DC420
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Loving the ladies they look great.
Gov's Pineapple Chunk Mars II Excursion
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Whats up Governmentchz!!! Loving the journal so far and your plants are looking very healthy, frosty and green 
I just caught up with everything and I have to say that Mars II is putting in some work!!! Excellent job on your journal so far, your grow and I can't wait to see these ladies as they peak into harvest
I just caught up with everything and I have to say that Mars II is putting in some work!!! Excellent job on your journal so far, your grow and I can't wait to see these ladies as they peak into harvest - Thread starter
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Governmentchz
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Whats up Governmentchz!!! Loving the journal so far and your plants are looking very healthy, frosty and green
Thanks Ice. I'm going to post some pictures probably tomorrow afternoon (I haven't taken them yet), but the fan leaves on Lolo are spotting quite a bit. Paka still looks fine and since the new growth all looks good and any noted deficiencies are limited to the fan leaves, so I haven't trimmed them. I can't help but feel they turned a little too early though and don't want any issues bleeding into the final 4 weeks. Last grow, I trimmed everything that even looked questionable and decided not to do that this round. Some of my concern might just be misplaced as I'm seeing them change.
Greetings medo1346. How is what? Just asking for an update? Stay tuned, a full pic update is scheduled soon.
stealthgrow
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They are coming along great Chz. Very nice growth for only day 20+ of flower.
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Governmentchz
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Thanks Stealth. I appreciate you stopping in. If you can, please check back in tomorrow as I'm getting some pics together I may need an opinion on.
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Governmentchz
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Well hey all. Despite a pretty busy (and productive) day in the salt mines, I got home with about 20 minutes to go before lights out. I put what local bass fisherman call a "white-knuckle Florida grip" on my camera and ripped it into the grow room to snap a few before they went night-night. I turned off the Mars II and snapped these under normal light as I wanted to get a decent image of some of the spots on Lolo's fan leaves. Yes, they are isolated to Lolo and only on her fan leaves.
Anyway, take a look. They otherwise are looking quite healthy. Here are a couple of the spots:
This one is of the lanky Paka and one of her buds down at the 5th node:
A few more of some random Paka-porn:
This one has a bud from each of them in the shot. Paka's bud is lower left out of focus. The higher bud on the right is from Lolo. I was really hoping both would be in focus as it would be a good representation of each comparatively in the same frame...meh, oh well:
These are the two both side view and top-down:
...and of course, some Lolo porn. I promised them both stage time:
A quick check of the medium, and it is still very clean-looking. It was about this time last grow that the faint light green hue appeared (though it had no negative effect). These are perly-white:
The temp got up this afternoon, but not untolerable:
That about it for today. This marks day 27 of flowering.
edit: I'm pretty sure I've determined what is affecting the fan leaves. I think it's a manganese deficiency. I had something similar happen on the last grow, but the 8bk is practically bulletproof and the deficiency didn't seem to present itself very profoundly. I've consistently kept the pH at about 5.9 as the full nute regimen sets my RO water right there, and in my laziness I've fed it there...until the last feeding. It takes ~5 drops of pH-down to drop a gallon .1 on the meter and last feeding I dropped it down to 5.7
I may even take it to 5.6 for tomorrow's feeding as manganese is not available in hydro above 5.7
Anyway, take a look. They otherwise are looking quite healthy. Here are a couple of the spots:
This one is of the lanky Paka and one of her buds down at the 5th node:
A few more of some random Paka-porn:
This one has a bud from each of them in the shot. Paka's bud is lower left out of focus. The higher bud on the right is from Lolo. I was really hoping both would be in focus as it would be a good representation of each comparatively in the same frame...meh, oh well:
These are the two both side view and top-down:
...and of course, some Lolo porn. I promised them both stage time:
A quick check of the medium, and it is still very clean-looking. It was about this time last grow that the faint light green hue appeared (though it had no negative effect). These are perly-white:
The temp got up this afternoon, but not untolerable:
That about it for today. This marks day 27 of flowering.
edit: I'm pretty sure I've determined what is affecting the fan leaves. I think it's a manganese deficiency. I had something similar happen on the last grow, but the 8bk is practically bulletproof and the deficiency didn't seem to present itself very profoundly. I've consistently kept the pH at about 5.9 as the full nute regimen sets my RO water right there, and in my laziness I've fed it there...until the last feeding. It takes ~5 drops of pH-down to drop a gallon .1 on the meter and last feeding I dropped it down to 5.7
I may even take it to 5.6 for tomorrow's feeding as manganese is not available in hydro above 5.7
Nice update Govna! It doesn't seem as though the manganese deficiency has effected Lolo much. Not yet anyway. I'm interested to see how this progresses as you lower the ph.
