How to: Simple Hydroponics

you capn im a dick you asked me some questions i found them yesterday and lost what thread they were in and im such a motard i forgot the questions too but on the subject of simple hydro ive been into high brix for a while and while i believe heart n soul its the ultimate im taking a brix break till spring i have 2 cu ft of brix purpose built coco/soil cooking till im ready im gonna go back to my old tried n true coco passive with the abundance of nutes i have they always kiked ass and grew me beast plants, but i was wondering what you thought of passive hydro with the 50 lb sack of hydroton i have do you think it would work if i filled a smart pot with hydroton and top fed by hand run to waste , or should i chow mix it with coco i just blew up a block of cocotek and its not enough to fill 2 5gal & 2 7gal smartpots so i need to bulk it with something im out of pearlite, and garden lime and azomite wont bulk it enough, im broke till next month i wanna try your mini cube thing with smarties and the banned nutes but im about to flip all my tents around going back to dual 600s over and scrapin the vert not enough room floor wise but plenty of height in a 7 ft tent, veg tent is gonna become a scrog with the 400 or maybe ill use the 400 with a 600 and put the other 600 over the scrog the led tent will be veg after it finishes up this flower run, eventually im going all led need 3 more of the leds i have right now, whats your take on all this,?? im gonna sub up to this thread, but your welcome to come spit your answers ideas etc in my journal its the one with the awesome urkle *wink* you gotta see this plant, heres a teaser
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you capn im a dick you asked me some questions i found them yesterday and lost what thread they were in and im such a motard i forgot the questions too but on the subject of simple hydro ive been into high brix for a while and while i believe heart n soul its the ultimate im taking a brix break till spring i have 2 cu ft of brix purpose built coco/soil cooking till im ready im gonna go back to my old tried n true coco passive with the abundance of nutes i have they always kiked ass and grew me beast plants, but i was wondering what you thought of passive hydro with the 50 lb sack of hydroton i have do you think it would work if i filled a smart pot with hydroton and top fed by hand run to waste , or should i chow mix it with coco i just blew up a block of cocotek and its not enough to fill 2 5gal & 2 7gal smartpots so i need to bulk it with something im out of pearlite, and garden lime and azomite wont bulk it enough, im broke till next month i wanna try your mini cube thing with smarties and the banned nutes but im about to flip all my tents around going back to dual 600s over and scrapin the vert not enough room floor wise but plenty of height in a 7 ft tent, veg tent is gonna become a scrog with the 400 or maybe ill use the 400 with a 600 and put the other 600 over the scrog the led tent will be veg after it finishes up this flower run, eventually im going all led need 3 more of the leds i have right now, whats your take on all this,?? im gonna sub up to this thread, but your welcome to come spit your answers ideas etc in my journal its the one with the awesome urkle *wink* you gotta see this plant, heres a teaser

BID, I just noticed you posted on this thread; I apologize for missing your post.. Your purple urkle is beautiful. I thought about growing it before but it is too slow for me.

I tired to make sense of this post, but my stoner translator is on vacation. I realize we are not all English majors, but I have NO IDEA what you're trying to say here. If your post is still relevant, please send it in a private message, and try to type it again when you're not baked, or ask your mom to proof read it before sending. ;-) ha ha.
 
Sorry, my tablet has a mind of it's own, and replaces words at random, and any questions I had are not relevant any more, point is moot, thanks for responding all the same, I'm sticking to organic at minimum hydro salt buds don't satisfy anymore, I'm spoiled with high brix flavor and potency, had some very well done dro recently and it seemed very bland and took alot to get the job done, have you ever had a high brix grown bud? It's a game changer!
Even if I do any form of hydro it's gotta be organic nutes, I know that probably comes off snobbish but I don't mean it that way, I only grow for me and family and quality is the goal weight is just a fun fact for me, I love what you & sling are doing it amazing to watch, he's a great guy ,a bfam (brotha from another mother)!
Anyway thanks again and here's wishing you a merry (insert holiday of choice) you do great work I tried to nom you last month don't know if you will appear in the list at some point or not but I tried lol:thumb::bravo: :xmas:
 
Hey Capn!

