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Day 36. As you can see my lady’s are not looking to hot today some yellowing going on today. The 3rd pic this lady is wilted and in need of water so that will be the plan for today.
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Emilya Green
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Good morning Slim... Your last pictures are a little alarming. I still see signs that you are not watering correctly. The wet/dry cycle method really is the best way to grow these weeds, but it appears that you are still trying to overwater by watering too often. I also suspect that you have bought into the 1/4 or 1/2 strength nutrient crowd, or you are not correctly adjusting your pH. Your plants appear to be hungry, and it is getting worse as they get bigger and have larger needs. Lets review basics... pH you adjust every fluid to.... how often and how many nutes do you give... how do you water, ie, how much and how often.
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Ok so here gos. My ph is 6.4 tested and adjusted every time I feed or water.
As for feeding i am using general Hydroponics Flora series I am currently mixing at mild veg according to there chart ( half of full feeding )
Origanly I was watering every 3 days ( this is when I felt as the pots were light enough ). But after talking with you I let the plants go 5 days with out water they were wilting like the 3rd pic I just posted
On a 3 day watering I was giving them 2 1/4 cups of water. This gave me 10% runoff
On the 5 day watering that I just did my plants took in 2 1/2 cups of water this gave me 10% run off.
As for feeding I feed my plants every other watering So today I’m going to water my blue dream because it’s wilting and has been 5 days It will get just water. The next time it will get ferts
As for feeding i am using general Hydroponics Flora series I am currently mixing at mild veg according to there chart ( half of full feeding )
Origanly I was watering every 3 days ( this is when I felt as the pots were light enough ). But after talking with you I let the plants go 5 days with out water they were wilting like the 3rd pic I just posted
On a 3 day watering I was giving them 2 1/4 cups of water. This gave me 10% runoff
On the 5 day watering that I just did my plants took in 2 1/2 cups of water this gave me 10% run off.
As for feeding I feed my plants every other watering So today I’m going to water my blue dream because it’s wilting and has been 5 days It will get just water. The next time it will get ferts
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Also when I water them I start from the outside of the pot. I slowly add half a cup wait 5 min ( I time it ) then slowly add an other have a cup wait again and so on until I get 10% fun off
Emilya Green
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ok, very good. I stand corrected and you do seem to be watering correctly. Lets center in on the pH question then. Check carefully with your documentation and see if they recommend running their hydro nutes in soil at 6.4 pH. I suspect that those nutes are designed to become mobile at a lower pH than that.
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So I sent an email to the company. Might be a day or 3 before they get back to me.
But on there website there’s a questions and answers thing and the recamend a ph level from 5.5-6.5 although it does not specify for what product or for soil
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So on there feed chart for flora series drain to waste it says to maintain a ph level between 5.5-6.5. So I’m deffenitly at the high end of that
That being said today I just gave my blue dream plain water do you think I should re-ph the water to a lower ph and flush the plant out and see how it gos with a flushed lower ph ?
That being said today I just gave my blue dream plain water do you think I should re-ph the water to a lower ph and flush the plant out and see how it gos with a flushed lower ph ?
Emilya Green
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I would simply water at another pH point and see what happens... let's try 6.1 ... I am thinking that shortly after you apply nutes at 6.5 the natural upward drift of the soil causes your nutes to rapidly be out of range. Coming in lower might allow some of the nutes being ignored to now be used.
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So I’ve just spent a a bit of time flushing my plants. I flushed with 6.0 water after the flush I gave them a bit of food seeing as I just washed it all out. So my next update we will see if it hurt or helped
Emilya Green
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If its what we are thinking, that should do it... you should see some gradual greening start fairly quickly
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So just a little update. My lady’s are looking a whole lot better today. Leaves up reaching for the light. Still a bit of yellowing but way better then yesterday
I did cut off a few of the bigger fan leaves though because they were ugly lol
Thanks for all your help and guidance this far.
I did cut off a few of the bigger fan leaves though because they were ugly lol
Thanks for all your help and guidance this far.
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Day 38 as you can see my lady’s are doing much better then they were a few days ago
As you can also see I’ve employed an lst technique that I seen on here. If I had not been lsting them they found be close to a ft tall
My lady’s have sucked up about half of not more of the water they were given after there flush the other day.
As you can also see I’ve employed an lst technique that I seen on here. If I had not been lsting them they found be close to a ft tall
My lady’s have sucked up about half of not more of the water they were given after there flush the other day.
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Another bondage session... perfect. I snapped one of my candy canes main branch. A little tape. Never effected them. Happy growing. Magic
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Well day 40 is just about over I watered my lady’s with plain water today. As you can see from the pix there not looking so hot again. I wonder if my soil is causing issues and messing with my ph balance seem that every time I let them dry right out they start to look really bad. Last time I flushed them out and they picked right back up.
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Emilya Green
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You seem to like flushing a lot. As far as I know, you still have not tried using the lower pH down in the hydro range, yet you are looking for still other solutions. I recommend that you go with the easy solution first, and see if the problem all along has been your assumptions. I still strongly believe that if you use your nutes as they were designed to be used, things will go much better. Try a pH of 5.8 next time and lets see what happens. You are in uncharted territory using soil with hydro nutes, but at some point there should be a sweet spot where they should be able to work together.
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I set my ph at 5.6. The nutes I’m using are for both soil and hydro. Or at least it says on the bottle
I’ve only flushed once and that was the last feeding
Not sure what you mean by if I were using the nutes as they were designed to be used. As far as how strong they are on the bottle there’s a chart for flower weak veg and strong veg
I’ve only flushed once and that was the last feeding
Not sure what you mean by if I were using the nutes as they were designed to be used. As far as how strong they are on the bottle there’s a chart for flower weak veg and strong veg
Emilya Green
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sorry... I only meant that since they are primarily hydro nutes, they are designed to break free of their salt bonds and become mobile in the hydro pH range. I am thinking they work best when you ignore that you are in soil, and use the nutes as if it were a hydro system. Let's see what 5.6 does. Of course they say on the bottle it is for soil and hydro... but that doesn't mean that all the normal rules apply.
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One thing I did not think of till now and I don’t know how much it matters but my tap water is hard water it ranges from 170-220 ppm depending on the day. I’m in town water so you would thing it would not be hard.
Now I do know that general hydroponics sells a Nute system made for hard water and I wonder if there’s a reason for that or is it a sales gimmick??? You would think that there’s a reason for it and that could be what my issues are stemming from ??
Now I do know that general hydroponics sells a Nute system made for hard water and I wonder if there’s a reason for that or is it a sales gimmick??? You would think that there’s a reason for it and that could be what my issues are stemming from ??