Grow room build round three: Full environment control and no compromises

[SmokeyMcFly]

Well, i'm here...ffs! I spend way too much time on this forum....why am i only finding out about this now???????I skipped a few pages...no time right now....
Anyhow, thanks for the invite Smokey...your set up is most awesome bud! I am VERY envious of all the space you have, not to mention the kick ass back yard.....i want another turn....PFFT! cheers bud!

Thanks! I totally thought you were one of the first people that subbed for some reason...


No worries the end of a build is more interesting than the beginning anyway stuff is just now getting fun it was mostly building and finishing walls and install work up until about a week ago when the grow equipment finally started to go in.

Welcome

 

[Stu]

Thanks!

Nice job your setup it’s super clean my ceiling looks like a spider web of wires and vent tubing

What size tent is that and how much of it do you think gets covered enough with just the hlg?

Thanks I’ve tried to keep tidy as possible, it’s a 5x5 tent. I was able borrow a par meter from my local hydro shop and it seems I don’t loose much until after 4 feet out, There’s currently 5 plants in there, the 4 bigger girls fit nicely under the light but the fifth plant is off to the side so I was finding the bud sites in the furthest corner were lacking light so I put the cheapo directly over that plant in the corner. If I remember correctly they recommended the 600v2 for 5x5 for veg and coverage of 4x4 in flower.

 

[SmokeyMcFly]

Thanks I’ve tried to keep tidy as possible, it’s a 5x5 tent. I was able borrow a par meter from my local hydro shop and it seems I don’t loose much until after 4 feet out, There’s currently 5 plants in there, the 4 bigger girls fit nicely under the light but the fifth plant is off to the side so I was finding the bud sites in the furthest corner were lacking light so I put the cheapo directly over that plant in the corner. If I remember correctly they recommended the 600v2 for 5x5 for veg and coverage of 4x4 in flower.

Thanks for the info. I never know if they mean it will cover 4x4 for realz or a 4x4 tent that doesn’t care about the last six inches on each side since they’re basically growing against the walls at that point anyway. It will be awesome to be able to take lights on pictures that’s aren’t all purple and hard to see if nothing else I had a filter for my camera that worked great with the mars hydro lights but not so good with the platinum lights spectrum.

 

[Duggan]

Thanks! I totally thought you were one of the first people that subbed for some reason...


No worries the end of a build is more interesting than the beginning anyway stuff is just now getting fun it was mostly building and finishing walls and install work up until about a week ago when the grow equipment finally started to go in.

Welcome

Ya know.........come to think of it ...something isn't right here about that Smokey........
Anyhow, glad i'm here....great grows comin up ...and an awesome crowd in the place too....i'l just set my cooler close by your chair there Mr!........It's the one , with that Bob Marley poster on it...you've seen it...
Woulda bin cool if the gang coulda piched in on your 'trades' work . Neiko coulda provided all the HVAC work, i woulda done the electrical...frig sakes,..there ya go ....no labor costs.....but wat if we just decided to smoke ,...instead..
Cheers eh...

 

[Neiko]

Yeah Duggs, I prefer to smoke than work.

 

[SmokeyMcFly]

Ya know.........come to think of it ...something isn't right here about that Smokey........
Anyhow, glad i'm here....great grows comin up ...and an awesome crowd in the place too....i'l just set my cooler close by your chair there Mr!........It's the one , with that Bob Marley poster on it...you've seen it...
Woulda bin cool if the gang coulda piched in on your 'trades' work . Neiko coulda provided all the HVAC work, i woulda done the electrical...frig sakes,..there ya go ....no labor costs.....but wat if we just decided to smoke ,...instead..
Cheers eh...

A friend of mine here that does commercial construction did all the hard work and installed the mini-split and elec etc with a couple of his coworkers helping with the specialized stuff like elec work. Neiko helped me figure out what size mini split I needed though I was originally looking at the next smaller size which would of been a horrible idea. I really don't know how you missed this im pretty sure I stopped by to invite you when I started it but your journal moves so fast it probably got lost in the mix. In the end I paid less for all of the work than the mini-split would of cost to have installed so not to bad but it would of been awesome to have an excuse for you guys to come out for a visit. I agree with Neiko though a vacation sounds like a better excuse than work and then i'll actually have some bud ready to go instead of just some started plants that we can't smoke...

Cheers bud

 

[SmokeyMcFly]

Oh almost forgot the duhuey showed up early.

Couple shots of the babies

Cherry Queen

Ace Purple Haze x Malawi, shes finally starting to look happy-ish she did not like the closet one bit. Well hopefully its a she...

 

[Neiko]

You better flip that Purple Haze x Malawi pretty quick. If it's a haze leaner she'll stretch to the moon and run about 20 weeks. The smoke will be killer though. I just got a couple more Panama Haze beans to run. I've run it once and it was unruly but the smoke is very old school.

I'm definitely going to make out your way in the future. Hell, I don't care about gambling, I just want to sit in that back yard of yours and smoke til I pass out.

 

[SmokeyMcFly]

You better flip that Purple Haze x Malawi pretty quick. If it's a haze leaner she'll stretch to the moon and run about 20 weeks. The smoke will be killer though. I just got a couple more Panama Haze beans to run. I've run it once and it was unruly but the smoke is very old school.

I'm definitely going to make out your way in the future. Hell, I don't care about gambling, I just want to sit in that back yard of yours and smoke til I pass out.

Think I should flip it in the one gal for the first month? I don't have enough soil for anymore up-pots until the end of the month. Maybe i'll try and keep it happy in the one gal in veg until then and then take a cut to flower instead, now you have me worried...