Not sure if you still are active on your thread, but i have started a small plant with this style, here is pic from few weeks back...

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Well now I am starting to get a small amount of leaf tip burn, any ideas why? My solution is REAL weak, about 200-300 ppm, and using RO water so my pH is not the most stable, could that be it?

Thanks, I love the simplicity of this style.
 
Hey CD, glad to hear you are giving the cubes a try.

Without knowing your recipe or actually seeing pictures of the burn, it's hard to say, but here are a few things to think about:

1. Usually when the leaf tips get dehydrated, it is because of a condition that existed at least a week or two ago. So even if you had a couple irrigations with accidental high PPM back then, it's possible that's the cause. If so, no worries, your plant will grow out of it.

2. When using rockwool, always be sure to irrigate heavily. In fact, you can run water over the medium for 15 minutes at a time. This ensures the PPM in the media is the same as your reservoir, and no salts are building up in the rockwool.

3. I love the air-pots, but I would save it for the LAST container you transplant to, just before flower. It is cheaper, and I have found to be better, to just use regular nursery pots during veg, transplanting up a size every couple weeks. (this doesn't have anything to do with the burn, just an observation)

4. Sometimes lower leaves get droopy at night and get splashed by irrigation. The tips could be getting burnt from that.

I can't remember if I answered your q in the other thread, but I wouldn't use the florakleen until you're flushing just before harvest. Using it mid-grow causes the plant to NOT be able to use nutrients, and it's difficult to then flush all the florakleen out.

Good luck and let me know how it goes.
 
Well I am using GH Flora Series, VERY weak week 3 feeding schedule. I am going to change res. tonight, will post some pics up for you. I probably going to chop her in half today too, these Hawaiian Snow's are so dam lanky. Not going to have the space to flower this plant for another 2-3 months minimum.

with regards to florakleen, not planning on using till last week before chop.

I am also having burnt tips on my 35 day into flower Hawaiian Snow I have in a General Hydro Waterfarm, using same nutes. So part of me is wondering if it these nutes? I was having pH issues on it too, but when plant got bigger they stabilized. I am thinking next time I use the Waterfarm use the rockwool chunks instead of hydroton.

What would be good hydro ferts to use?
Appreciate the help!
 
Some strains are lanky but not enough light and / or too small of a pot will cause lanky too. For lanky strains I suggest topping often. I use dutch master or gen hydro nutrients. Check my blogs for recipes. Don't use their nutrient calculator.

PH fluctuations are always more common in systems where there is no medium, or hydroton, which I consider no medium either, because the roots can't penetrate it. I can't tell you exactly how to control your PH. It is one of those things that takes some experimenting, but I'll tell you it is always common for newer growers. When possible, I adjust PH with silica (to raise) or florablend (to lower). I use PH up and Down only when absolutely necessary, and I use it VERY sparingly, and am careful not to over adjust.

I really need more info to help you. Stop by the Q&A section of my blog and post your specifics there, and I'll try to help.
 
Hey Capn,

Will the General Hydroponics BioWeed work well for a liquid seaweed?

The other option I have available is;

Organiccare Seaplex

Thanks very much! Your articles are super informative and as a new grower I've been learning more as I gain experience and also re-read through your articles as I run into questions!
 
Hey Capn,

Will the General Hydroponics BioWeed work well for a liquid seaweed?

The other option I have available is;

Organiccare Seaplex

Thanks very much! Your articles are super informative and as a new grower I've been learning more as I gain experience and also re-read through your articles as I run into questions!

Hey Shank,

I'm using the maxicrop, simply because I threw it in my cart to try it out one day. That, or the bioweed or seaplex will be fine. I really like the botanicare line and have never tried the seaplex. However I will probably stick with the maxicrop. One bottle of it lasts a long time for me because I only use it in veg and I use it sparingly. I know it works well, so I'll stick to the recipe. Honestly I think any of these would be fine. I don't see any reason not to use any of them. As usual, start around 1ml/gal and check roots after a few weeks.
 
