Groovy Bud's Revenge Grow Journal - Super Lemon Haze & Blue Dream DWC

[Groovy Bud]

My last thoughts seem to have turned reality.

With an E.C. of just 2.1-2.3, just after 6 hours of the new nutes (canna aqua flores) I stumbled into very tiny yellowing tips on fan leaves. They were very very small yet, but I think I've picked up on it early on, and proceeded to dilute 10 more Liters (aprox. 2,6 gallons) into each res. Downed it back to 1.9. of E.C.

So it really is something to take into consideration. Higher E.C. doesn't mean better nutrition. Having an easily uptakable substract can burn your plants (as well as feed them nicely) without requiring high E.C. values.

I also think Blue Dream and SLH, even if they are described as hybrid, they seem to be more sativa than indica, which means they react better to "lower" EC rather than higher ones.

Quality over quantity. Another lesson learned

 

[CajunCelt]

Yeah, anything much over 2.0 & you risk nute burn. Not really any benefit to going higher. They'll keep feeding hard for a fee more weeks than mellow out.
BD & the Haze are definitely sativa dominant hybrids.
A few weeks will be alot of difference.

 

[CajunCelt]

P.S. Try Kind by Botanicare someday. Very customizable for the transition periods.

 

[Groovy Bud]

@ Cajun, that's another brand only available to US regions. Trust me, it's hard living the other way across the sea, when it comes to growing, we are clearly underdeveloped market-wise, obviously.

Following issue in the grow room now: Tilting netpots which aren't tightly secured into their own sockets on the reservoir's lid. It's a matter of balance, but as I've done that main stem bending early in veg, the plant's center of gravity is deslocated to one side, causing the tilting on a non-tight netpot socket. I have achieved to fit in a folded piece of paper in that gap that locks the netpot in place (although it is not doing a perfect job).

Plants get tilted and I take shitloads of time to get them back set up and secured in there... It's sad, as this wouldn't be hapenning if I had more $$$ to invest into a shop hydro system, instead of my DIY fail. Well it suited right until the plants gained more weight.

So this means that my canopy is not leveled again. This is only hapenning in the Blue Dream reservoir. on both netpots

I will find a solution for this to survive till the end of this growing round.

There's quite a lot to learn about growing, especially if you have to consider $$$, stealthiness, and time/effort.

I can do better, I know it.

 

[Scarfinger68]

My last thoughts seem to have turned reality.

With an E.C. of just 2.1-2.3, just after 6 hours of the new nutes (canna aqua flores) I stumbled into very tiny yellowing tips on fan leaves. They were very very small yet, but I think I've picked up on it early on, and proceeded to dilute 10 more Liters (aprox. 2,6 gallons) into each res. Downed it back to 1.9. of E.C.

So it really is something to take into consideration. Higher E.C. doesn't mean better nutrition. Having an easily uptakable substract can burn your plants (as well as feed them nicely) without requiring high E.C. values.

I also think Blue Dream and SLH, even if they are described as hybrid, they seem to be more sativa than indica, which means they react better to "lower" EC rather than higher ones.

Quality over quantity. Another lesson learned

I think this is a common mistake in a lot of soil grows. People always want the best, biggest buds so they over fertilize and end up burning their plant. Then... low PH causes a nute lockup and things go down hill from there.

I only use 1/2 the recommended fert strength for FoxFarms soil schedules.

+ reps on learning something from experience

 

[Groovy Bud]

Cheers Scarfinger! Experience is rather important compared to theorical knowledge when it comes to growing.

Regarding the next issue: I need to change my ladies disposition in the room. This will be an hard task, as my reservoirs are not very movable and there is an high risk of damage when moving things around.

20% of SLH 1 is being shaded by the carbon filter, thus, I need to change their placing. I cannot rotate the netpots only, I need to rotate the whole reservoir + lid.

I should have done this early on when they were smaller, but I had different plans by then.

Now this difficult task is to be done, ASAP, but I don't have any help from people around this time. It requires great dexterity and planning to do it safely, without breaking stems while moving around.

This adaptation will let me access the tent in a more safe way, securing the netpots that have been tilting (the issue I described a couple of days ago) and revealing that shaded part of SLH#1.

I will be away for a week soon, and I must have the tent set up in a very secure way, so the person in charge can quickly and safely do the maintenance job without fucking it all up.