We don't gamble often at all either. I played poker for basically a full time job for a couple years in AC before moving out here and thought I would be back at it but its not as easy to make money as it used to be. I cleared solid 1k profit a week for a couple years straight back then while still managing to keep a full time job somehow lol I think im just to old for it at this point I'd rather trade stocks and crypto currency than go to the casino. Smoking in the back yard until passout time is a favorite activity around here btw

 

[Neiko]

Think I should flip it in the one gal for the first month? I don't have enough soil for anymore up-pots until the end of the month. Maybe i'll try and keep it happy in the one gal in veg until then and then take a cut to flower instead, now you have me worried...

It will depend on what Malawi they used. If it's the old killer pheno you could be in trouble. The new killer pheno really tames the hybrid and you could treat like any other plant. I think you should definitely top it, I topped mine the day before I flipped it and that's what saved me. It gave me massive twin colas at those site too. If you have enough soil to put her in 3 gallon, do that and flip. Once she's done stretching say around week 5-6 from flip transplant her into a 10 to finish. @Graytail suggested this and he has great success doing it.

 

[Duggan]

Wat he ^ said!

 

[SmokeyMcFly]

It will depend on what Malawi they used. If it's the old killer pheno you could be in trouble. The new killer pheno really tames the hybrid and you could treat like any other plant. I think you should definitely top it, I topped mine the day before I flipped it and that's what saved me. It gave me massive twin colas at those site too. If you have enough soil to put her in 3 gallon, do that and flip. Once she's done stretching say around week 5-6 from flip transplant her into a 10 to finish. @Graytail suggested this and he has great success doing it.

Pretty sure it was the old one. The seeds came from the seeds they used to produce the original limited edition run of it with years ago. I think I had ordered the normal limited feminized ones but they had ran out and sent me some of theirs cause they felt bad. I like the sound of greys method a lot actually when you give them huge pots for stretch them they can go crazy. I don’t think I have enough to pull it off and still be able to add a bit to my other vegging plants to try and keep them healthy for another month but I might just sacrifice them to the soil and be done with it they already look sad anyway. I was kinda waiting so I could clone the p haze but I have more seeds and not many free slots on my limit atm so maybe I’ll just top it and flip her in a 3 gal softie then I can just drop the whole thing in a bigger pot later. Thanks for the advice I forgot I even needed to top her been so busy thinking about the setup stuff the plants are getting a bit neglected

 

[SmokeyMcFly]

Got the new light in with the two platinums on the edges I have really strong even coverage everywhere except the corner the fans are in. There are currently around 8-900 umols at the canopy or w/e the par meters read out in I’m still not entirely sure. They have been at around 600 for the last week so I didn’t want to push it to much. The one on the left in the picture is turned off now till I have more plants in there. Also humidity is no longer a problem and I had to drop the ac a couple degrees

 

[Graytail]

Love them QBs!

 

[SmokeyMcFly]

Love them QBs!

It’s kind of amazing how bright it is, my tent has light leaking out of places I never even knew existed

 

[JustMeds]

QB is it. I built my 550 over a year ago. What driver are they using now?

 

[SmokeyMcFly]

QB is it. I built my 550 over a year ago. What driver are they using now?

Not sure to be honest, I tried to look it up but its not listed Once the comes on i'll crawl up then and find out for you

 

[SmokeyMcFly]

QB is it. I built my 550 over a year ago. What driver are they using now?

This what you were looking for?

 

[JustMeds]

Mine is just not as new and shiny.

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• JustMeds
• Mar 9, 2019

HLG 550 driver.

 

[Bigworm1982]

Thanks, I told him it was a workshop and of course he's like oh your handy and like to build stuff and im like well no it's mostly for the wife I'm pretty sure he blazes so once I know for sure I'll share and then just show it to him. I was much more secret last time around and it was kind of annoying. I work from home and pretty much never leave the house, between the dogs, cameras, alarms and guns the only thing someone is going to get if they break in here is shot so im not all that much worried about it.


Thanks are those fluence and quantum boards using 1w chips? The fluence boards say to keep 6" away from plants which probably wont work for me I have had plants grow that much in a single day before


Me too I don't think they tried it yet, will let you know once they do im sure they will be


Electrition came yesterday and discovered I had a breaker that wasn't being used we didn't know about so im getting a dedicated 20amp circuit ran to the room just for my lights. I also have access to a 15 and a 20amp line in the room that doesn't have much on it but I don't want to load them up then not be able to run a vacum in the garage or something without worrying about tripping breakers. He got the majority of the wiring done for the mini split and needs to come back to finish it and run the new circuit since we didn't know it was available. I was also able to light proof the garage door which is awesome and opens up the possibility of growing directly in the room without a tent if I end up going that way. I also talked the wife into getting her card again so I don't have to worry about plant limits will be able to have 24 going at a time legally, custom crosses here I come

Couple pics of the work that got done.
Elec boxes for the inside ac and dedicated circuit.

Tail for my dedicated outlet and box where the elec comes in for inside ac unit. The garage door opener rails are getting cut off after the part the supports the top of the door so they wont be in the way and im going to take the actual opener down. Im past the point of ever trying to revert this back to a garage space if I ever sell the house I will sell it as a 2 car garage with an AC'd workshop which would be a great feature for lots of buyers in vegas, most people use the third bay as a work area or storage anyway.

Conduit to run the elec for the inside ac unit and the circuit.

It ain't pretty but not a single photon is making it through all that foam....

See

I think I decided on a layout. The scale in the drawing is a bit wonky but me and the wife just got done measuring everything and figuring out how to shoehorn everything in. Gonna be another busy weekend

So im a bit late but what about water? Do you have water in the room? I found that a sink and a few water sources made a huge difference.