GardeningGnome's Gorilla Glue, Jack Herer, Critical & Northern Lights: Coco & LED, 2020

GardeningGnome said:
Haha, you are completely right! I'm overprotective when it comes to my girls!
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You got this!
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If I can do it..... you sure AF can.
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(I've taken a few too many shots to the noggin) if ya know what I'm sayin' lol

Possibly a bit wetheaded, but still growin' gas!
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Preston9mm said:
You got this!
:high-five:

If I can do it..... you sure AF can.
:thumb:

(I've taken a few too many shots to the noggin) if ya know what I'm sayin' lol

Possibly a bit wetheaded, but still growin' gas!
:lot-o-toke:
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Hahahahaaa!

I got so many screws loose that it rattles like someone is shaking a toolbox when I move my head too quick.
 
GardeningGnome said:
Thanks!! The iron deficiency problems are more often seen during bloom, right?
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No it'll happen anytime, more often in hydro grows. It's almost always related to pH issues.
The newest growth on the top will always be affected first working it's way down.
 
MrSauga said:
No it'll happen anytime, more often in hydro grows. It's almost always related to pH issues.
The newest growth on the top will always be affected first working it's way down.
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Thanks! Always learning something new here. Everyday.
 
So, decided to top a plant this evening. The few times I've done topping before, I've waited too long. It is one of the smaller GG's that got the haircut.

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Before


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After


Will do LST on the leaves tomorrow morning to complete it's training. It is quite late here and only an halfhour left of light for the girls, so it can wait.
 
GardeningGnome said:
Update time!!
Photos are taken without the overhead Mars Hydro LED turned on, to get more "natural" light photos.

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Overview of Freja. More LST have been applied to the lower leaves and also started on the top section.

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Closeup of the top and the twisted stem. It is tied down with wire.

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Overview of Hera. also with more LST applied.

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Purple top of Hera.

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Comparison of Hera and one of two smaller GG's (Gorilla Glue).
All four seeds were planted at the same time, and two of them (Hera & Freja) are today three times the size compared to the two smaller plants. The same amount of feed was given during the first time for all four plants. The only possible reason for the two smaller plants is the Sciaridae (dark-winged fungus gnats) pest problem that was at that time a major issue. That is now addressed and no visible bugs have been seen on the girls or anywhere around the veg-room today and none at any of the house plants. The two smaller plants have recouped quite well during the last three days, but the weaker of the two is still not looking 100%. I'm thinking of giving them some more time, then putting them into flower. I will be doing similar with Freja, but I want to take a few clones o her before putting her into flower.

Question: The new growth is not really yellow but closer to that lush light yet strong green as new growth should have. They look great but, I'm wondering if there might be an iron deficiency. What do you guys think?
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I dont see a deficiency. Your new growth is the perfect color there isnt anything wrong. Usually peeps that struggle with Iron dif are in flower or in 100%coco
 
GIjose said:
I dont see a deficiency. Your new growth is the perfect color there isnt anything wrong. Usually peeps that struggle with Iron dif are in flower or in 100%coco
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Much appreciated @GIjose ! Things are moving forward here today:

* Freja got a new place to live, moved up to the 10L fabric pot. First time I am using such big pots and also the first time with fabric pots. I moved it into the bloom-room for better light and space but will be on a 18/6 schedule for another couple of days. I did apply topping to this one, it will be a bit skewed since I waited too long but the undergrowth have been looking excellent. Will be interesting to see how it works out with the fabric/cloth/air pots!!!

* The one smaller GG that got a new haircut yesterday also moved, this one into a 4L plastic pot.

* Last one to move today was the biggest Jack Herer (still small) but it started to show roots sticking out of its first pot. Had to get out my Dremel to add some extra holes in the bottom of the new pot to maximize drainage, it only had three smaller holes.

In all pots I've put Leca-bullets (think it is called "hydrograins" in most parts of the world) in the bottom to really give optimal drainage.


Happy Friday!
 