I'm also worried about myself for worrying too much with the grow during the day or "off-time". I really need to plan things ahead from the start so I can rest peacefully knowing everything is secured later throughout the grow. I could have avoided so many things if I had made my own SCRoG net and set it up early on.

Anyway...

 

[CareStaker]

You can't move the carbon filter...?

It sounds precarious to move ... dunno if a couple of shaded colas is worth it. Can you supercrop them into the light or reconfigure something to get them light? Be safe brother Groovy.

 

[Scarfinger68]

Cheers Scarfinger! Experience is rather important compared to theorical knowledge when it comes to growing.

Regarding the next issue: I need to change my ladies disposition in the room. This will be an hard task, as my reservoirs are not very movable and there is an high risk of damage when moving things around.

20% of SLH 1 is being shaded by the carbon filter, thus, I need to change their placing. I cannot rotate the netpots only, I need to rotate the whole reservoir + lid.

Worst case scenario... Considering they have stopped stretching? Just cut them at the level they need to be. Yes you will be removing the prime main cola... but... It is a weed. The underneath buds will get more light and hormones will encourage their development.

Don't risk hurting yourself to move them or breaking something that may destroy your grow? It may seem severe, but if you're only like around day 21 to 30 I think this option should be considered.

 

[Groovy Bud]

So we are at about day 32 of Flowering.

I have managed to spend a good whole evening, some days ago, rotating my reservoirs and so I've good light coverage again. Still, some buds/leaves have had some heat stress signs, but they are no longer in risk now. It was hard and dangerous work, but it was sucessfuly accomplished.

Supercropping and bending have turned buds away from dangerous proximity to bulb's heat.

Although I've been having heat issues I can't control. Mini clip fans are out of stock everywhere around here, and I can't have a standing oscilattory fan due to space limitations. I have opened vents lateraly which, due to negative pressure of exhaust, they keep pumping in fresh air, blowing hot air away from coalas.

Summer + Stretchy Plants + No Cool-Tube + No fan = Curling tips at canopy level.
But it is controlled now, and there are no more "heat burns" on buds nor leaves. Next time, I'll need to take more notice into this.

Overall Blury Pic Remember they don't all fit the lenses, so some are some buds missing there.

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The missing room angle Super Lemon Haze 2 that is

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Two Blue Dream #1 Coalas

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SLH #1 Coala that has suffered from heat burn on the past. Although it was surely gaining weight now that heat is controlled

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This was another top that was burned a bit. SLH #1

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Skinny SLH #2 Bent Coala

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I will be away for a week, for well deserved vacations.
The grow room will be attended by someone of trust, who will be consuming the resulting meds for a disease.

I've been kinda depressed lately, maybe that's one of the reasons I haven't been around. Still, it doesn't mean I've forgotten about you guys, nor my own ladies.

Stay tuned for a update within a week or so. Fingers crossed for explosive fatenning.

 

[Whitty08]

Ladies are looking good. Really putting the weight on! Sorry to hear about some of the leaves getting a little burnt. Have fun on the vacation!

 

[jojo677]

They look good to me! A little heat stress for the leaves maybe, but the buds still look healthy - all the pistols are still white. Looks like they're getting a bit out of control!

 

[CareStaker]

Leaf posture looks good, and the buds are filling in - they look happy.

 

[CajunCelt]

Looking awesome over there bud.
Revenge is almost complete!

 

[Groovy Bud]

48th FLOWERING DAY UPDATE

Hello everyone. I hope you guys are having a wonderful Summer.

I'm sorry for such delay, but I had to take some more time off for vacation.

Regarding the grow, I've concluded a lot of points that I need to upgrade for next time:

1. I need clip-fans for air circulation. Those of the kind that can be held to a vertical tent's arm. Out of stock currently.
2. I'll need an air-cooled reflector for improved reflection and heat protection. Sputniks are well-known reflectors. The issue here is that the back side and tip side of the bulb aren't putting any decent light, so I'm always lacking light on some areas, thus needing to rotate the hood.
3. A new hydro reservoir or system as the current one lacks mobility as each reservoir is being shared by 2 ladies. I also have hard times overcoming overshading tops because the netpots are close to each other (altho, they are as much apart as they can possibly be)
4 I need to set up a DIY ScroG net. A factory made one doesn't suit the tent well. I need to think of a stable and movable system that I can implement earlier on the vegetation phase so I can control light's coverage evenly to each stem.

