GiGaBaNE's 3rd & Final Journal - At Least Until I Change Country

[nugman]

hey guys new to the thread but im subbed
i think im with spring2012 here, i do enjoy certain aspects of auto's enough to continue to grow them and if done well a nice little yield can be achieved, especially because you can fit a larger number of them per grow site

 

[GigaGrew]

definatly! autos are underestimated.
without a shed load of expensive equipment its just not possible(indoor) to drop a seed in a pot and come back 60-90 days later to collect your bud...with autos all you need is decent soil, a dripping tap and a light on.

also autos are still in their infant stages. it needs decent breeders to sift through the various phenos untill we actually get some strains that rival regular plants. i believe that a KC45 x Bigbud(2) has that potential.

we have all heard by now that ruderalis is the cause of auto, but most people dont know that the bulk of autos are actually a lowryder cross and not true breeding with a rudi.

obviously untill i have a few generations out of the way i cant be sure, but if i make that cross, back cross it once to the kc45, that should make it roughly equal parts rudi,brazilian sativa and bigbud. if all goes to plan (and when does it ever, lol) we will have a plant half the height of a typical sativa but twice as wide, with a soaring high and massive buds.

autos feel natural for me where regular plants need my divine intervention to successfully make buds and not hermie and all that and they are so sensitive when in flower.

autos may not be the best yielders (yet), but they are more robust, easier to grow and often take less time. whats not to like =D

my 4th journal, while it may take a couple of years, will publicly iron out any myths and truths it can.

lets think of it this way. an auto now is like an auto car. just think how many people would drive an auto if gear changes were instant and full torque was preserved. well i dont know how to fix the gearbox of a car, but i see what can be done for our plants =D

 

[GigaGrew]

hey guys new to the thread but im subbed
i think im with spring2012 here, i do enjoy certain aspects of auto's enough to continue to grow them and if done well a nice little yield can be achieved, especially because you can fit a larger number of them per grow site

good to have you along my friend...be sure to follow my 4th grow, should be tons better than this one.

 

[Fluffy Haze]

To me this is the sexiest picture on the whole planet...im litterally smoking this thing right now...ok its under ripe and its wet and it tastes like chlorophyl. but I made this! its cheap, its clean. it takes co2 from the air and sinks it into the earth (when i compost the waste). the only pain, sorrow or discomfort this innocent little plant ever caused was my own at having to harvest it. show me the victim Mr law maker!? this act of defiance i have commited has harmed no one. indeed its pain killing properties are now beyond repute, i could sell this to a construction labourer to help ease his back troubles, pay some tax and go from unemployed to cottage industry herbalist...everyone wins.

Hear hear my darling. Seconded, thirded and whatever comes after that.

I absolutely hate buying my weed. Hate it. I feel like a criminal and I can hardly see for a minute how I can possibly be considered that. Despite being crazy and a wee bit stressy and grumpy at times, I have a big heart and just want to look after everyone. I need help to do that because of my various types of pain both physical and psychological. How can something I tend to, look after, talk to every night before bed and morning when they get up be anything other than good?

And I get to make a mess as well, how fluffily awesome that is

They are beautiful plants. I still think they are gorgeously odd and look like they have been given to us by the extra terrestrial alibums who visit every now and then but they are a plant. Grows with or without us, usually in spite of us...

Definitely with you on this one my darling.

 

[Fluffy Haze]

definatly! autos are underestimated.
without a shed load of expensive equipment its just not possible(indoor) to drop a seed in a pot and come back 60-90 days later to collect your bud...with autos all you need is decent soil, a dripping tap and a light on.

also autos are still in their infant stages. it needs decent breeders to sift through the various phenos untill we actually get some strains that rival regular plants. i believe that a KC45 x Bigbud(2) has that potential.

we have all heard by now that ruderalis is the cause of auto, but most people dont know that the bulk of autos are actually a lowryder cross and not true breeding with a rudi.

obviously untill i have a few generations out of the way i cant be sure, but if i make that cross, back cross it once to the kc45, that should make it roughly equal parts rudi,brazilian sativa and bigbud. if all goes to plan (and when does it ever, lol) we will have a plant half the height of a typical sativa but twice as wide, with a soaring high and massive buds.

autos feel natural for me where regular plants need my divine intervention to successfully make buds and not hermie and all that and they are so sensitive when in flower.

autos may not be the best yielders (yet), but they are more robust, easier to grow and often take less time. whats not to like =D

my 4th journal, while it may take a couple of years, will publicly iron out any myths and truths it can.

lets think of it this way. an auto now is like an auto car. just think how many people would drive an auto if gear changes were instant and full torque was preserved. well i dont know how to fix the gearbox of a car, but i see what can be done for our plants =D

Hmmm... interesting I come back and you are having this debate my darling, as I am currently having this one in my head as well!

