Help! first grow!

earth2smoke

New Member
this is my first grow i am using some blue widow seeds and an hps light. a couple of days ago some of my plants new growth started looking kind of shriveled and underdeveloped heres a picture.
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any help would be awesome again this is my first grow!
 
What are you using for your soil/soiless mixture? You want pH 5.8 for hydroponic and soiless (peat moss and coco coir) and pH 6.5 for soil. Are you over watering your plant, your plant looks over watered? Place your finger in the soil 1"-2" and feel how moist the soil is.

here is a nutrient availability chart

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here is a cannabis leaf deficiency chart

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here is the Cannabis Plant and Pest Problem Solver and the Plant Abuse Chart

Cannabis Plant and Pest Problem Solver - Pictorial

Plant Abuse Chart
 
What are you using for your soil/soiless mixture?You want pH 5.8 for hydroponic and soiless (peat moss and coco coir) and pH 6.5 for soil. Are you over watering your plant, your plant looks over watered? place your finger in the soil 1"-2" and feel how moist the soil is.

here is a nutrient availability chart

pH_chart7.jpg



here is a cannabis leaf deficiency chart

cannabis_leaf-deficiencies31.jpg



here is the Cannabis Plant and Pest Problem Solver and the Plant Abuse Chart

Cannabis Plant and Pest Problem Solver - Pictorial

Plant Abuse Chart
I'm using mile high soil its made in michigan! I only water them when the soil feels dry. Could i have nutrient lock out from using to high ph water through most of its life?
 
If you have been watering your plant with too high of pH water then yes it is likely that your pH has been locking out nutrients, soil does tend to buffer pH but not at tap water levels. What have you been adjusting your pH to?
 
ok thanks I've been slowly trying to lower my soil ph. hopefully that helps out my sick babies. thanks again!

I would like to ask what you have been using to lower your soil PH please ?
 
as fuzzy said what have you been using to lower the ph
hes asking if your using ph down or something else
 
I'm using ph down to lower the ph of the water, then watering the soil with the ph adjusted water, in return lowering the soil ph. Is that not how i should be doing it?
 
fuzzy duck where is the confusion?

PH down or ups are normally used in hydroponic based systems such as DWC/NFT/ebb & flood etc or with inert growing mediums such as perlite/clay pebbles etc

Where as the correct PH value of the water makes the nutrients available for the plants to use !


The above does not apply to soil...

With soil its the PH value of soil/compost/loam used, ideally based between PH 6 & 7 where nutrients are most available.

Amendments such as lime (dolomite/garden) are used with soils/compost which are acidic based to buffer PH towards PH 7 basically towards a more neutral range of PH.

If soil is alkaline based or over PH 7 acidic buffers may need to be applied such as sphagnum peat, elemental sulfur, aluminum sulfate, iron sulfate, acidifying nitrogen, and organic mulches.



Most plants have adapted to thrive in the variable changes of PH of soil... many soils across the region where you live will differ in PH & type of soil... this may include shop purchased soil/compost most should state PH value on the bag it self if of a good reputation brand, some times PH variations between batches made the PH may change a little !

MJ is grown out doors across the globe in various regions i'm sure the PH of soil is various between each !

Which can be provide by myself with geological maps of the globe if you want to go hardcore about the subject...


So why is growing a plant indoors under lights so greatly different from an out door plant ?

Its not... same principle as out doors the correct PH of soil is the important factor !


Ye lets looks at this.

A large majority of plants will grow well between PH 6 & 7, farmers grow crops, people who grow vegetables or flowers for floristry etc or even trees/shrubs for nursery stock grow their plants in range of PH of 6 to 7

Never once in all my 20 years in the horticultural trade have i meet another plant grower who PH downs or ups their plant feed ! when its the soil PH which is the real factor.


So why is MJ so different... decades of hearsay, bad advice & misconceptions between hydroponic methods over soil that is all !




BTW soil is self buffering in nature & will naturally return to its ambient PH value over several hours or so after watering with nutrients or what ever... which can be observed :thumb:

Quite easy with a PH soil probe which can be purchased from most good garden centers or DIY store/depo's with a garden section.

Some pic's of a basic model
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Insert into soil of pot wait 5 to 10 minutes & take reading.

Feed with nutrients or just water & take another reading you may see a change of PH !

Take a reading 6, 12, 18 & 24 hours later you will see a change of PH towards ambient level PH of soil.


Don't leave the probe in the soil for prolonged periods of time.. like days or weeks as it buggers it up :thumb:




Any of above can be researched for your own knowledge to prove the fact, its how ya do it or research it & i normally avoid MJ forums for any real hardcore info. (ya won't like me, if ya ask why)
 
thanks for the info fuzzy! if my plants weren't already potted i would have put some kind of lime in the soil but that wasn't an option. so flushing them with 6.5 ph water was my only option really!
 
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