@TheCapn
Hey very very informative..
Actually i am from india and i can't find rockwool here. I really loved your grow.
I want to try this too but for that i will need CFL setup and Fertilizers (and insect repellent) which i guess have no idea how can i..
i want to ask you that i have 220v config here and i want a stress free setup cheap as much as possible.. So which imp thing should i buy from the usa to start on ur track ? thank you for your valueable share i was going for the bucket aeroponics way but now i fear of the root rot problem. Kindly advice (temp outside is 40 deg celcius. Humidity is very low.). FYI i can only buy online.
 
@TheCapn
Hey very very informative..
Actually i am from india and i can't find rockwool here. I really loved your grow.
I want to try this too but for that i will need CFL setup and Fertilizers (and insect repellent) which i guess have no idea how can i..
i want to ask you that i have 220v config here and i want a stress free setup cheap as much as possible.. So which imp thing should i buy from the usa to start on ur track ? thank you for your valueable share i was going for the bucket aeroponics way but now i fear of the root rot problem. Kindly advice (temp outside is 40 deg celcius. Humidity is very low.). FYI i can only buy online.

The first thing you need is the rockwool grow cubes, and regular nursery pots. To get started, I would use T5 lighting instead of CFL. Good luck.
 
The first thing you need is the rockwool grow cubes, and regular nursery pots. To get started, I would use T5 lighting instead of CFL. Good luck.



Thanks for the reply..
I am very very very new to it...
It is something BANNED everywhere here.
I want to make medicines and help those who are in pain (not for smoking just for oil and caps)

So please help me sir.
I want few directions from you (because i am very very very inspired by your detailed tutorials)
Note: What exactly i am doing is
i have 14 x 11 x 7 room
I plan to make at least 4x4x7 closet (or order cheap one from amazon) in the room for controlling the grow environment (SMELL!!!!!). Any advice on using the full room for grow and still control the smell.
I plan to purchase 6-8" Carbon scrubber, centrifugal fan, fan controller and duct (Kindly advice a GOOD ONE please for SMELL!!!!).
I plan to also get ONA Gel (not decided which one Block or linen) will keep in room (not in closet).
I plan to build total system in Ardiuno fully automatic..
I plan to use 600 watt (240v) air ventilated HPS light (please suggest this too..) might get a interchangeable with MH
Going with General Hydroponics Nutrient (as per your tutorial (this))
Is it imp to have CWP 24/7 nutrient monitor or same like that (chinese) will work coz CWP = 9k and Chinese = 4-5k.


1) Which strain was used in the Method 1!! Very imp and also which seedbank !! I might have left that while reading
2) Is 4x4x7 is sufficient for Flowering ?
3) Can i use the room space (WITHOUT CARBON SCRUBBER) for vegetative stage clones ? do the plant give out any odour during vegetative state ?
4) How did you made the weekly beneficial tea ?
is it only this
Ancient Forest
Aquashield
Molasses
Great white
Roots Excellerator
Rapid start
5) I do not have budget for LED now So will go with HPS... Which HPS/MH is good with Air ventilation 6/8" and support 240v also please suggest fan !!
6) FOR SMELL please suggest something i do not want to go behind bar just for this... i will spend 300$ alone on this. Please suggest a PERFECT SOLUTION...(i plan on carbon and ona combo while flowering)
7) Will it be okay if i use Hydrated Lime and Baking sodo (sodium bi carbonate ?) for PH up and down instead of General Hydroponics Ph up and down kit ? (i will have the 24/7 nutrient monitor for ph)
8) Is emergency mylar blanket are okay for reflection of light ? (if incase i want to build other closet for veg)..
9)how much speed should be of Intake fan i mean i am confused in intake and exhaust fan config.
10) You use PH silica what exactly is that is that the silica pouch comes in the packages used for storage ?
11) What should be down to increase and decrease Humidity in the room ?
12) I want to ask this to you that if suppose i build a closet (for veg) can i break my ceiling (easily) can get the sunlight from above the closet by removing the cloth and putting transparent plastic ? is it possible ?
13) Is there any chemical which can destroy this plant completely ? (self destruct mode)
14) Is it necessary to maintain the reserviour nutrient solution temp near 72 f?
15) Just rapid Rooter will be sufficient for seedlings ?
16) Will T5 light will be sufficient for VEG growth? Any particular specification, sugggestion ?
17) Did you used EBB FLOW or top feed to waste in the entire process of Method 1 (veg stage and flowering stage)?
18) For 5 gallon how much rockwool will be require (full) Medium grow bag, or large grow bag or loose 1 cu ft or 2 cu ft?

