Help locating topics for these sick plants

[Diy1986]

Update on horribly sick plant I replanted it and Coco Peat and removed all the bad leaves so far it’s still hanging on
my plant that looks strange it’s still appearing to be female but looking very odd I still see two little growths that could possibly be new growth but I’m keeping a close eye because the plant looks different than any I’ve grown.

 

[SmokingWings]

I am not sure of exactly what you are seeing. It does look like you went way overboard in cutting off leaves and stems, though. The problem with doing that is many of the group want to be able to see the entire plant and the problem leaves still on the plant.

In the second set of photos, the ones taken in normal white light, you circled a couple of nodes and the new stems growing there. That looks normal.

If you brought up the problem before in another link could you provide the link? That way those of us who did not see it can use it as a reference.

 

[Diy1986]

I am trying to figure out what happen to my plants looking for advice to look up don’t know where to start anybody suggestion on topic would help root issues the only topic suggested so far I’ve replanted in plain coco peat now and removed all bad leaves
Previously it was in garden soil with a dash of reused dirt from last years grow (garden soil bought pasteurized dirt mixture)
Only been fed molasses bone meal blood meal coffee grounds water but not in a while before damaged appeared and second plant was starting to do the same at a slower level maybe this means I did something but all four plants were different seeds I believe and two of the four are doing amazing they were looking great then started showing horrible problem on new growth around bud sites older fan leaves look great still the growth was pointing upwards looked a bit Deformed yellowed and brown something went horribly wrong but I replanted them in fresh plaint coco peat dirt and water good and removed damages as best as possible thank U all just looking for ideas of what could be so I can research
Last question I haven’t and don’t think I should
but should I try to give these plants anything to bounce back thier health I have molasses bone meal blood meal coffee grounds yea grounds and fish ferlizer food ???? For now I have let them alone in the plain coco peat as I don’t know if this was a nutrient overload or lock out

 

[Diy1986]

The last two pictures are after I cleaned it up and put into plain coco peat soil I purchased at my local Hydroponic plant store

 

[Diy1986]

Yes I will figure out to link
thank u so much
I also feel like the Suspicious plant is a female maybe just a different type of breed
I’ve been watching it very close thank you for that
as for the other ones I did post a previous with the damages when they started
this was just a update of what I did since then
I also just posted a brand new post With the before and after of those two sick plants
I am Desperately trying to get some ideas of what else to research
I’ve been looking into things for days now I just don’t seem to be able to find a good answer!
I try to go by the Appearance of the photos and other blogs videos or web trying to find something that looks similar to mine
I am looking now to try to figure out how to post that link here

 

[Diy1986]

Help locating topics for these sick plants

Update on horribly sick plant I replanted it and Coco Peat and removed all the bad leaves so far it’s still hanging on my plant that looks strange it’s still appearing to be female but looking very odd I still see two little growths that could possibly be new growth but I’m keeping a close eye...

www.420magazine.com

 

[Diy1986]

Something very wrong with plant & leaves, help

Anybody have a clue what is happening to my plant or how to help it This is my second year growing but I’ve never seen this and it seems like another plant is starting to do the same thing it looks aweful

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[Diy1986]

I don’t know if I did that right but I’m trying to share the link

 

[Tokin Roll]

Help locating topics for these sick plants

Update on horribly sick plant I replanted it and Coco Peat and removed all the bad leaves so far it’s still hanging on my plant that looks strange it’s still appearing to be female but looking very odd I still see two little growths that could possibly be new growth but I’m keeping a close eye...

www.420magazine.com

Are your plants sitting on a cold floor?

 

[013]

I will take a stab at it, please bear in mind I’m a newbie here - only growing for a year but I’ve done a lot of reading trying to get up to speed...

First coco, peat and soil are not the same things.

Coco coir is made from ground up coconut husks, peat is moss & lichen usually imported from Canada. Coco is inert, there are zero nutrients in coco to sustain a plant, same goes for peat moss.

Neither of these (peat or coco) are considered soil, they can be used as a base and when combined with other stuff (ewc, perlite, mulch) and buffered with lime to make an actual soil product or when used by themselves they fall into a category that’s called soilless. Plants grown in these substrates must be fed nutrients since they don’t contain any. If you grow in coco then the substrate should not be allowed to dry out. Most feed quarter strength nutes every day, then 2 times per day when the plant is bigger & even 3 times per day in flower. Coco is considered drain to waste hydro so ph should be set at 5.8 and it’s important to feed to runoff each time, this flushes out some of the old nutes to help prevent chemical salt buildup in the media plus it delivers some fresh nutes each time too.

