Gardenfaerie Outdoor Organic Summer 2014 Flux and LST in Ground

Spimp said:
They are all pretty plants! :) I think that strawberry blue is gonna be a big girl!
I saw some post that if you turn the flash on under LED's, that the pictures come out almost white. Not sure if it will work for ya, but maybe.
Did you trim a lower fan leaf on the money maker or is that just the angle of the pic?
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I'll give it a try. And no, one of the first sets of leaves did not develop on one side. I showed that in much earlier photos. I'm just lazy. I need to start another journal for the indoor growing.

b.real said:
looking good! you'll be happy to hear that clones mature faster than plants from seed.
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That's what I hear. I do have plenty of room in this closet for these three if they all get big. Not sure if I'm going to train any of them or not. I topped them, not the clone.

PeeJay said:
Nice tight nodes on the indoor girls. Exploit that.
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I've been doing what LA told me to do and pull the nodes apart. I have no idea what that does scientifically, but that's what I did and it seems to have worked. ?
 
Yeah, sure. That's the clone. It has a whole lot of branches, probably because it was in flower when I took it. I have another clone which never put on growth. It has a fabulous root system, but no foliage. Oh well. Les said it wasn't going to amount to much and he was right.

Yes, I can top that one every few weeks. I'll do her tonight. Can't hurt it at all.

I just came in from the evening walk and noticed the soil was really dry in the containers AND in the ground. The plants must be transpiring a lot at night now that it is hot hot hot at night in the 80s. So it looks like it is all happening!!!! yay yay

I didn't water anyone. I'll do that tomorrow when I get back. Must bring Mika to the vet. Her sinus infection is acting up and she needs a shot and a nail trim and whatever else about 350 buys me.
 
No bother about the topping, GF. If you decide. My observations are that folks consider topping to be HIGH stress and other training regimens to be LOW stress. My observations with Alpha and Beta don't bear that out. Probably much of it is strain dependent. Live and learn!
 
Topping a plant is high stress? Wow, that's news to me. I must have topped about 500 million mums in my lifetime by hand with my nail and must say, after we did it the second pinch, the plant magnified by four times and was FULL of flowers. Now, never in any of my years did I ever hear the term high stress used when topping to encourage inner growth and flower bud development.

If it is different with pot, so be it. I think the stress is more likely people over water, over fertilize, over fuss, over light, over do everything!

I put six plants outside, didn't do much of anything other than prep soil, water and fertilize about once every ten days or so with a full spectrum, liquid fertilizer.

Then I look at a grower like LA who used major training and he is getting some unbelievable results. But he also doesn't fuss fuss fuss. Just train. I have a lot to learn still.
 
gardenfaerie said:
I think the stress is more likely people over water, over fertilize, over fuss, over light, over do everything!

I put six plants outside, didn't do much of anything other than prep soil, water and fertilize about once every ten days or so with a full spectrum, liquid fertilizer.
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Hi GF. Your 420 plants & garden are as beautiful as your yard. Your thoughts caught my eye since I'm doing real lean & mean, laissez faire outside grow this year. Minimalist approach. More than pleased with results so far.
 
jaamzhow said:
My cat brought home a baby bunny the other day!
Topping is stressful like ab shredding is; it builds more muscle; topping or pinching, doesn't it cause the plant to respond with new and more growth; like scar tissue? I also don't know the science behind it; just what I see happens.
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When you pinch or top a plant in vegetative growth you are removing the meristem, or the apical dominance. Those are horticultural terms for this. I use them because those are the proper terms, not to be showy. When you remove the apical dominant tip you instruct the plant to develop other apical tips and as a result of this, nodes lower on the plant will start to push where they otherwise may not have if you left the hormones at the growing tips instead of pinching.

If done properly, I cannot see where this is high stress. That would need to be explained to me in terms I understand. It may cause the plant to stop for a second while it rearranges its hormones to push out lower growth, but high stress? Not sure I get why that is said.
 
jaamzhow said:
My cat brought home a baby bunny the other day!
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Sorry about jumping off topic here but I couldn't let this one slip by on my birthday. What do you mean you're cat brought home a baby bunny? What the heck! I'm still sober, explain yourself Jam.


He tried to sneak that by us...
 
:ciao: GardenFaerie

I'm going to catch up on this thread today if we're slow at work.

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gardenfaerie said:
I ignored the bunny/cat thing. It upsets me so I have no idea why it popped in...but it did.

poor bunny
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If you mean he brought it home in a bad way please do not reply Jam.
 
I know there are people who love nature and the cycle of life. I'm well aware how that works.

You are all going to think I am insane, but even during that idiotic, moronic, hysterically funny Sharknado 2 when they were killing the sharks so brutally I had to turn away! I just can't see certain images. I can't explain it, either. I've always been this way since I was a baby, or so my mother tells me now and then.

I'm not mad or anything about this...so I hope that isn't how I came off. Def not.
 
Heres my opinion.

High stress is a made up term because of LST. The term Low Stress Training ran like wildfire when it was introduced, so much so that all other forms of manipulation incorrectly became "High Stress".
Now anything that is not Low Stress has been Labeled High Stress. Incorrectly imo, but I believe that is where and why the term gained popularity.

Morning gardenfaerie. :ciao: Hope your outside lady's are swelling up for ya. :)
 
Spimp said:
Heres my opinion.

High stress is a made up term because of LST. The term Low Stress Training ran like wildfire when it was introduced, so much so that all other forms of manipulation incorrectly became "High Stress".
Now anything that is not Low Stress has been Labeled High Stress. Incorrectly imo, but I believe that is where and why the term gained popularity.

Morning gardenfaerie. :ciao: Hope your outside lady's are swelling up for ya. :)
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Yup.
 
Yes, definitions are vague. A while back I decided to learn what the definitions of the terms mean. I'm still finding many terms which either don't fit, or already exist as a differently defined method in horticulture.

I think it would be a great idea if some of us started to define all the terms used in growing cannabis in this day and time. Many of these terms are misleading or are definitely being misused because the term may already exist in horticulture and can be confusing. A glossary using these terms exactly as they are, right or wrong, should be redefined.

I say we put a project together to write a glossary of terms for
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Well I always prefer to say nuke LEE ARE to nuke U LURE. I don't like using broad terms that may or may not mean the same thing to everyone involved. I'm not a big fan of make it up as you go. I like order, especially where science is concerned.
 
Little update on the outies. I think I'm going to trim all the lower junk out later on today when the mosquitoes are at rest. Wow, there's a lot of them out there. No rain here in the forecast for the next ten days, at least, next month or so is more accurate. The plants outside are on auto pilot:

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