If Im understanding right you are growing autos..no? I know everyone has their own way of doing their grow.... Just asking.. Why would you want to top on an auto? I know those plants are on their own schedule as far as when they go to flower, wouldn't you want the main focus on growth? Im only asking because I have not tried to grow an auto before, and this info will go into my tool box for when Ido try and grow one. As far as cloth pots, Ive only used hard plastic pots. They are much easier for me to take care of my plantsHappy Friday to you ad well!:hippy:
 
GIjose said:
If Im understanding right you are growing autos..no? I know everyone has their own way of doing their grow.... Just asking.. Why would you want to top on an auto? I know those plants are on their own schedule as far as when they go to flower, wouldn't you want the main focus on growth? Im only asking because I have not tried to grow an auto before, and this info will go into my tool box for when Ido try and grow one. As far as cloth pots, Ive only used hard plastic pots. They are much easier for me to take care of my plantsHappy Friday to you ad well!:hippy:
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I believe these are photos and topping autos can be beneficial for the same reasons it is on photos but the timing and health and vigor of the plant are much more important. General rule of thumb is you top an auto at 4th node (I do third) and only if they are healthy and ideally within the first 4 weeks. I try and keep it around 3 weeks. This is what I have learned so far but I'm on my first run of autos. All 4 are in flower now and have been topped or fimmed.

Happy friday @GardeningGnome and all my gardening friends!
 
GIjose said:
If Im understanding right you are growing autos..no?
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Nope! No auto.

Don't really care for auto... I said like this on that topic in @Modest grower 's thread:

GardeningGnome said:
.... auto plants and never really liked to "having to stick to a strict schedule" when it comes to growing. Or anything for that matter... As Douglas Adams once wrote: "I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by."
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:)

I like to have the freedom of letting my plants stay in veg for as long as needed. The auto's, I'm sure works great for some people, but I do like to be able to train my girls and take clones if I want.
 
Modest grower said:
I believe these are photos and topping autos can be beneficial for the same reasons it is on photos but the timing and health and vigor of the plant are much more important. General rule of thumb is you top an auto at 4th node (I do third) and only if they are healthy and ideally within the first 4 weeks. I try and keep it around 3 weeks. This is what I have learned so far but I'm on my first run of autos. All 4 are in flower now and have been topped or fimmed.

Happy friday @GardeningGnome and all my gardening friends!
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Happy friday fella!
 
Heard of an interesting ipm practice thought you might like. Since you're dealing with those gnats and we know they like wet conditions to lay eggs you can try mixing sphagnum moss and diatomaceous earth then use it like a cover crop to prevent gnats getting to the coco. Seems like something that would be very cheap and easy to do.
 
Killerbudz said:
Heard of an interesting ipm practice thought you might like. Since you're dealing with those gnats and we know they like wet conditions to lay eggs you can try mixing sphagnum moss and diatomaceous earth then use it like a cover crop to prevent gnats getting to the coco. Seems like something that would be very cheap and easy to do.
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*I've done this!

Worked like a champ.

I used a mix of perlite & DE to top dress an inch or 2 on each pot. That, coupled with a few sticky traps, wiped them out in a week.
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Killerbudz said:
Heard of an interesting ipm practice thought you might like. Since you're dealing with those gnats and we know they like wet conditions to lay eggs you can try mixing sphagnum moss and diatomaceous earth then use it like a cover crop to prevent gnats getting to the coco. Seems like something that would be very cheap and easy to do.
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Thanks!!!

This might very well be what I'll go with if the problem doesn't go away.

What I did during the first weeks of the seedlings was to add a layer of what the garden-centers call "bio-coal", which is just smaller pieces of charcoal. So I got a good sack of charcoal briquettes, mushed it into smaller pieces, and added a layer on top. Worked like a charm, only smaller issue was that some extra time to water.


Preston9mm said:
*I've done this!

Worked like a champ.

I used a mix of perlite & DE to top dress an inch or 2 on each pot. That, coupled with a few sticky traps, wiped them out in a week.
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Nice to hear!! And I'm guessing the abbrivation DE is for diatomaceous?
 
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