I like Bustopher Jones too, funny poem by T.S.
Gator Uncaged
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Two Kinds of Intelligence
There are two kinds of intelligence: one acquired,
as a child in school memorizes facts and concepts
from books and from what the teacher says,
collecting information from the traditional sciences
as well as from the new sciences.
With such intelligence you rise in the world.
You get ranked ahead or behind others
in regard to your competence in retaining
information. You stroll with this intelligence
in and out of fields of knowledge, getting always more
marks on your preserving tablets.
There is another kind of tablet, one
already completed and preserved inside you.
A spring overflowing its springbox. A freshness
in the center of the chest. This other intelligence
does not turn yellow or stagnate. It's fluid,
and it doesn't move from outside to inside
through conduits of plumbing-learning.
This second knowing is a fountainhead
from within you, moving out.
From: Essential Rumi
By Coleman Barks
When I read this, I thought of the Gator, and many others here.
- JZ
There are two kinds of intelligence: one acquired,
as a child in school memorizes facts and concepts
from books and from what the teacher says,
collecting information from the traditional sciences
as well as from the new sciences.
With such intelligence you rise in the world.
You get ranked ahead or behind others
in regard to your competence in retaining
information. You stroll with this intelligence
in and out of fields of knowledge, getting always more
marks on your preserving tablets.
There is another kind of tablet, one
already completed and preserved inside you.
A spring overflowing its springbox. A freshness
in the center of the chest. This other intelligence
does not turn yellow or stagnate. It's fluid,
and it doesn't move from outside to inside
through conduits of plumbing-learning.
This second knowing is a fountainhead
from within you, moving out.
From: Essential Rumi
By Coleman Barks
When I read this, I thought of the Gator, and many others here.
- JZThere once was a PotChimp with pot,
Who steadily smoked quite a lot,
He rolled and he toked,
and he smoked 'til he choked,
Until all that pot he had not*
*Propa Gator's poetry teacher is sitting in his/her study having a perfectly chilled bottle of Opus One and admiring the well-deserved Nobel Prize on the mantle. Everybody else's is running from a bunch of angry, pitchfork and torch wielding villagers about right now and I just threw mine to the maddening crowd. Just remember, you don't have to be faster than the villagers you just have to be faster than Frankenstein's monster!
JK
Who steadily smoked quite a lot,
He rolled and he toked,
and he smoked 'til he choked,
Until all that pot he had not*
*Propa Gator's poetry teacher is sitting in his/her study having a perfectly chilled bottle of Opus One and admiring the well-deserved Nobel Prize on the mantle. Everybody else's is running from a bunch of angry, pitchfork and torch wielding villagers about right now and I just threw mine to the maddening crowd. Just remember, you don't have to be faster than the villagers you just have to be faster than Frankenstein's monster!
JK
OG13
New Member
Hey Gator,
extra real estate you have
get some clones in there
sooner than later
for those lumens to save.
I suck at this.....the engineer's mind
extra real estate you have
get some clones in there
sooner than later
for those lumens to save.
I suck at this.....the engineer's mind
I need to stand here and sell everybody's poetry teachers running shoes and plane tickets..... 
On the topic, I really need to consider larger grow areas like you use, Propa Gator. All around on these journals yours and other people's plants look generally a lot better than mine, and that is probably one of the reasons for it. Having enough experience to know what strains grow how big and how many will fit in a given area must help a lot.
On the topic, I really need to consider larger grow areas like you use, Propa Gator. All around on these journals yours and other people's plants look generally a lot better than mine, and that is probably one of the reasons for it. Having enough experience to know what strains grow how big and how many will fit in a given area must help a lot.
I need to stand here and sell everybody's poetry teachers running shoes and plane tickets.....
On the topic, I really need to consider larger grow areas like you use, Propa Gator. All around on these journals yours and other people's plants look generally a lot better than mine, and that is probably one of the reasons for it. Having enough experience to know what strains grow how big and how many will fit in a given area must help a lot.
One of the things I noticed right away when I moved into a larger grow room was how much easier it is to keep a stable environment and good airflow around the plants... Made a huge difference in my grows.
I think I have just the perfect space for my needs - portability, ease of use and LED's keep the space at a nice 73°F, with just the two fans for circulation and an 8" vent fan drawing air out. OF course, I'm just growing 6 plants at a time, and with more floor space/plant, I feel I'll be able to veg a bit longer, maybe (especially if I scrog over my hydro setup) up the yield in that space.
I really need the portability though, since I'm not a homeowner, and like to have the ability to scoot at a moments notice
- JZ
I really need the portability though, since I'm not a homeowner, and like to have the ability to scoot at a moments notice
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Propa Gator
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" I really need to consider larger grow areas "
Of the various resourses required to grow, real estate may be most dear. Energy is second if not first.
Capital for equipment and consumables may loom large, but should not be insurmountable.
Good buds have good value
Each grower will have to assemble a matched set, whatever the costs of each component.
Big rooms need big lights need big amps: deal with it
For any area, productive cannabis can be scaled to fit.
Copying successful grows by reproducing conditions is the way to go.