I am asking only you because you have done a lot of research and spend a hell lot of money while doing so... So i want to utilize your experience Please do help...
and Sorry for the ignorance... and bad english if any
Thank you for taking time out for this...
 
>>>I want to make medicines and help those who are in pain (not for smoking just for oil and caps)
:-)

>>>I plan to purchase 6-8" Carbon scrubber, centrifugal fan, fan controller and duct (Kindly advice a GOOD ONE please for SMELL!!!!).
"Phresh" or the "can-lite". I have had no success with the active air.

>>>I plan to also get ONA Gel (not decided which one Block or linen) will keep in room (not in closet).
Put the gel INSIDE the duct, so all the duct air goes over it before going out.

Also, if you really want to control smell, get a UV sterilizer. I have the UV-80H. Expensive but effective.

>>>I plan to build total system in Ardiuno fully automatic..
Nice! I also have one and have been programming it but haven't implemented it.

>>>I plan to use 600 watt (240v) air ventilated HPS light (please suggest this too..) might get a interchangeable with MH
I use the galaxy ballasts but any digital ballast should work for you.

>>>Going with General Hydroponics Nutrient (as per your tutorial (this))
Is it imp to have CWP 24/7 nutrient monitor or same like that (chinese) will work coz CWP = 9k and Chinese = 4-5k.

I've used the chinese one and it didn't hold calibration well. The CWP is the best for the money. It holds calibration for MONTHS.

>>>1) Which strain was used in the Method 1!! Very imp and also which seedbank !! I might have left that while reading
That was TGA Orange, but I wouldn't buy that again. If I were you, I would start with something like Dinafem OG Kush. It is a high yielder, finishes in 8-9 weeks, and tastes great. It is very easy to grow.

>>>2) Is 4x4x7 is sufficient for Flowering ?
For that space I would do a 3x3 tray with 4 big plants in it, yes.

>>>3) Can i use the room space (WITHOUT CARBON SCRUBBER) for vegetative stage clones ? do the plant give out any odour during vegetative state ?

Yes there is a LITTLE bit of odor but not much. You could vent your veg room into your flower room, then only have ONE duct outside from flower that is scrubbed by carbon and UV sterilizer.

>>>4) How did you made the weekly beneficial tea ?
Tea recipe: How to get pearly white roots and accellerate vegetative growth - Blogs - 420 Magazine ®

>>>5) I do not have budget for LED now So will go with HPS... Which HPS/MH is good with Air ventilation 6/8" and support 240v also please suggest fan !!

You will get MUCH better results with HPS. I use galaxy ballasts. Bulbs: Hortilux eye or Apollo. I use the 6" max fan. It is expensive but quiet and reliable.

>>>6) FOR SMELL please suggest something i do not want to go behind bar just for this... i will spend 300$ alone on this. Please suggest a PERFECT SOLUTION...(i plan on carbon and ona combo while flowering)

UV-80H sterilzer + Carbon.

>>>7) Will it be okay if i use Hydrated Lime and Baking sodo (sodium bi carbonate ?) for PH up and down instead of General Hydroponics Ph up and down kit ? (i will have the 24/7 nutrient monitor for ph)

No. Get PH and Down

>>>8) Is emergency mylar blanket are okay for reflection of light ? (if incase i want to build other closet for veg)..

I wouldn't use it. It is not necessary. Paint your walls white and you will be good.

>>>9)how much speed should be of Intake fan i mean i am confused in intake and exhaust fan config.