I do disagree on the driving the auto cars though... I absolutely love driving a manual, nothing like being in control of the performance as much as possible. Damned arm, think my days of manual cars are gone... grrrrr....

I started my grow with all the best intentions to just do one thing and see it through, but I got so excited that I was actually managing to grow something half decent and that I wasn't killing everything in sight that it turned into a bit of a mish mash with the main photo and two autos in a space much too small for 3 x 11L pots. It's not so much the plant as the pot space really.

Anyway, I digress. I am currently considering doing a purely auto grow for the next one as I can do a strict 12/12 from start (best for autos I understand? Yay? Nay?) and that will give them better what they need for an effective grow. I'm not sure I'm confident enough for topping yet, but I am sure I could manage some LST if I started it at the right time and with a plan not just go in without thought.

I can honestly see me growing a combination of photos and autos now, how I go about that is all yet to be found out

 

[Fluffy Haze]

bb2 and ssxs seedlings went into hydroganics. the ssxs isnt going to survive its accidental perlite drought but the bb2 appears to be bounceing back...ah well i have two spare ssxs....love you fluffy =D
and of course my bonsai clone,soil-perlite-dwc-soil-defo-rootsnip delahaze thats been with me in many forms since day 1 of this journal....man if anyone is after a sativa and are afraid of killing them...try delahaze =D

And finally..just because i can. some more bud porn =D

Sigh *sits and dreamily admires*

What an awesome job my darling And you are welcome, absolutely any time


I will keep the tip about the Dela Haze for future reference, might be a good one for the first foray into scary Sativa land!

 

[GigaGrew]

im not yet sure on autos and lights, it needs some serious testing.

im certain that the magic number lies between 10 and 18 hours . 10 being the apparent minimum for a successful grow, and 18 being the most amount of light a plant can utilise (a theory from another site that needs debunk testing)

i do know that if an auto can grow to most of its potential on 10 hours of light a day then thats the way im going...what a saving on electric.

it will be fantastic when i have stabilised the strain so all plant are identical...i can then test what wattage offers best cost to benefit for that strain, the hours to use, to defoliate or not and so on...there is a LOT to be said for sticking to one strain and making it your own.

the only upgrade you need is an air filtered grow cupboard big enough for 2 plants, 1 male and 1 female for full seeding (just always pick the best 2 plants out of the crop.

you can even shape your plant to your growing style.

lets say that a lot of us that use paper towel or water cup germination, would love to just drop a seed in the medium and grow instead....with breeding you can. just fling like a hundred seeds in the mud...some will make it..thats your first gen, couple more generations and you can expect a high ratio of success, then you could do the same thing, but for choosing the exact height of the plant you want. and so on =D

and now im rambling...

 

[GigaGrew]

you can make a sativa grow like an indica. just top, top, top and then top&flip, super short and super bushy, lol

 

[fish cake]

bravo on the harvest and on the girls soon to be!
and I like your little snipits well done my brother

 

[Grand Daddy Purp]

Looks fantastic GiGa. I love it.

 

[spring2012]

definatly! autos are underestimated.
without a shed load of expensive equipment its just not possible(indoor) to drop a seed in a pot and come back 60-90 days later to collect your bud...with autos all you need is decent soil, a dripping tap and a light on.

also autos are still in their infant stages. it needs decent breeders to sift through the various phenos untill we actually get some strains that rival regular plants. i believe that a KC45 x Bigbud(2) has that potential.

we have all heard by now that ruderalis is the cause of auto, but most people dont know that the bulk of autos are actually a lowryder cross and not true breeding with a rudi.

obviously untill i have a few generations out of the way i cant be sure, but if i make that cross, back cross it once to the kc45, that should make it roughly equal parts rudi,brazilian sativa and bigbud. if all goes to plan (and when does it ever, lol) we will have a plant half the height of a typical sativa but twice as wide, with a soaring high and massive buds.

autos feel natural for me where regular plants need my divine intervention to successfully make buds and not hermie and all that and they are so sensitive when in flower.

autos may not be the best yielders (yet), but they are more robust, easier to grow and often take less time. whats not to like =D

my 4th journal, while it may take a couple of years, will publicly iron out any myths and truths it can.

lets think of it this way. an auto now is like an auto car. just think how many people would drive an auto if gear changes were instant and full torque was preserved. well i dont know how to fix the gearbox of a car, but i see what can be done for our plants =D

Well written. Copy and past to the secret file for sure.