Of the various resourses required to grow, real estate may be most dear. Energy is second if not first.
Capital for equipment and consumables may loom large, but should not be insurmountable.
Good buds have good value
Each grower will have to assemble a matched set, whatever the costs of each component.
Big rooms need big lights need big amps: deal with it
For any area, productive cannabis can be scaled to fit.
Copying successful grows by reproducing conditions is the way to go.
fncg
New Member
I so want to write a poem up in here
But alas, I'm not high, just had too much beer.
But alas, I'm not high, just had too much beer.
Ladies are looking good Propa - I'm gonna like this Coco stuff I can tell. I have a Super Lemon Haze seedling nestled nicely in her Coco bed readying herself for motherhood. With my RO water, I'm finding Cal/Mag at healthy doses a necessity in Coco - you have good tap, right?
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Propa Gator
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As deep as I can figure numbers, city water plus BPN 2-part gives my bloomers what they want.
I assume coco coir neither takes nor adds any minerals. It's simple, and here's some results:
That's the monster in the middle @ 16 days since the flip. Buds are top to bottom and I love any popcorn, should any of those bottom buds stop growing. They are a nice fit in my one-hit pipe
Buds & bud leaf have trichs, good size and stink. I haven't had such early result in a while.
I won't give all credit to BPN, but it's obviously good shit.
33 days till cut-down.
I assume coco coir neither takes nor adds any minerals. It's simple, and here's some results:
That's the monster in the middle @ 16 days since the flip. Buds are top to bottom and I love any popcorn, should any of those bottom buds stop growing. They are a nice fit in my one-hit pipe
Buds & bud leaf have trichs, good size and stink. I haven't had such early result in a while.
I won't give all credit to BPN, but it's obviously good shit.
33 days till cut-down.
Whether you read this forum now
or whether you read this forum later
at some point you'll be mesmerized
by the words of the Propa Gator
or whether you read this forum later
at some point you'll be mesmerized
by the words of the Propa Gator
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Propa Gator
New Member
18 days
The vert side. I think those 11 sq ft could be better as a flat SOG under 600, than the floorspace-hungry vert. This will run it's course, but a 2nd 600 is on the list. Seeds are coming, and Lucy will battle Snow White for prominence. That will be my favorite cat fight
The camera is even with the 400. Yep, the shorties should be up on milk crates.
Under the 600, underperformers are culled. The one pretty midget survives.
This side is underloaded, but I do expect buds of beauty
The vert side. I think those 11 sq ft could be better as a flat SOG under 600, than the floorspace-hungry vert. This will run it's course, but a 2nd 600 is on the list. Seeds are coming, and Lucy will battle Snow White for prominence. That will be my favorite cat fight
The camera is even with the 400. Yep, the shorties should be up on milk crates.
Under the 600, underperformers are culled. The one pretty midget survives.
This side is underloaded, but I do expect buds of beauty
420Farmer
New Member
This gator was starving
So he started his farming
He grew plants of beauty
But still he was moody
For he craved delicious meat
Where could he find such a treat?
So he stalked through the woods
And discovered potchimp tastes gooood
So he started his farming
He grew plants of beauty
But still he was moody
For he craved delicious meat
Where could he find such a treat?
So he stalked through the woods
And discovered potchimp tastes gooood
BigIrishDoode
Fallen Cannabis Warrior
im finding similar things using bpn, i have grown this strain out longer than i care to think about, and i see thinks i have not seen before, my final result on 3 plants have yielded, more and smell better than i have seen till now, despite trying my damnedest to kill them,only thing different from last time and this is bpn, in my case i do give all credit to the nutrients, the new frosty looks tasty, how do you feel about the smell of your ladies vs last run?,i to like popcorn perfect lil' bowl sized nugs when you may not care to disassemble larger flower grenades
looking good mr gator, i may try vert due to your influence and what i see in this grow of yours
looking good mr gator, i may try vert due to your influence and what i see in this grow of yours
Gator, what are the factors behind your decision as to how high to hang the vert?
I thought it would be deeper in the jungle or closer to the floor to encourage mid and undergrowth flowering.
Have you experimented with this variable yet?
Also, how do you hold so many nugs in those jowels (profile pic)
I thought it would be deeper in the jungle or closer to the floor to encourage mid and undergrowth flowering.
Have you experimented with this variable yet?
Also, how do you hold so many nugs in those jowels (profile pic)
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Propa Gator
New Member
I'm loving these thick thistle-head early buds, bid. My addled memory serves me huge chrystal chunks from Cocos, with full line of expensive H&G additives. Present crop are sparkling nicely quite early. I've been feeding per gal: 10 ml A, 15 B, 3.5 BB, @about 17 cents/gal. Cocos base was 50 cents. Shooting powder was another 50 cents each gallon. GH was mediocre, quoth the Raven: "Nevermore".
I have more light than ever before, but a 250 can shine strong enough... upon fewer, smaller bloomers. Once working, my bottom dollar eballast 600 has seduced me completely. My air is a bit arid @ 29 to 37% RH, but daily floods seem sufficient.