Get the 6" max fan. It has 3 speeds.

>>>10) You use PH silica what exactly is that is that the silica pouch comes in the packages used for storage ?

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>>>11) What should be down to increase and decrease Humidity in the room ?

Cheap humidifer to raise. To lower, increase fan speed to exhaust humid air out.

>>>12) I want to ask this to you that if suppose i build a closet (for veg) can i break my ceiling (easily) can get the sunlight from above the closet by removing the cloth and putting transparent plastic ? is it possible ?

Yes but you would need to make sure no light escapes out or people will know you are growing. This might be too much trouble.

>>>13) Is there any chemical which can destroy this plant completely ? (self destruct mode)

Yes, anything under your kitchen sink will kill it.

>>>14) Is it necessary to maintain the reserviour nutrient solution temp near 72 f?

If you are using rockwool grow cubes, just make sure the water stays under 75. That should not be a problem.

>>>15) Just rapid Rooter will be sufficient for seedlings ?

Yes that is fine

>>>16) Will T5 light will be sufficient for VEG growth? Any particular specification, sugggestion ?

Yes, any t5 light will work.

>>>17) Did you used EBB FLOW or top feed to waste in the entire process of Method 1 (veg stage and flowering stage)?

Top feed to waste until plant is 4-5" tall, then recirculating top feed.

>>>18) For 5 gallon how much rockwool will be require (full) Medium grow bag, or large grow bag or loose 1 cu ft or 2 cu ft?

The 2cu ft bag will do 2-3 5 gal buckets full

>>>I am asking only you because you have done a lot of research and spend a hell lot of money while doing so... So i want to utilize your experience Please do help...

I'm happy to help. I like the way you are planning your set up. I will suggest to you... to save your money until you can afford the proper equipment. For example, don't buy the cheap fan, it will be too loud. But the good 6" max fan. Don't buy the cheap PH meter, it won't calibrate well. There are some things you can skimp on, and some things you don't want to skimp on. If you have questions about certain equipment, go ahead and PM me about it. IN the meantime, get those seeds started!
 
hi Captn, i use a "air butler-» ionizer coupled with an uv sterilizer for in the room before the groom. virtually invisible in smells terms.
and less aerobe bacterias in the intakes.
hope it helps...
have a nice day captn
 
hi Captn, i use a "air butler-» ionizer coupled with an uv sterilizer for in the room before the groom. virtually invisible in smells terms.
and less aerobe bacterias in the intakes.
hope it helps...
have a nice day captn

HI, ECdriver. Please post picture of your implementation or a link where to buy. I'm interested.

Thanks!
 
Thought I show some shots of my first foray into this method, I am loving it so far. Simple and scale able! I have been using your bene tea(once a week) and feed schedule

Here are a Barney's Farm Crimea Blue and Vanilla Kush clones. they have been in these airpots about a week-2 after rooting.
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And a Hawaiian Snow, it been in here about month-2, you can see previous pic from about 6 weeks ago on previous page of this thread, she is growing well. Especially considering i chopped half of her off when topping. I am thinking may need to put in bigger pot soon, what you think Capn? I have seen you say previoudly do nto worry about algae?

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Looking great! Yeah the big one is ready for a bigger pot. I bet it is using up the water in that small pot quickly. I don't mind the algae. You can pull a few algae covered cubes off and throw them away if you want. As soon as the plant is big enough, the algae won't grow any longer.

I posted more on your journal.
 
HI, ECdriver. Please post picture of your implementation or a link where to buy. I'm interested.

Thanks!
of course mate, this is the link to the model of ionizer i have, the uv sterilizer is a one that create ozone and clean all the space, it is difficult for me to unscrew it from the top of my room and impossible to picture it at it is behind the exhaust fan...sorry.
link to the ionizer:ioniseur airbutler franck - 8w - 30m² Traitement des Odeurs
it is very powerful and clean the air of more than a 3omsq without any problems.
 
not to set up close to the plant prefer to set it up in a room before the groom in between your living space and the groom.
have a nice day Capn.
 
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