Flittermouse's NL#2 F2 Indoor Grow 2024

Flittermouse said:
Hi,

Nothing interesting to report .

Patiently waiting for NL flowers to develop in the flower tent humming along at a consistant 80°F through a 12/12 light cycle .

I have been reading HDT's "Walden" for 49 + years and still profit from such.

In the begining I would underline . . . until I had the whole book underlined.

Several pages short of the end of 'Conclusion' one reads :

"Let us not play at kittly-benders. There is a solid bottom everywhere. [...] Give me a hammer, and let me feel for the furring. [...] Drive a nail home and clinch it so faithfully that you can wake up in the night and think of your work with satisfaction - a work at which you would not be ashamed to invoke the Muse. So will help you God, and so only. Every nail driven should be as another rivet in the machine of the universe, you carrying on the work."

Tending my plants is rather such as this - I am continually aiming at getting to the bottom .

And by bottom I mean "[...] a hard bottom and rocks in place [...] " ( Penultimate page of "where I lived and what I lived for" ) .
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Hi,

Today I have a mistake to report . Mistakes happen and they are a good opoortunity to learn .

Following is a photo of Blk Flo plants potted for flowering . Notice the plant at upper right as damaged . This happened when transplanting .

Blk Flo for flowering

Blk Flo for flowering

Blk Flo potted for flowering with one plant damaged

During transplanting I snapped the main stalks of two plants as they had become too woody to bend enough to fit in pot without snapping .

That plant makes three casualties .

Following is a detail of broken plant :

Detail of damaged Blk Flo

Detail of damaged Blk Flo

Plant damaged in planting

I had 6 Blk Flo potted for vegetating and used two of them to replace the first two broken plants leaving me with 4 vegetating Blk Flo .

I will use one of the remaining four ( photo following ) to replace this third broken plant which will leave me with three vegetating Blk Flo - which is fine ; 3 is a good number .

Blk Flo potted to vegetate

Blk Flo potted to vegetate

One plant to be repotted to flower

I will use the plant with the most stems to flower , transplanting into the flowering soil and reserving the veg soil for furure use .

I got into this mess because I did not want to transplant the Blk Flo clones into flowering pots too soon in order to prevent the plants from getting too tall , and thus risking leaf burn ( under the flower light ) , while waiting for the NL to finish flowering .

I waited too long and the stems got woody and brittle making successful transplanting into #1 pots a risky endeavor .

Again , this is the reason I try to clone more plants than I actually need .

I would rather be up front about my mistakes rather than hide them because mistakes are learning events .

Next time I will transplant when the plants are ready ( not when I am ) and figure out how to limit their heights ( probably with LST ( Low Stress Training ) when the issue confronts me . After all , a dead plant can not be flowered !
I may end up having to cut them down to a growth node , which , if done early enough , may produce some virtuous branching .

Hope you can learn from my mistakes so you don't have to make them yourself .
 
Flittermouse said:
Hi,

Today I have a mistake to report . Mistakes happen and they are a good opoortunity to learn .

Following is a photo of Blk Flo plants potted for flowering . Notice the plant at upper right as damaged . This happened when transplanting .

Blk Flo for flowering

Blk Flo for flowering

Blk Flo potted for flowering with one plant damaged

During transplanting I snapped the main stalks of two plants as they had become too woody to bend enough to fit in pot without snapping .

That plant makes three casualties .

Following is a detail of broken plant :

Detail of damaged Blk Flo

Detail of damaged Blk Flo

Plant damaged in planting

I had 6 Blk Flo potted for vegetating and used two of them to replace the first two broken plants leaving me with 4 vegetating Blk Flo .

I will use one of the remaining four ( photo following ) to replace this third broken plant which will leave me with three vegetating Blk Flo - which is fine ; 3 is a good number .

Blk Flo potted to vegetate

Blk Flo potted to vegetate

One plant to be repotted to flower

I will use the plant with the most stems to flower , transplanting into the flowering soil and reserving the veg soil for furure use .

I got into this mess because I did not want to transplant the Blk Flo clones into flowering pots too soon in order to prevent the plants from getting too tall , and thus risking leaf burn ( under the flower light ) , while waiting for the NL to finish flowering .

I waited too long and the stems got woody and brittle making successful transplanting into #1 pots a risky endeavor .

Again , this is the reason I try to clone more plants than I actually need .

I would rather be up front about my mistakes rather than hide them because mistakes are learning events .

Next time I will transplant when the plants are ready ( not when I am ) and figure out how to limit their heights ( probably with LST ( Low Stress Training ) when the issue confronts me . After all , a dead plant can not be flowered !
I may end up having to cut them down to a growth node , which , if done early enough , may produce some virtuous branching .

