Re: Hosted Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED
That's about what I'm guessing too.
That's about what I'm guessing too.
Haight Solid State vs. H.G.LED
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Re: Hosted Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED
I'm pretty sure I'd be buying a couple of the lights (whichever brand) if they can produce 2 oz./plant in this test. I'm desperate for heat savings for next summer. Don't care that much about the electricity cost, actually.
I'm pretty sure I'd be buying a couple of the lights (whichever brand) if they can produce 2 oz./plant in this test. I'm desperate for heat savings for next summer. Don't care that much about the electricity cost, actually.
1234a5678b
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Re: Hosted Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED
Why dirt instead of hydroponics or aeroponics?
Why dirt instead of hydroponics or aeroponics?
Re: Hosted Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED
That's exactly how I'm approaching this comparison, from the perspective of a consumer/customer, so indeed I am striving to be like your personal consumer reports writer
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High Kathypil! Welcome to 420Mag!
Growers are going to have different reasons for considering LED's. You seem to be looking for a reasonable yield along with less heat during summer. Others may be more interested in reasonable yield combined with energy savings, and there are probably other needs being considered that LED's might be able to fill.
One other benefit of LED's I don't hear discussed much is less risk of damage to my eyes and skin from exposure when I tend my plants. This benefit probably isn't very important to most growers, but it will factor in to some degree for me.
I'm hoping this grow and journal will raise and help answer some of these issues, and help people who are considering LED's make a good decision.
Glad you're on-board bro, I appreciate your comments and feedback.
Simply because that's what I'm familiar with and I wanted to reduce the number of variables as much as possible.
I have no particular loyalty to dirt, it's just what I've been playing in
That's exactly how I'm approaching this comparison, from the perspective of a consumer/customer, so indeed I am striving to be like your personal consumer reports writer
. High Kathypil! Welcome to 420Mag!
Growers are going to have different reasons for considering LED's. You seem to be looking for a reasonable yield along with less heat during summer. Others may be more interested in reasonable yield combined with energy savings, and there are probably other needs being considered that LED's might be able to fill.
One other benefit of LED's I don't hear discussed much is less risk of damage to my eyes and skin from exposure when I tend my plants. This benefit probably isn't very important to most growers, but it will factor in to some degree for me.
I'm hoping this grow and journal will raise and help answer some of these issues, and help people who are considering LED's make a good decision.
Glad you're on-board bro, I appreciate your comments and feedback
. Simply because that's what I'm familiar with and I wanted to reduce the number of variables as much as possible.
I have no particular loyalty to dirt, it's just what I've been playing in
Retired One
420 Member
Re: Hosted Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED
SS, glad to see you working this grow. I'm setting back quietly and watching this. And just my two cents on yield...obviously we want total weight numbers...but with the difference in wattage, a gram per watt analysis seems the most accurate reading of performance...so make sure you post some total weights so those of us who feel like this can sort it out ourselves. I can't help but feel, with the wattage difference, this is a little like comparing apples to oranges, but the information generated in this grow, from someone who isn't selling something, will be invaluable in determining whether or not the technology is here.
+Rep for putting your head in the tiger's mouth
SS, glad to see you working this grow. I'm setting back quietly and watching this. And just my two cents on yield...obviously we want total weight numbers...but with the difference in wattage, a gram per watt analysis seems the most accurate reading of performance...so make sure you post some total weights so those of us who feel like this can sort it out ourselves. I can't help but feel, with the wattage difference, this is a little like comparing apples to oranges, but the information generated in this grow, from someone who isn't selling something, will be invaluable in determining whether or not the technology is here.
+Rep for putting your head in the tiger's mouth
Re: Hosted Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED
Hey SS,
have you got a wattage meter?
Would be interesting to see what these lights really drain.
Especially the 126 with the 6 fans.
Also, could you comment on the heat of the units to the touch while they are running?
Does one feel hotter than the other?
Are both similar in heat?
Thanks
Hey SS,
have you got a wattage meter?
Would be interesting to see what these lights really drain.
Especially the 126 with the 6 fans.
Also, could you comment on the heat of the units to the touch while they are running?
Does one feel hotter than the other?
Are both similar in heat?
