0

WEEK 3

CalMag 0.3ec (150ppm)
Ionic Coco Bloom 1.5-1.6ec (750-800ppm)
Buddhas Tree Flower Burst 0.25ml/litre
Sensizym 2ml/litre or Cannazym 2.5ml/litre

PH 5.8-6.0

WEEK 4 and WEEK 5

CalMag 0.3ec (150ppm)
Ionic Coco Bloom 1.6ec (800ppm)
Buddhas Tree PK 0.25ml/litre
Buddhas Tree Advanced Metaboost 1ml/litre
Sensizym 2ml/litre or Cannazym 2.5ml/litre

PH 5.8-6.0

WEEK 6

CalMag 0.3ml/litre (150ppm)
Ionic Coco Bloom 1.6ec (800ppm)
Buddhas Tree Pk 0.5ml/litre
Buddhas Tree Advanced Metaboost 1-2ml/litre
Great White mycorrhizae 1 scoop/10litres

PH5.8-6.0

WEEK 7

CalMag 0.3ec (150ppm)
Ionic Coco Bloom 1.6ec (800ppm)
Plagron Green Sensation 1.8ec (900ppm) (can use Buddhas tree PK and metaboost as in week 6)

PH5.8-6.0

WEEK 8

CalMag 0.3ec (150ppm)
Ionic Coco Bloom 1.8ec (900ppm)
Plagron Green Sensation 2.0ec (1000ppm) (can use Buddhas tree PK and metaboost as in week 6)

PH 5.8-6.0

WEEK 9

First water to 50% run off.
Allow to dry until pots light to lift.
Water only daily. Enough so that its ready for more 24 hours later. DO NOT KEEP DRENCHED. Biggest chance of bud rot is now.
Flushing will clean excess salts and increase both yield and quality as it forces plants to finish.
Only water until harvest, minimum 7 days water.




Hydro is exactly the same as above with 3 changes.

1st replace Ionic Coco Bloom with Ionic Hydro Bloom

2nd Base nutrient EC/PPM at each feed can be pushed an extra 0.2ec/100ppm if required

3rd PH should be between 5.5-6.0 throughout.


In Recirculating Hydro PH swings are normal, allow some fluctuation as its better for plants to have a good range to uptake nutes. Set it at the lower end and allow it to increase. If it goes over 6.0 readjust to 5.8.



The recipe above is just one recipe that works well. Once you understand the plants needs at each period of growth you can adjust the feeds as going week by week isnt the most accurate way to do it but 100% this baseline recipe will give great results.

Finally in Coco and Hydro plants must be fed daily at least once per day. Do not keep media saturated ever. For Coco give enough liquid so plants are ready to be fed again 24 hours later when hand feeding. So plants should be light to lift but not completely dried out to the point of leaves wilting. Never allow it to dry out completely as the salts in the Media will burn the roots.


I hope this helps and if anyone wants alternatives to any products just ask.

Peace.
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Hi Cultivator. Just curious about the biobizz. Winter Garden Rescue . Just curious if the complete nutrients pack from biobizz will help me on my way. I hope you enjoy my journey!!!! NOOB over and out!!
 
Davidfnh17 said:
Hi I was curious you have your nutrient schedule listed using ppm's I do not have a PPM meter I have been using teaspoons per gallon any way you could translate the PPM to teaspoons per gallon I'm using General Hydroponics Flora grow with a nine week schedule
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No. I mean a teaspoon is around 5ml but ml/l or what ever isnt an accurate way to measure. Its just guess work. Id strongky suggest you invest in a ppm/ec meter. They arent expensive and then you can be accurate in your feeds going in and if there is ever a problem you have an accurate reference point.
 
Alright cult just a quick one should o not feed veg nutes for first 2 weeks of flower because they crave nitrogen for the first 2 weeks or has ionic bloom got enough in ot for the stretch faze?
 
Cultivator is the man!!! I'm listening to him for my first Coco experience
 
Zebo2018 said:
Alright cult just a quick one should o not feed veg nutes for first 2 weeks of flower because they crave nitrogen for the first 2 weeks or has ionic bloom got enough in ot for the stretch faze?
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Straight on to bloom nutes the day of flip. It will charge the coco with the correct ratio of macro nutrients for flower. Providing your plants are healthy when you flip you shouldnt need any addition N added. All bloom base nutes will have some N in there as its still used throughout bloom, just in smaller quantities. You can liken N P K to fat, protein and carbohydrate in a human diet, we need all 3 but depending what the demand we put on our body we need them in different ratios at different times but you should never cut one out completely as it will eventually lead to death. In the case of N for flower there will be enough in the ionic bloom and if you are using calmag that also is high in nitrogen. If your are using calmag stop use at end week 4.

Sorry long winded answer to a yes or no question lol.
 
Cultivator said:
Straight on to bloom nutes the day of flip. It will charge the coco with the correct ratio of macro nutrients for flower. Providing your plants are healthy when you flip you shouldnt need any addition N added. All bloom base nutes will have some N in there as its still used throughout bloom, just in smaller quantities. You can liken N P K to fat, protein and carbohydrate in a human diet, we need all 3 but depending what the demand we put on our body we need them in different ratios at different times but you should never cut one out completely as it will eventually lead to death. In the case of N for flower there will be enough in the ionic bloom and if you are using calmag that also is high in nitrogen. If your are using calmag stop use at end week 4.