Hope you can learn from my mistakes so you don't have to make them yourself .
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Hi,

Have been able to keep flower tent at 75°F - 80°F consistantly :

Flower tent Temp

Flower tent Temp

An even 75°F +/-

( I remember early grows when I first started and the first time i saw a mildew outbreak in the flower tent - horific . )

Following is the whole group of 6 NL plants at about 2 weeks of flowering under a 12/12 light cycle .

Overall flower tent at 2 weeks

Overall flower tent at 2 weeks

6 NL plants flowering at about two weeks on 12/12 light cycle

Following are two details of fan leaves supporting flowers .
If you look closely you may see evidence that the flowers may start to run down the stem . ( Yes , you will very much want to keep supporting fan leaves . ) I tend to manicure the colas as the fan leaves die back because manicuring after drying seems to compromise the resin sacks . Manicuring as much as I can , in a reasonable manner , before harvest , seems to produce the least waste ; and seems easier and cleaner . Maybe mostly my aesthetics ?

Fan leaves supporting flower

Fan leaves supporting flower

Detail of NL at 2 weeks +

Detail fan leaves supporting flower

Detail fan leaves supporting flower

NL at 2 weeks + of flowering under 12/12 cycle .

I love this stage of flowering , at about 2 weeks , when the pistils are out in force and flowering begins in earnest .
 
Flittermouse said:
Hi,

Have been able to keep flower tent at 75°F - 80°F consistantly :

Flower tent Temp

Flower tent Temp

An even 75°F +/-

( I remember early grows when I first started and the first time i saw a mildew outbreak in the flower tent - horific . )

Following is the whole group of 6 NL plants at about 2 weeks of flowering under a 12/12 light cycle .

Overall flower tent at 2 weeks

Overall flower tent at 2 weeks

6 NL plants flowering at about two weeks on 12/12 light cycle

Following are two details of fan leaves supporting flowers .
If you look closely you may see evidence that the flowers may start to run down the stem . ( Yes , you will very much want to keep supporting fan leaves . ) I tend to manicure the colas as the fan leaves die back because manicuring after drying seems to compromise the resin sacks . Manicuring as much as I can , in a reasonable manner , before harvest , seems to produce the least waste ; and seems easier and cleaner . Maybe mostly my aesthetics ?

Fan leaves supporting flower

Fan leaves supporting flower

Detail of NL at 2 weeks +

Detail fan leaves supporting flower

Detail fan leaves supporting flower

NL at 2 weeks + of flowering under 12/12 cycle .

I love this stage of flowering , at about 2 weeks , when the pistils are out in force and flowering begins in earnest .
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Hi,

Temp still at about 75°F . I guess my rather primitive climate control methods work well enough , (for now, at any rate) , .

Flower Temp

Flower Temp

At 3 Weeks


Following is a view of all six plants at 3 weeks of flowering under a 12/12 light cycle :

Flowering plants

Flowering plants

At 3 weeks

Following is a detail of one plant with flowers :

Flowering plant detail (1)

Flowering plant detail (1)

At 3 weeks

And another :

Flowering plant detail (2)

Flowering plant detail (2)

At 3 weeks

Notice the pattern of flowering along the stem at the leaf nodes.

Following is a detail of a flower at 3 weeks :

Flower detail

Flower detail

At 3 weeks


Maybe next week I will have photos of resin glands begining to form; but, if not, then when they show themselves.
 
Flittermouse said:
Hi,

Temp still at about 75°F . I guess my rather primitive climate control methods work well enough , (for now, at any rate) , .

Flower Temp

Flower Temp

At 3 Weeks


Following is a view of all six plants at 3 weeks of flowering under a 12/12 light cycle :

Flowering plants

Flowering plants

At 3 weeks

Following is a detail of one plant with flowers :

Flowering plant detail (1)

Flowering plant detail (1)

At 3 weeks

And another :

Flowering plant detail (2)

Flowering plant detail (2)

At 3 weeks

Notice the pattern of flowering along the stem at the leaf nodes.

Following is a detail of a flower at 3 weeks :

Flower detail

Flower detail

At 3 weeks


Maybe next week I will have photos of resin glands begining to form; but, if not, then when they show themselves.
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Hi,

As a follow up on post #21 about the trashed transplant of one Blk Flo plant for my next flowering :

I got around to transplanting a Blk Flo vegetating in vegetating soil into flowering soil .

The new transplant went through typical minor transplant shock . I put the new transplant into a breezy 60°F +/- moderately bright sunlight for a few hours before puting it under the LED .

Following is the plant , with the other 5 Blk Flo scheduled next for flowering , after spending the night under the LED. ( I will be sure to transplant when the main stalks are still young and flexable from here on out . ) ( There are ways to manage plants that are tending to become too tall but waiting to transplant them after the stalks have become woody is not one of them . )

Transplanted BlkFlo

Transplanted BlkFlo

Vegetating plant replanted

I may have taken photos of the operation but the plant needed my full attention - free of distraction . But the roots did look good and healthy .