 

[Smokemupm8]

fantastic news. and ready before the bank date...im jealous, lol.

im hoping mine will speed up and finish now. i have gone from 180w t8's to 600w sodium for my flowering light so im expecting gains soon, lol.

i still need to find my magnifying glass so i can examine the trichs, but most of my pistils are still white with more growing every day. as well as the light intensity being low previously i think all the defoliation is slowing it down thats the one thing you can be sure of with defol, a pushed back deadline.

the jury is still out for me on defoliation. it is certainly beneficial, but i believe that the benefit is circumstantial.
i cant be sure of the numbers untill i grow normal and defol side by side.

it sucks having a weak education (yes i still study to catch up). my education doesnt have a clue, but my wisdom tells me that there is a formula to be had. some wierdness like.

yield efficiency=yeild/(timexeffort). i think the best candidate for defoliation would be someone that has a limited amount of plants for legal or whatever reasons.

with decent light and an unlimited amount of plants i think the most efficient method of growing (how much bud for how much work) would still come from just throwing loads of beans in the ground and letting them do their own thing.

defoliation comes into the catagory of improving yeild per plant but simply has too much overhead in time and effort for any serious number of plants.

What you have said sort of applies to me.. As grow to maximise my yield from a single plant. And i have noticed there are some gains to be made if done right.
IDK exactly how much longer removing a few leaves would make the veg/flower period?? As plants naturally over their cycle, are prepared for leaf loss, and regrowth.. BUT - Going beyond a certain point IMO is not good, as the plants do need their leaves!!
My whole cycle for Cindy was just over 3months, with a 58 day or so flower period.. I aim this time to reduce time a few weeks and still have a mature plant that yields over 8oz dry..
See how i go... AND... NICE LOOKIN NUG BTW!!! May have bit more time, but i think theyll be really dense and frosty soon
Take it easy mate, and will chat soon.. Smokemup..

 

[GigaGrew]

just a quick update.

looks like ill be harvesting on saturday morning. the tester nug i took was potent enough for me and i watered them the other day, just water and seaweed, no main nutes (i figure the seaweed minerals might add a little weight to the buds, lol), so they have like 10 days more maturity than my test nug.

then im going to semi quick dry (monday afternoon) to get an aproximate dry weight.

in an ideal world im hoping for 50g+. 50g cleares the balance sheet, all supplies, lights electric e.t.c for all 3 previous grows is caught up and incudes the new hps ready for grow 4. anything above this number i get to smoke to my hearts conent.

so over the weekend ill be making my 20 of my 2l hydroganic 2l air pots, lol thats not going to be fun =/ then i will be sowing my KC45s probably monday morning. my 600 watt can take a break for a few weeks. time to crack out the 6500k cfls =D

i still need to get a carbon scrubber and duct system. my plan is passive intake of air from the cold attic into my grow room and a filtered duct piping the hot but clean air down to the ground floor, this should save a fortune in energy bills over the winter, both by decreasing the amount of central heating we use, but also because its causing positive pressure in the home thus resisting drafts.

 

[fish cake]

yay on the harvest GiG, hope you get 50+
cant wait to see some dry bud porn HEHEa

 

[spring2012]

Hope you go over 50! Your venting idea sounds solid.

 

[Vick074]

Agreed,
Smart way to effectively scrub the room while heating the house!

 

[GigaGrew]

thanks for the reps =)

yeah we have a fireplace in the lounge thats not used, ive already knocked a small hole in the chimeny at attic level, i can feed the duct pipe down the fire place. totaly invisible and the computers in the lounge are 24/7 so that covers any distant fan noise coming thru the duct.

only from my grow room up into the attic is visible, and that room is locked and access denied to all eyes.

 

[GigaGrew]

update.
fastbud auto's have gone dark tonight. from now until monday they should see almost no light. saturday morning they get chopped and will air dry till monday night or they feel too dry. then ill just put them in a tub to equalise with my RH sensor.

got 6 misc plants left that wont really apear on any journal for now as i dont know what im doing with them...but they all running on a single 20w 6500k small pots rock for floorplan efficiency.

monday or teusday we will know the final weight.
i would be happy for 10g a plant but one of my most trusted reckons they look about an ounce a plant! =D

flushed about 3 days ago with ph water and seaweed.

 

[fish cake]

Awsome bro! hope you get that OZ per

 

[GigaGrew]

so do i!

ive decided that i may only get a few females from this 20 seeds im about to do so im going to order 20 more. ill start 20 then will do 3 per week afterwards just to make sure i get a decent amount of females to fininace the next stage.

i did find kc45 feminised out there, but they are litterally 4x the cost, ill take my 50/50 chances thank you, lol.