Pictures

BLUE DREAM #1 Zone

BLUE DREAM #2 Zone This one is more pushed into the corner. It's sad. I could have had a ScroG net.

SUPER LEMON HAZE #1 Zone At the moment, I'm not getting as much out of 2 of this lady's branches as I'd like because they are on the bulb's "dead" angle. In order to get those highlighted I'd have to sacrifice shading many others. -1 for the light's hood.

SUPER LEMON HAZE #2 Zone Pushed into the corner. It's kinda of a mess.

BD #1 Budporn

BD #2 Budporn

SLH # 1 Bent Coala

SLH #1 Buds

Mix of SLH #1 and SLH #2

Peaking out of a tent, here is a SLH #2 Bud

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At the moment, I'd like to know your opinion on feedings again.
I've been maintaining the E.C. @ around 2.1 now. It was climbing a bit when I was aiming for 2.2.-2.3 of nutes.
Still, it still climbs a bit everyday, but not much.
Canna says that at the 3rd phase of flowering (about 3 weeks before harvest - when they fatten up) I should be using a lower E.C. ranging from 1.4-1.8.
I'm changing my nutes tomorrow and I was wondering if I really should lower those Base Nutrients, keep adding Overdrive and Bud Candy (sugars) and maybe burst a bit with 50% dosage of PK boost.

I know I should have used PK 13/14 earlier around 5th-6th week but I was out of town and could not be experimenting by then.
Still the bottle says I should use it 3 weeks before harvest. Since my strains are aprox 9 weeks of flowering, and I'm at day 48, I'm not that much off schedule.

THANKS FOR STEPPING BY!

 

[CajunCelt]

Yes sir. Looking great. Healthy happy trees.
And yes, after the 5th week, start lowering the EC. You'll be lowering the base nutes.

 

[jojo677]

Looking awesome! Glad to have you back. I can't help out with the feedings, but cajun has you covered!

 

[CareStaker]

Looking good brother. Sounds like a good feeding plan to me. Peak, then roll off - less is more at the end.

 

[Groovy Bud]

My latest absence doesn't mean I'm not caring nor doing anything over my grow!

I'm sorry, but I'm learning to "let things go naturally" instead of trying too hard, for virtually no extra gain.

Currently, they are almost done with their flowering phase. They are both putting up their last weight and frost.

Still, Blue Dream is known to be a 8-9 week flowering strain while Super Lemon Haze is a 9-10 weeks.

I need to plan this ahead. I have nowhere else to have them sit upside down, in a full darkness and humidity/odor controlled place, than my actual growing tent. This means that for this to work, I must chop both strains down at the same time so I can have them both drying there before trimming. Can you guys recall of any other ideas? Could I postpone Blue dream's harvest for 1 week without any side-effects on it ( 1 week more than what seed manufacterers say)?
The even period for them to be chopped would be at around 9 weeks. I don't yet have a jeweler's lense so I can see those trich's colours. Although I do prefer a more "head-high" than "couch-lock", so maybe chopping down Super Lemon Haze by week 9 (instead of week 10) wouldn't be that bad would it? (Since I think last week of flowering is more put towards ambering trichs rather than fattening right)

Input needed

About flushing, I'm inclined doing it over the last week of flowering. I heard flushing is faster in hydro and there even are people flushing for just 3 days. I do not intend having nutrient flavour or aroma on my buds.

Input needed

Thanks once again,

 

[jojo677]

You can certainly chop the Blue Dream and keep the SLH going. Just cut the branches and hang them in a cardboard box, placed inside the tent. You can leave it cracked open a bit away from the light and drape something over it. This will let more moisture escape for the first few days. I usually close the box after 2-3 days and let it dry until the stem snaps (~65-70% RH).

Here's one of my boxes:

My last grow, I flushed 2 weeks out and I could tell they could have used more nutrients. I'm going to try a 3 day flush with a DIY clearex solution next time, but I'm sure you'd be fine with 7 days. I think the general recommended amount of time is 7-10 days, but I generally have luck with 7.

 

[CajunCelt]

Yep. Use a box or paper sacks. Don't harvest early. The THC may not have built up enough (cloudy trichs).
You absolutely must get a cheap hand microscope or loupe.
Flush 1 week out.
You want to get your sativa gals at mostly cloudy, little to no amber.