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Yes mix all parts into the same gallon and then check pH
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What if I use RAIN water?Yes mix all parts into the same gallon and then check pH
I love your step-by-step, but can I use these same steps if I’m growing in soil?These are the exact steps I take to properly preparing a nute solution:
Note: My res is 25 gallons, so you will have to adjust all volumes for your res size.
I would suggest getting a container that would be able to hold the same amount of water as your res. That way you can prepare your mixture in the mixing container, then empty your rez and immediately pump the fresh solution into your system so that they will be out of the water for a minimal amount of time to reduce shock.
# Use good water. I use RO (Reverse Osmosis) water.
# Add all of your "extras" to your reservoir
In bloom, I add 80ml of Bcuzz bloom stimulant (Bcuzz's suggested str for 25 gals), and a small amount of Epsom salts, about 2 TSP (10ml). You must mix your e-salts in warm water, or they will take forever to dissolve and throw off your readings. This little trick will help you whenever you need to mix something solid into your nute solution. Dissolve it first.
# Nutrient mixing.
What I do is get a gallon of water, and mix my nutes ratios into that container, then I simply add that solution to my res until I reach the desired ppm. You CANNOT mix them together in their pure form, they must be diluted or nutrient lockout can occur. I never pour nutes directly into the reservoir.
My system holds 25 gallons, so I use 80ml as my "base unit" of measure. I use the 1-2-3 (G-M-B) formula. It is the one that GH recommends and it works well for me. For example 1-2-3 = 80ml — 160ml — 240ml
# Always add Micro, then Grow, then Bloom.
In my bucket of water I add 2 measures of GH Micro. Mix. Then I add my 1 measure of Grow. Mix. Then I add my 3 measures of Bloom. Mix.
My measure is 80ml - yours will be different according to your res size.
# Use a submersible water pump to keep everything mixing in your main rez.
# Add the GH mixture slowly to the mixing container until I reach my desired ppm. After I have the ppm's set, I adjust my ph until my mixture is perfect. Then I quickly dump my res and put the contents form my mixing container into my res.
Be sure your nutes are fully mixed before trusting your readings. I have found ph to take longer to stabilize than ppm's, so allow the tank to really mix up well before you count on a ph reading to be true.
Here are some GH ratios I use:
Cuttings
pure RO water and a rooting powder, liquid, or gel is all you need
Seedlings / clones
Add a drop of superthrive per gallon of water, e-salts, and a 1-1-1 (G-M-B) GH mixture at 250 ppm and adjust ph to 5.2 — 5.8.
Early veg
Add a drop of superthrive per gallon of water, e-salts, and a 1-1-1 (G-M-B) GH mixture at 350-450 ppm and adjust ph to 5.2 — 5.8.
Vegging
Add a drop of superthrive per gallon of water, e-salts, and a 3-2-1 (G-M-B) GH mixture at 500-650 ppm and adjust ph to 5.2 — 5.8.
Transition to blooming (first 2 weeks of 12/12)
Add my Bcuzz bloom booster, e-salts, and a 1-1-1 (G-M-B) GH mixture at 700 ppm and adjust ph to 5.2 — 5.8.
Full bloom
Add my Bcuzz bloom booster, e-salts, and a 1-2-3 (G-M-B) GH mixture at 750 - 950 ppm and adjust ph to 5.2 — 5.8.
Tips:
When I give a range of ppm, I start off low and mix a little extra GH to slowly bump up the ppms as the days go on to make sure the plants can handle it. Every strain will grow a little different.
If system heat is a problem, you can use a silicone solution such as pro-tekt (or Pro-silica) to raise ph and give the plants a little something to help them out in hot weather. Use it sparingly. I wouldn't add more than 1 ml per gallon into your res. It may slow down growth.
Don't try to add all kinds of stuff to your res, the simpler the better. That is why I add so little Epsom salts. If I start having Mg issues I would bump it up, but I haven't had to yet.
You will not need H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide) unless you have an improper nute solution. If you keep your res temps at 68-72* and it is light tight you won't have algae problems and your plants will be the happiest. The higher your nute temps go, the less O2 the water can hold. It is a property of water itself and no amount of bubbles will help.
I keep my nutes at a ph between 5.2 — 5.8. If it is in this range DO NOT try to get it "perfect" by adding ph up and down.
If you mix up your solution and you don't HAVE to use the ph up or down DON'T. When you do adjust try to hit 5.5 but once again don't be too picky. If it's a little higher or lower let it go. You'll just mess things up by trying to mix it exactly.
If you have a nutrient deficiency, or some other problem that you think might be nutrient related - change your nutes!
[Editor's note:]
Some members prefer to add main nutrient components first, additives later:
(~shabang~) "Anything organic will throw your EC/PPM measurements off and it will be harder to judge how much salt fertilizer you've added. I've always thought it best to put the additives in last after you're happy with the chem levels."
Be careful when mixing highly concentrated nutrients, as lockout can occur when adding pH "up" (As may occur in a smaller volume). It is my experience that K can precipitate out of solution - make sure pH "up" or "Down" is added to the nutrient solution with additional water).
Another mixup procedure is to mix the nutrients directly into the main rez. This method takes longer, as adjustments require additional mixup of seperate nutrient components.
(Reggea love) Nutrients strengths should be qualified with the ppm/us conversion factor used (such as 0.5, 0.6 or 0.7), which can make a significant difference to the actual strengths.]
Coco is hydroIm a new grower and haven't actually grown anything yet. Ive pieced together a small grow tent, fan and filter, led lighting and plan on using coco choir medium with perlite cause I like the way perlite looks lol. So I guess im kinda a hybrid grower. Using alternatives to what seems to be the mainstream of growing. Soil vs hydro. Led vs hid. Well im not soil and im not hydro. I guess im sygro. I have been literally cramming and learning about growing for the past 4 months. All in theory however, I refuse to start growing without having learned the basics of each stages or sections of growing. Im thorough and like to be familar with what im doing before having hands on experience Here are my challenges and im hoping veteran growers will know a answer to.
I have my assumptions for these questions but would really love some confirmations
A) Im not hydro im not soil im using coco choir 3 to 4 gal pots probably only one plant maybe two im wanting to use fox farms, trio set, veg and flowering nutes. I would get the hydro nutes correct?
B) ppms im starting to understand. However no one really explains the proccess of measuring ppms when using potted plants. Do I measure ppms when im mixing my nutes or take sample measurements from water run off like with ph.
C) where do I find what my ppms need to be during the stages of growth. Would the Seed provider or a person familar with the strain tell me or is this something the nutrient manufacturer will suggest? Or even better if anyone knows a good article on ppms in relation to marijuana that would be great.
It seems because im using coco choir medium a lot of my questions end up with hydro related answers. Aware of the fact that my method of potted soiless mix grow and hydro growing are very similar but because im new im having difficulties reading articles on hydro grows and knowing what will work for my grow. I dont know if that makes sense lol. Anyway my next step will be hydro growing. Im finding that there are easier to find answers for hydro than potted soiless mixes.
Hey Demon this is a very old thread your probably not going to get a response back. So you know the time stamps are on the top left hope you have a great dayCoco is hydro
And sadly their last post was in 2015.Hey Demon this is a very old thread your probably not going to get a response back. So you know the time stamps are on the top left hope you have a great day