DC420
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Bro the leaves going yellow looks like several things to me. Boron/nitrogen def with a ph change. To me 3 things mean salt lock most likely. Again what nutes you using? i know its in your thread but i am high and way too busy to reread it all. i read 50 threads in several sites. If you got a salt flushing nute use it. After you have checked your ph run off if you can. hope you get her figured out soon those leaves are needed for her to grow right.
edit: i also see leave drooping that tells me its in the roots bro. so check ph run off and if its good you need to cleanse her of the salts and feed her more grow with your bloom nutes.
edit: i also see leave drooping that tells me its in the roots bro. so check ph run off and if its good you need to cleanse her of the salts and feed her more grow with your bloom nutes.
timothypaul26
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Governmentchz
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Thanks guys. I'm reading reams right now and appreciate the input. I don't think I'm in danger at this point and using the formula I am, it looks like there are a couple intrinsic possibilities. My main desire is to ensure I have severe deficiencies arrested, and at this point I may as new growth is still looking good. Indications are they are starting to swell and add weight to the bud sites. Trichome production is good for this stage also and some of the "waxy" leaves are starting to bead the resin quite well. I will have another update this weekend when I have a bit more time to get in there, fondle them a bit and take some decent pictures.
timothypaul26
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My initial thought is cal\mag deficiency. I'd be interested in how you treat, and what results you get.
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Governmentchz
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Yes, last grow, KJC suggested I increase my Cal/Mg supplement as I had dropped it to half-strength. I increased it back to 5ml/gal and things progressed well to the end. This grow I've kept the CaliMagic supplement at recommended strength (5ml/gl) the whole time. I'm inclined to think there is something intrinsic to the transition from grow to bloom phases that I'm missing with these nutes. I'll advise as to what I find and do. My gut is telling me to push on through. We'll see.
DC420
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yeah i say it is looking for something it can find so it is pulling it from the leaves. At the point you are it doesn't matter much bro. they will finish good even if you dont figure it out. I switched my nute line so i dont wont have nute issues also. Mine are way worse than yours bro and mine will finish good also. Well my fan leaves like 60% are dead and 20% more are 1/2 dead lmao. makes it easy to trim at harvest. As long as the buds keep plumping up i dont care cause mine have so many trics it is amazing.
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Governmentchz
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lol...you guessed it. My intention is to push on through too. They smell amazing and aside from the spotting on the large, old fan leaves they're doing great. I WILL drop pH to 5.7 for the next 2 feedings (should be Friday and Sunday) then re-assess Monday afternoon. I trimmed fan leaves the entire duration of the grow last time, and that's one of the things I wanted to do differently this time, so letting them go.
HELP needed Guirilla growing here, plant problems "in my gallery" please look and comment?
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Governmentchz
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It's kind of convoluted to get to your pics GrowKobra and also difficult to understand what's happening with them without alot of the other details. That kind of plant wrinkling can be a number of things though. Sorry man. I wish I could be more helpful.
DaddiSwanga
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So far so good!
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Governmentchz
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Good evening all. I was sitting here admiring the pineapple princesses and decided to put forth a picture update. Lolo's fan leaves continue to spot, but with 3-4 weeks to go, she'll be fine. Her buds have started to fatten just a bit too and I gave them a nice drink of water this morning buffered with half-strength A and B only (510ppm, pH 5.7). They are still drinking a lot so I am scheduled to feed them tomorrow morning.
One interesting thing I've tried to demonstrate in these pics are the oddly shaped buds on Paka. They seem to have developed little knuckles and they are as hard as marbles. Also, I was able to get a decent picture with a top cola of each in the frame. Like last time, it looks like two phenotypes of the same strain...yummy.
These are of a few of the buds in the middle of the pack and about 24" from the light.
...and Paka's Knuckle buds
All of Paka's nodes look like this all the way down to the bottom...seriously
A few random shots
So, that's about it for this Saturday evening. Catching up on Falling Skies marathon.
peace
One interesting thing I've tried to demonstrate in these pics are the oddly shaped buds on Paka. They seem to have developed little knuckles and they are as hard as marbles. Also, I was able to get a decent picture with a top cola of each in the frame. Like last time, it looks like two phenotypes of the same strain...yummy.
These are of a few of the buds in the middle of the pack and about 24" from the light.
...and Paka's Knuckle buds
All of Paka's nodes look like this all the way down to the bottom...seriously
A few random shots
So, that's about it for this Saturday evening. Catching up on Falling Skies marathon.
peace
wildjim
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Sure looks sweet Gov. Man I like that box. Need to be 4x4 with a 5,ooo BTU A/C in the back. Mars II 700 gets hot. I'll be watching for your harvest.
CCOiler
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Subscribed Governmentchz, I've read your 8BK journal, good read and I may just run the 8 Ball Kush my first run. Thank you for the info, off to finish reading this journal.