Thanks
The Lurker
New Member
Re: Hosted Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED
Hi SS,
While you're at it - I have some internal notes on LEDs some folks may be interested in, based on the actual 'light board' (i.e. the footprint of the LEDs themselves, not including the casing or 'margin' between the LED emitters and the edge of the fixture) and the lens angle. I already have #'s for the HGL units, I now need approximate figures for HSS.
My assumption (until I saw your face-on pics) was that the margin for the HSS lights was ~1", so the LED 'footprint' was closer to 13" x 18" (15" x 20" minus the 1" lip). From your pics, the margin appears closer to ~2" or greater. Could you tell me if that is accurate? (i.e. what's the distance from the outermost LED lens to the side of the casing from the sides?)
I'll be happy to put up my #'s when I've cleaned them up a bit. Should be interesting!
Thanks very much!
Regards,
-TL
Hi SS,
While you're at it - I have some internal notes on LEDs some folks may be interested in, based on the actual 'light board' (i.e. the footprint of the LEDs themselves, not including the casing or 'margin' between the LED emitters and the edge of the fixture) and the lens angle. I already have #'s for the HGL units, I now need approximate figures for HSS.
My assumption (until I saw your face-on pics) was that the margin for the HSS lights was ~1", so the LED 'footprint' was closer to 13" x 18" (15" x 20" minus the 1" lip). From your pics, the margin appears closer to ~2" or greater. Could you tell me if that is accurate? (i.e. what's the distance from the outermost LED lens to the side of the casing from the sides?)
I'll be happy to put up my #'s when I've cleaned them up a bit. Should be interesting!
Thanks very much!
Regards,
-TL
1234a5678b
New Member
Re: Hosted Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED
Thanks for the reply and for doing this test. More interested in how well the technology works as opposed to who wins. If these perform half as well as the ads claim, they would be great for paitients doing small grows. Following with interest.
Thanks for the reply and for doing this test. More interested in how well the technology works as opposed to who wins. If these perform half as well as the ads claim, they would be great for paitients doing small grows. Following with interest.
Re: Hosted Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED
We know by now that LED's perform well for vegetative growth, and both of these panels should do fine with that.
The question remains as to how they perform in the bloom cycle, and my interest is split about 50/50 between how well the technology works overall, and which light can produce the most bud.
I agree that if they perform half as well as claimed, they would be great for patients doing small personal grows.
Both companies also have smaller and less powerful models would be suitable for even smaller grow spaces. HGL has a 63w model, and HSS has a 90w model.
thanks 123a5678b!
We know by now that LED's perform well for vegetative growth, and both of these panels should do fine with that.
The question remains as to how they perform in the bloom cycle, and my interest is split about 50/50 between how well the technology works overall, and which light can produce the most bud.
I agree that if they perform half as well as claimed, they would be great for patients doing small personal grows.
Both companies also have smaller and less powerful models would be suitable for even smaller grow spaces. HGL has a 63w model, and HSS has a 90w model.
thanks 123a5678b!
1234a5678b
New Member
Re: Hosted Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED
Thanks again. Not much info out there on the flowering capabillities other than advertisements by people who have a financial interest in selling these products.
That doesn't mean their claims are untrue, it just makes me a bit skeptical. Nice grow box setup, by the way.
Thanks again. Not much info out there on the flowering capabillities other than advertisements by people who have a financial interest in selling these products.
That doesn't mean their claims are untrue, it just makes me a bit skeptical. Nice grow box setup, by the way.
Re: Hosted Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED
I really can't wait for this grow to unfold. I've been wanting to invest in the HGL product (damn you terrible Cali economy!) and seeing that the HSS LED only weighs in at 3 1/2 pounds, that really intrigues me.
All I ask is that this thread make it to harvest without it being closed down before it ends like so many other LED threads seem to be.
Good luck!
P.S.: I'd love to see the numbers on how many 420Mag users are subscribed to this thread!
I really can't wait for this grow to unfold. I've been wanting to invest in the HGL product (damn you terrible Cali economy!) and seeing that the HSS LED only weighs in at 3 1/2 pounds, that really intrigues me.
All I ask is that this thread make it to harvest without it being closed down before it ends like so many other LED threads seem to be.
Good luck!
P.S.: I'd love to see the numbers on how many 420Mag users are subscribed to this thread!
Slowpuffer
Well-Known Member
Re: Hosted Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED
We'll know around the middle of feb. ?? It's gonna be like watching a snail race and wanting both to win !! I think this is about as fair of a demonstration, as we're gonna see. Go SS !!
