Help ASAP! Sick plants in hydro dying

[neon green]

Sory if my post came as a little rude. I really expected to get flamed. My apologies.
I know it seems silly that you can buy a $400 scrubber, $350 ballast, $150 hood, $70 bulb, and hundreds on nutes and a $40 ph pen breaks the bank. Well that's my life. Idk if I've just been lucky but I've NEVER had problem with ph in soil or coco. Now what I haven't had to replace any equipment in a few years, now I can afford a $40 tool. All to find out it was usless. My mixes are right about 6.0 and 6.5 being the highest. Like I said in the last post, follow instructions. The nutes companies spend thousands on r&d and hours testing. Who are we to modify their mixes?

 

[BrixKlinger]

Sory if my post came as a little rude. I really expected to get flamed. My apologies.
I know it seems silly that you can buy a $400 scrubber, $350 ballast, $150 hood, $70 bulb, and hundreds on nutes and a $40 ph pen breaks the bank. Well that's my life. Idk if I've just been lucky but I've NEVER had problem with ph in soil or coco. Now what I haven't had to replace any equipment in a few years, now I can afford a $40 tool. All to find out it was usless. My mixes are right about 6.0 and 6.5 being the highest. Like I said in the last post, follow instructions. The nutes companies spend thousands on r&d and hours testing. Who are we to modify their mixes?

because hydro is unforgiving ph wise.

even though coco is basically hydro for dummies, it is self buffered giving you alot more leeway.

its more about the wide variance in water sources than anything to do with the nute companies r&d.

don't take this the wrong way but you seem half cocked.

coco is awesome its not hard to get great results out of, doesn't mean you know what you are talking about though. maybe you do.

ph meters are relevant for hydro and coco growers, regardless of your luck or bank of knowledge.

 

[neon green]

You 100% right about water variances. Meaning that if you put in a super concentrated nutes like moon dust, the plant will take in solution at the ratio it likes, then once it can't get that ratio any more it pulls in a ratio that's not as healthy untill it gets to this stage. It's at a stage where the nutrients in solution are so concentrated that it's STUFFED with extra garbage. It needs water to level out.
Yes, it looks like a ph issue if you just look at ph. But if the ph is right going in then this happens, and you look at ph, unless you understand how a plant works you think it's a ph problem. The problem is that the plant has taken in more water than nutrients and the solution is SATURATED. Yes the ph will raise. I guarantee if you use a ppm meter it's off the charts. There isn't a need for any tools to tell you that.
Half cocked I may be my friend. Glad to make your acquaintance

 

[BrixKlinger]

Its also true that most of those nute companies contain something in the lineup that buffers ph as well.

No doubt ppms need controlling as much if not more than the ph.

 

[neon green]

But if you use a nutes ment for our flowers, take cutting edge solutions for example. If you use ro water and their recipe you will not have any issues, that's because their chemists and botanists know our flowers nutritional needs, wants and likes. The problem is when you use nutes that don't have the right ratios. They deplete what they need more of then what they don't want gets concentrated in the nute mix then we have issues like this.