Following is a flower detail 2 days beyond the last post .

Flower detail

Flower detail

At 3+ weeks

As a note , I harvested the Blk Flo I was growing out doors and gave a sniff test to two people , at different times , who are not cannabis consumers . Their responses where almost identical : 'Smells something like mint' . That is probably the Flo infuluence as Flo has been said to have menthol flavors . ( Amusing to note D. J. S. as the Willie Wonka of the cannabis world ) .

I am happy to have my next 6 plants getting ready for the next flowering so I had to post .
 
Flittermouse said:
Hi,

As a follow up on post #21 about the trashed transplant of one Blk Flo plant for my next flowering :

I got around to transplanting a Blk Flo vegetating in vegetating soil into flowering soil .

The new transplant went through typical minor transplant shock . I put the new transplant into a breezy 60°F +/- moderately bright sunlight for a few hours before puting it under the LED .

Following is the plant , with the other 5 Blk Flo scheduled next for flowering , after spending the night under the LED. ( I will be sure to transplant when the main stalks are still young and flexable from here on out . ) ( There are ways to manage plants that are tending to become too tall but waiting to transplant them after the stalks have become woody is not one of them . )

Transplanted BlkFlo

Transplanted BlkFlo

Vegetating plant replanted

I may have taken photos of the operation but the plant needed my full attention - free of distraction . But the roots did look good and healthy .

Following is a flower detail 2 days beyond the last post .

Flower detail

Flower detail

At 3+ weeks

As a note , I harvested the Blk Flo I was growing out doors and gave a sniff test to two people , at different times , who are not cannabis consumers . Their responses where almost identical : 'Smells something like mint' . That is probably the Flo infuluence as Flo has been said to have menthol flavors . ( Amusing to note D. J. S. as the Willie Wonka of the cannabis world ) .

I am happy to have my next 6 plants getting ready for the next flowering so I had to post .
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Hi,

Following are the 6 NL plants flowering at 4 weeks under a 12/12 light cycle.

NL plants flower at 4 weeks

NL plants flower at 4 weeks

6 plants at 4 weeks under 12/12 light cycle

4 weeks may be about half way to completed flowering. A significant portion of the flowering takes place during the final few weeks, as I have heard said; and which is consistant with my observations. An acceleration seems to take place. NL is said to complete flowering in 7 to 9 weeks. The final observations will be of the dark spots in the trichomes. when something like 30% to 40% of trichomes are dark then it is time to harvest??

Following is a detail of the flower pattern.

NL flowers detail

NL flowers detail

At 4 weeks

Following is a detail of one flower.

NL flower detail

NL flower detail

At 4 weeks

Zooming in may show the very begining of trichome development.

I have been using a tea of PPPP ( 5-10-2 ) in watering recently. The more P²O⁵ is probably good for flowering but maybe they would like more K²O. Maybe there is plenty of K in the MMM (M³) SOIL. I should know all of these details - but I don't. I will research and apply what I learn in the next ( Blk Flo ) flowering. The nutrients I'm using now should put me in the ball park, at any rate.
 
Flittermouse said:
Hi,

Following are the 6 NL plants flowering at 4 weeks under a 12/12 light cycle.

NL plants flower at 4 weeks

NL plants flower at 4 weeks

6 plants at 4 weeks under 12/12 light cycle

4 weeks may be about half way to completed flowering. A significant portion of the flowering takes place during the final few weeks, as I have heard said; and which is consistant with my observations. An acceleration seems to take place. NL is said to complete flowering in 7 to 9 weeks. The final observations will be of the dark spots in the trichomes. when something like 30% to 40% of trichomes are dark then it is time to harvest??

Following is a detail of the flower pattern.

NL flowers detail

NL flowers detail

At 4 weeks

Following is a detail of one flower.

NL flower detail

NL flower detail

At 4 weeks

Zooming in may show the very begining of trichome development.

I have been using a tea of PPPP ( 5-10-2 ) in watering recently. The more P²O⁵ is probably good for flowering but maybe they would like more K²O. Maybe there is plenty of K in the MMM (M³) SOIL. I should know all of these details - but I don't. I will research and apply what I learn in the next ( Blk Flo ) flowering. The nutrients I'm using now should put me in the ball park, at any rate.
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Hi,

For comparison, following are the plants after trimming in POST#15 and the plants at present.

NL flowering

NL flowering

Overall at 1.5 weeks under 12/12 cycle

NL plants flower at 4 weeks

NL plants flower at 4 weeks

6 plants at 4 weeks under 12/12 light cycle

Seems acceptable.
 
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