Soniq, the vert bulb is at the end of it's rope. The shorties should be elevated anyway because of the monster in the middle, but I've been hoping to get the shorties to stretch a bit with top light. Not happening, they were flogged-over donor plants, root-bound and thick-trunked. I'll bench them up tonight, but anything from them is bonus.
The beauties under the 600 were abused less, and look marvelous but short.
They all stink madly
My profile picture is actually my cousin, who got caught ripping buds off a redneck's swamp grow. Caught with a mouthful, stuffed the same. He used to brag that he vaped buds in his teeth from the heat of his bad breath. He is now serving poetic justice, forever
One might choose his friends, but that big-mouth weed thief was family. Grrrr
I have more light than ever before, but a 250 can shine strong enough... upon fewer, smaller bloomers. Once working, my bottom dollar eballast 600 has seduced me completely. My air is a bit arid @ 29 to 37% RH, but daily floods seem sufficient.
Soniq, the vert bulb is at the end of it's rope. The shorties should be elevated anyway because of the monster in the middle, but I've been hoping to get the shorties to stretch a bit with top light. Not happening, they were flogged-over donor plants, root-bound and thick-trunked. I'll bench them up tonight, but anything from them is bonus.
The beauties under the 600 were abused less, and look marvelous but short.
They all stink madly
My profile picture is actually my cousin, who got caught ripping buds off a redneck's swamp grow. Caught with a mouthful, stuffed the same. He used to brag that he vaped buds in his teeth from the heat of his bad breath. He is now serving poetic justice, forever
One might choose his friends, but that big-mouth weed thief was family. Grrrr
Hey Gator!
You mentioned that you have some new seeds coming - congrats both great strains. Just a note as I've grown both Snow White and Lucy (several Snow White's now, most not journaled). Snow White likes to stay somewhat squat and short - she's easy to manage in all respects from my experience - typical squat indica dom plant. The one Lucy I grew really liked to stretch - she was still manageable, but the difference between them was considerable as far as their proclivity for reaching upward. You probably knew that, and I'm sure individual results will vary, but that for me was the... long and the short of it.
Couldn't resist the pun at the end.
You mentioned that you have some new seeds coming - congrats both great strains. Just a note as I've grown both Snow White and Lucy (several Snow White's now, most not journaled). Snow White likes to stay somewhat squat and short - she's easy to manage in all respects from my experience - typical squat indica dom plant. The one Lucy I grew really liked to stretch - she was still manageable, but the difference between them was considerable as far as their proclivity for reaching upward. You probably knew that, and I'm sure individual results will vary, but that for me was the... long and the short of it.
Couldn't resist the pun at the end.
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Propa Gator
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Yeah, so it stinks more hardcore now than before, and the 21 day buds are robust. And the tops are covered with trichs though not quite encrusted. But the light is more & better, and the air keeps out of the eightys mostly, and RH seldom dips below 30. Never over 40%. Not best, I knowim finding similar things using bpn, i have grown this strain out longer than i care to think about, and i see thinks i have not seen before, my final result on 3 plants have yielded, more and smell better than i have seen till now, despite trying my damnedest to kill them,only thing different from last time and this is bpn, in my case i do give all credit to the nutrients, the new frosty looks tasty, how do you feel about the smell of your ladies vs last run?,i to like popcorn perfect lil' bowl sized nugs when you may not care to disassemble larger flower grenades
Three in the vert side were abused donors, and shouldn't be where they are. Like old hens, they should've been culled, but something's more than nothing.
Sadly(?), all primo buds have a destination other than my pipe. I only smoke the popcorn.
The vert light on the big fine plants that vegged I don't know how long is doing them good. I think the two-sides lit is nice. Four sides with big lights would be better. I'm loving the 600, and the buds below it.
Best small plants are the broiler rack pack
This lucky donor catches rays under the big light, and will get cut up tomorrow
Looking towards the vert side
Shorties up on milk crates, 400 pulls down on the yoyo to nestle inside
Expecting: GH White Rhino, BF Top Dawg, CH9 Commercial and Vantage. One eachHey Gator!
You mentioned that you have some new seeds coming - congrats both great strains. Just a note as I've grown both Snow White and Lucy (several Snow White's now, most not journaled). Snow White likes to stay somewhat squat and short - she's easy to manage in all respects from my experience - typical squat indica dom plant. The one Lucy I grew really liked to stretch - she was still manageable, but the difference between them was considerable as far as their proclivity for reaching upward. You probably knew that, and I'm sure individual results will vary, but that for me was the... long and the short of it.
Couldn't resist the pun at the end.
BF Pineapple Chunk & Lucy and Nirvana Snow White, 2 each. All Fem
Summer heat will be back before I have trials and donors of all? Who am I kidding, I hope to have two or three set to roll by then. I'll have two boxes again by then to run shifts with the big lights to share the circuit with a 24/7 AC.
The fix for getting a fair share of light to all, even when some greedy girls get tall is to fit the shortys with platform shoes on their cutesy little feet. Or bend the big girls over, but rope ain't my kink
