oops - aslo get those bags up off the drain trays. be sure to elevate them and get some airspace underneath. don't let them sit in runoff. always leave them elevated above the trays.
Help with pH please
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Thank you, I've put a lot of time into them tbh, kept on top of environment. Ph, feeding etc, but yes, I was told not to flush during at all but like I said to Emilya, I have been misled on somethings, but thou shall be doing this from now on, I'm not an experienced grower my friend, I have bubble bomb photos that are not far off done and have gone swimmingly well so just banged a load of autos down thinking I was a pro and then went off original information thinking it all made logical sense when really it can't make full sense when the full experience isnt there. But my coco is ammendmended with worm castings, it has volcanic rock dust in, sea weed, I've had to put epsom salt in there when I was facing some magnesium problem on it a couple week back, then its had just some organic veg at the start and some bloom a couple week back.. So I'm gunna obviously now gunna give a day or so for medium to dry out, then put in a normal AN mix, micro, grow bloom, cal mag 1st though I've been told by a few on here when doing bottled nutes. Then pk boost once a week or summet
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What could recommend for that mate?
oh boy. did you start out with a particular bottle nute line that was recommended ? if so you need to stick with that and hang on. maybe pray.
once worm castings etc are involved it's a frankenhybrid as @Emilya mentioned. things get very hard to call.
AN is anti to the way you started. which is organic - hybrid. the best answer is stick to the recommended nute line if you bought in to a system. it should be a feed every day and lean in hard.
if it's failing you have to figure out which way you are growing and go both fast and hard. your ph etc will be totally different depending on your nute decisions and approach.
em might have something more. or popcorn.
edit : you can buy cheap pot elevators. especially now in the spring. look at dollar stores.
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Had a feeling this was gunna be a difficult one, but yeah it's Defo gunna be a feed as much as and a high volume to make sure it gets what it needs, I'll watch out for nute burn aswell, I'll be on this plant daily now checking everything. If it does take nicely on to the AN, Then praise the Lord lmao. 1st and last time I'll make this mistake and I'm massively appreciate the help people...
if you had quick access to MC that would be the way to finish if in doubt and i had to switch. maybe an @GeoFlora Nutrients but it needs watered in and i'm not sure what there is for time. maybe they can help with the shout.
there's others like biobizz that could hand off just fine but i'm not so hep. you are gonna need both a nutrient assist and pk soon.
whatever you decide fast and lots is the answer mid term.
edit : you can go AN now and finish in hydro rules. the hand off between can be grumpy once in a while. not fatal though.
Emilya Green
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Live and learn as they say... I bet most of us made massive mistakes, some lot worse than yours, as we started in this. Each grow will get better and better as you learn. Welcome to the hobby!
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What is mc? I'll splash straight on to the an with the hydro rules.. Is biobizz soil good for live organic?
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That is 100%, I love this app, I've been on reddit and slaughtered for my mistakes, yall have helped me and I massively appreciate it, but yes, now I know what I've done wrong, I won't do it again, other than medium, in my own opinion, rest has been pretty spot on, but least I got you guys to ask for assistance
i started under t5 flourescent lights and soil i dug up from the alley.. pablo wasn't around yet but i was positive we were makin deals ..
mc is mega crop. whole other story. biobizz is another nute line too. both are US based lines. both are organic or organic compatible if that's how you've run to this point.
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Not seen It anywhere so I'm assuming as the British are shite for growing stuff, be no quick access... Ahh right, I may have to use them for the organic way then, there's gold label aswell, some special mix stuff, but bio bizz probably better, I see that everywhere online, Defo gunna be putting all my coco to one side for now loli started under t5 flourescent lights and soil i dug up from the alley.. pablo wasn't around yet but i was positive we were makin deals ..
mc is mega crop. whole other story. biobizz is another nute line too. both are US based lines. both are organic or organic compatible if that's how you've run to this point.
Fuzzy Duck
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Coco coir is an inert growing medium & should be treated in the same fashion of hydroponics with a PH corrected nutrient solution normally about PH 5.8 how ever adding other stuff to coir may complicate things a little but a small amount is hardly going to hurt !
Measuring run off is BAD Bro science bud
Technically speaking the run off has picked up the remains of nutrients already in the growing medium as the new solution passes through & there for the run off solution PH, PPM, EC is never going to be true.... in till such a point where you literally flush each & every plant with gallons of PH corrected nutrient solution, Mmm no ones going to do that.
With coir you feed every time you need to water, you kind of need a semi dry, wet cycle through out the grow as to dry will lead to PH imbalance.
Oh Biobizz rocks used it for years with their own nutrient range
Measuring run off is BAD Bro science bud
Technically speaking the run off has picked up the remains of nutrients already in the growing medium as the new solution passes through & there for the run off solution PH, PPM, EC is never going to be true.... in till such a point where you literally flush each & every plant with gallons of PH corrected nutrient solution, Mmm no ones going to do that.
With coir you feed every time you need to water, you kind of need a semi dry, wet cycle through out the grow as to dry will lead to PH imbalance.
Oh Biobizz rocks used it for years with their own nutrient range
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Massive thank you to that advice my friend, see I had this argument with run off with someone and apparently as I said similar to you, apparently I was wrong, I knew I wasn't and shouldn't of Ph d the run off lmao.. Yeah feeding almost every single day, just every now and again I leave for like 1 day of the week just for my plants to breathe a bit.. Gunna be ordering some bio bizz on my next payday mate, shall never be making any of these mistakes again lolCoco coir is an inert growing medium & should be treated in the same fashion of hydroponics with a PH corrected nutrient solution normally about PH 5.8 how ever adding other stuff to coir may complicate things a little but a small amount is hardly going to hurt !
Measuring run off is BAD Bro science bud
Technically speaking the run off has picked up the remains of nutrients already in the growing medium as the new solution passes through & there for the run off solution PH, PPM, EC is never going to be true.... in till such a point where you literally flush each & every plant with gallons of PH corrected nutrient solution, Mmm no ones going to do that.
With coir you feed every time you need to water, you kind of need a semi dry, wet cycle through out the grow as to dry will lead to PH imbalance.
Oh Biobizz rocks used it for years with their own nutrient range
it's a good nute to go with considering you are running amended coco. you might want some kind or organic based pk boost as well.
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Oh I mean there organic soil not nutes, I have a never ending amount of live organic and AN nutes, gunna be finishing these off with the AN nutes. I have x4 seedlings, 2 gunna stay in coco and feed throughout on AN nutes, 2 gunna go in to bio bizz soil. I know some people would go against the transplant into bio bizz. But there seedling cups are like 5cm tall and that much coco going into 10l soil then transplanted in to 20l pots will have any bad effect on it..
Fuzzy Duck
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All part of the learning curve bud
I spent several months doing research before I even popped my first seed so many years ago & it is really unbelievable what some peeps think it takes to grow a cannabis plant !
It is a new industry these days with various countries allowing for medical use & some recreational along with all of this some shady information will occur on casual forums...
But none the less always cross reference data, questions or so called facts with regular gardening or horticultural knowledge as well to build a sound basis for your growing interests