Sorry long winded answer to a yes or no question lol.
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No apology needed i am using cal mag so i should stop it in week 4 of flower?
 
Yeah providing its a 8-10 week flower period.
 
Its too heavy on the nitrogen and the plants by this point should have enough reserves to finish the grow. Alot of base nutes will have some cal and mag in them. The focus past week 4 is to get the plant taking uo the p/k . On a 9 week flower this only leaves 3-4 weeks of feeds left before hitting only water.
 
Yeah. It gives real healthy plants in coco but like everything else its know when to give things, why and for how long. Your plants should never be green on harvest and they will be if you continue to use calmag. In some instances you can use calmag as the veg nute, thats how heavy it is on N.
 
Only coco. I n3ver use soil in any form in any of my grows. Its the worst medium to grow in for cannabis. Many better ways to do it and coco is the best.
 
Yo cult. Hope ur well brother!! Spent a good few weeks reading your threads and shit man.. u know ur stuff . finally got a chance to give it a go so I'm currently week 3 into veg with some clones I was given (gsc, ammo haze, and crack cheese) using all nutes you listed to correct ec and ph etc. Girls are all looking very well although I'm struggling to still find the correct volume of feed for the gsc (Girl Scout cookies) no matter how little I feed they show signs of overfeed within 2 hours and lasts for around 10-12 hrs then they perk back up.. no difference in growth tho compared c to others so not majorly bothered but I do wonder why? Growing in 16l fabrics, 600w hps, 24 degrees constant day, 20 nite and after using Great White my roots were mental before 2nd transplant 10ish days ago so I know I got sufficient roots for sure!

Anyway mate I got a couple questions for you...

On the feed list on page 1 does flower feed start on day of flip to 12/12 or when flowers actually start 10-14 days later? If waiting for flowers to show what feed do you recommend until then? Will it just b a continuation of the veg feed from 2nd transplant?

What are your views on Bud Blood during the first 10-14 day?

When HEAVY defoliating in late veg how long must I wait until flipping to 12/12? I.e how long for the plant to fully heal and be back to normal growth rate..

I have some nutes from a previous run I'd like to use rather than waste.. what are your views on h&g a and b for coco? And can I use Big Bud inplace of flower burst and Overdrive instead of buddahs tree pk? Will have them used in one run so will replace with buddahs tree next time if you recommend. Also if I can use Overdrive can I still run it with metaboost and can I use it for 3 weeks even tho AN recommend 2 weeks? I was thinking low strength for 2 weeks then higher strength for the third..

Last ask is if you could guide me to a decent thread for a proper harvest after flush.. as in Trimming (hang whole plant? Trim fan leaves only? Trimming during flush?)
Environment of dry room (darkness, humidity, extraction, air movement, how long)
PROPER Cure (how long in jars? Stems and stalks on or off? Best results for taste and smoke?)
It's a lot to ask mate I know but I see you help many guys out so hope you can help me too. The last part about harvest can obviously wait as I'm weeks away from that yet but maybe that's summat else you could add to ur already mad schedule. Would make great read lol

Peace out bro and stay safe .
 
Welcome mate.

Pleased you have gained something from my many failures, as ultimatelt i learned more from my fuck ups than i ever did when things went right.

So the feed schedule is a guide, no different from any guide that comes with any nute company. The only difference is that i mix different brabds and no company will ever do that, with the exception of Buddhas Tree as they recommend base nutes from diff companies but thats only because they dont produce one. Now as a guide it will need tweaked to your grow and i truly cant comment on you gsc without having way more info and pics. However if its picking up and is looking healthy dont worry. The schedule is a guide as i say and may not be perfectly suited for every strain. I am constantly tweaking and evolving what i do and nothing is set in stone. Remember your grow environment is way more important than this feed schedule, this schedule is for optimal conditions.

I start my bloom feed on day 1 of 12/12. I consider that the start of flower period. Ive tried different ways of introducing bloom nutes and the way i list on page 1 is what gives the best results for me.

I havent used bud blood so i cant comment, you will have to try for yourself and find out.

You can swap any supplement for any like for like but whether it has the same overall result you will have to see. I swear by Buddhas Tree products. Im not affiliated to any company, i wish i was because my nutes bills are mental on a yearly basis. I just share what ive found and Buddhas Tree are the only complete products id use andcwhen you look at what they sell it makes sense and is no where near as confusing as AN products.

I do a heavy prune 2 or 3 days before flip. But this must be done on healthy plants. When you flip your plants go into a superdrive of growth and they will recover and grow quickly if your plants are healthy and environment is optimal.

For harvest make sure you flush plain water at least 7 full daya, it will not only clean shit out of plants but will boost yield and quality guaranteed. I wet trim and hang branches in a dark room between 16-19c with lots air flow and humidity set at 50-55rh. A proper cure takes months and environmental control is crucial just like a fine cognac to a regular brandy, it can come down to the tiniest detail. But we will go into it when you are at that stage of work.


One day i might write a book, i may even include some stories in it on living the life as a cultivator but for now 420 will do....

Peace.
 
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