Re: Hosted Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED
Hi TL!
I'm going to update and answer questions later tonight, but I wanted to get the info you requested back to you.
The spacing of the LED's from the edge along the long sides is approximately 53mm, and along the short sides it's approximately 50mm.
looking forward to your info!
Hi TL!
I'm going to update and answer questions later tonight, but I wanted to get the info you requested back to you.
The spacing of the LED's from the edge along the long sides is approximately 53mm, and along the short sides it's approximately 50mm.
looking forward to your info!
Re: Hosted Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED
Hi SouthernWeed!, and thanks for your comments and support.
I plan to carefully document total dry weights for both tents. I don't do wet weights, so it will be at least a couple of weeks after harvest, but I will provide the numbers.
I'm glad that my impartiality helps to provide confidence and credibility. There's way too much BS flying around concerning this technology. I'm not addressing that comment to HGL or HSS, but the industry they're in has been tainted by a lot of wild claims by vendors and subsequent disappointment from consumers.
thanks again brother
Hi SouthernWeed!, and thanks for your comments and support
.I plan to carefully document total dry weights for both tents. I don't do wet weights, so it will be at least a couple of weeks after harvest, but I will provide the numbers.
I'm glad that my impartiality helps to provide confidence and credibility. There's way too much BS flying around concerning this technology. I'm not addressing that comment to HGL or HSS, but the industry they're in has been tainted by a lot of wild claims by vendors and subsequent disappointment from consumers.
thanks again brother
MI-grower
Well-Known Member
Re: Hosted Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED
I have got to keep an eye on ur journal here bro. I don't know squat about lights so this will be very helpful and informative, reading about the two different styles of lights you are testing. + reps SS.
Dude I'm gonna sit back and
then 
and try to learn something.
I have got to keep an eye on ur journal here bro. I don't know squat about lights so this will be very helpful and informative, reading about the two different styles of lights you are testing. + reps SS.
Dude I'm gonna sit back and
then and try to learn something.
Re: Hosted Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED
No maintenance information was included with the lights.
I could not locate any information on lifespan expectation on Hydro Grow's website. I was concerned about fan failure and replacement, and I asked HGL about this in a previous thread. Their response was that in the case of fan failure, they could be replaced by the user with telephone guidance from the company.
The following is what I found at Haight's website:
"All of the components used in our lights were designed for long life, we don't use electrolytic capacitors in our power circuits since they can wear out. Our lights are a good value because of the simple design, not by using low cost components."
The opening post of this journal has clickable links to both companies for additional info. If there is more than the above, I couldn't find it.
thanks brother!
No maintenance information was included with the lights.
I could not locate any information on lifespan expectation on Hydro Grow's website. I was concerned about fan failure and replacement, and I asked HGL about this in a previous thread. Their response was that in the case of fan failure, they could be replaced by the user with telephone guidance from the company.
The following is what I found at Haight's website:
"All of the components used in our lights were designed for long life, we don't use electrolytic capacitors in our power circuits since they can wear out. Our lights are a good value because of the simple design, not by using low cost components."
The opening post of this journal has clickable links to both companies for additional info. If there is more than the above, I couldn't find it.
thanks brother!
Re: Hosted Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED
My agenda is to see what these lights can do, and to grow as much bud as I can
the grow room continues to get getting dialed-in, thanks!
thanks Slowpuffer!
I'd love to have a time machine myself.
I can't be thinkin' of harvest dates before the seeds have sprouted, lol.
thanks for subscribing MI-grower!
these lights are fairly new technology so we're all learning.
My agenda is to see what these lights can do, and to grow as much bud as I can
the grow room continues to get getting dialed-in, thanks!
We'll know around the middle of feb. ?? It's gonna be like watching a snail race and wanting both to win !! I think this is about as fair of a demonstration, as we're gonna see. Go SS !!
thanks Slowpuffer!
I'd love to have a time machine myself
.I can't be thinkin' of harvest dates before the seeds have sprouted, lol.
I have got to keep an eye on ur journal here bro. I don't know squat about lights so this will be very helpful and informative, reading about the two different styles of lights you are testing. + reps SS.
Dude I'm gonna sit back and
thanks for subscribing MI-grower!
these lights are fairly new technology so we're all learning
.