Most coco packages instruct the grower to pre-charge the media with cal-mag. Coco grown plants need calcium & magnesium added with each feed session. When you mix your soup cal mag is to be added first stirred in and wait 10 minutes. Then add your NPK nutes, stir & wait. After 10 minutes stir and check your ph then adjust to 5.8 and feed your plants. Plain water or plain ph adjusted water should not be used... again coco should not be allowed to dry out.

if its a soil grow then the plants need a defined wet dry cycle, I suspect this is where your problems are sourced either too wet or too dry. I know that sounds crazy but the ph level and whether it’s soil versus coco really makes big difference. Roots can’t grow in continuously wet soil they need oxygen but roots develop or adapt differently in soil versus hydro methods.

see if you can figure out exactly what is in the bucket - how much coco how much peat etc.

as always -my 2 cents but please consider all other opinions!

 

[Diy1986]

I know I pulled them from the soil that had any nutrients in it and placed them in plain old coco in case it was something I fed them I also just purchased worm castings to haven’t used thou maybe I could Make some of that in with the Coco they get calcium or Cal mag

 

[013]

Ok so that’s coco. How often do you water? How often do you feed? What do you feed?

 

[Diy1986]

Nothing I haven’t fed my plants anything at all since I relocated my sick plants into
The clean coco
As for what I fed them while in soil previously is
Stated with garden soil/reused soil from last year mix with a touch of bonemeal and blood meal then planted the sprouts or are young plants into this mix
The next thing they were fed is coffee grounds/ tea grounds
Then I purchased molasses
From hydro store for plants I fed them this twices it’s one teaspoon for a gallon of water was done correctly I believe
Also I applied neem oil spray for bug repellent used this the entire year last year on cannabis plants and other plants with no signs of harm don’t think this was the issue
Lastly they were being grown inside with grow lights I have five going plus window light I don’t think it’s a light issue either as the plants were doing absolutely beautiful and my other plants are still doing great
The one thing that I did differently and the last thing that was done to them was they were moved outside they were only outside for less than a week when I seen that they were getting bad move them back in transplant them in the fresh coco watered and cleaned off all the old dead foliage to try save them
They seem to be holding on so far but
I still can’t figure out what I did or if I need to give them something now to help them bounce back

 

[Diy1986]

They weren’t sitting on a cold floor I had moved them outside a week ago but then they got sick so I moved them back inside to care for them the weather has been cold and wet last three days so I moved all plants back inside everybody is going back outside Tom suppose to be 70 again

 

[013]

Ok cool. Your plants look pretty good but I see a couple things. The space between nodes is large which could be genetics or stretching, stretching is caused by not enough light. A window does slim to nothing for weed plants as far as direct light. Might want to invest in bigger light or get a light meter to check your light spacing & intensity. Moving inside to outside is ok but bringing them from outside to indoors can bring pests back in, fine by me but it could cross contaminate your other plants with critters.

It’s possible to grow in coco and use homemade ferts, might want to check out some grow journals on how to do this. Nutty Professor was cooking up some good stuff but it takes a couple months time to brew up good homemade ferts. For now hydro style bottled ferts would prolly be your best ticket. Nutes are chelated differently for the media type. So soil nutes are made to work in soil while hydro nutes are created for use in coco, nft, dwc, hempy and other hydro formats, sounds crazy but it matters big time.

Most nutes are not interchangeable from soil to hydro but a few are. I know MC can go either way and possibly the new Geoflora organic dry mix. Also most nutes deliver NPK but not the cal-mag so its important to read the labels to see if calcium & magnesium are included with NPK in the mix. The Geoflora & MC are both all in one that include the cal-mag. However Geoflora requires 2 sperate products one for veg and another for flower but good stuff & reasonable price.

Check labels - if the nutes are just NPK then you need an add on cal-mag product. Coco needs cal mag added first since it precipitates or drops out if added last. So add cal-mag first, stir & wait, add your NPK then sitir & wait, last stir and check ph then adjust ph to 5.8 for coco. This makes the nutes available at a range the plant can uptake best. When mixing nutes its best to mix small fresh batches cuz nutes left over for a day can start to bloom bad bacteria. Use a syringe for accurate measure & learn to do the math so you don’t waste nutes.

ounces / mil
128 gallon 10 mil
64 1/2 gallon 5 mil
32 quart 2.5 mil...... all these are same strength just smaller batches

Coco should not be allowed to dry out, feed with quarter strength nutes every day, your crew is big enough to feed 2 times per day, in flower bump up to 3 X per day. Feed to runoff every time, toss the runoff water on shrubs or fruit tress etc don’t reuse on your weed plants.

I suspect your plants are hungry since there is nothing in coco to sustain them, chicks in coco can‘t live on water alone...

if you have any hydro nutes then drop a pic of the labels and we can look to see what you have. Also get plugged in to the journal of @Bill284 - he’s a skilled coco grower and can point you right. I’m soil guy so this is the extent of my knowledge on coco. I woukd try to get them really healthy before flipping to flower - they don’t look bad but flower us real demanding & best to not go there if plants are weak or show deficiency.

alright man hope something here helps! Hopefully Bill will swing by when he sees the tag