I had a cherry bomb auto flower and herm.. for whatever it's worth.. shit, might have been a berry bomb.. it was one or the other 
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lol yeah I wouldn't put too much trust in them, they are good for what they are, cheap beans have had a few good ones from them though, loved the Atomic and Big Bomb, Ice Bomb was ok too, Gorilla Bomb is really the first let down ive had from them 
have had a few good ones from them though, loved the Atomic and Big Bomb, Ice Bomb was ok too, Gorilla Bomb is really the first let down ive had from them
Shanti was saying some purer strains will herm easier (and it's a stress, so many variables) but the cuttings taken are stronger and won't show the tendancy as easy. It's what's showing, where, how much and when it showed, should decide whether to run it again or not, not just the showing..
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Spose if you get one that behaves and clone it if its got merit than might be ok. Will see what happens. Plenty to choose from and a long way off making the flowering department. Cant be worse than my cherry ogs, really cant find a place they have any vigor. Got one about a week in flower but id say its end of the line for it. Unless it pulls some miricle out of nowhere. Its basically just filler atm.
Sterility is a real thing from fem breeding and selfing..
Somes just worth the risk, if it's the plants that gives you the smoke you want, you'd deal with the trait.. im not sure you'd breeed with it, unless you wanted a project..
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When you say purer are you talking landrace type stuff. If so i guess its possible a lot of them probaly did alot to continue their species, especially in the wild.
Would only be natural.
When you say purer are you talking landrace type stuff. If so i guess its possible a lot of them probaly did alot to continue their species, especially in the wild.
Would only be natural.
Landrace and hybrids..
was just talking about this.. plants evolved to self. How long they been around? Self seeds produce or male flowers on female plants produce? female seeds.. why are there still male plants, shouldn't this evolution have resulted in all female seed lines?
was just talking about this.. plants evolved to self. How long they been around? Self seeds produce or male flowers on female plants produce? female seeds.. why are there still male plants, shouldn't this evolution have resulted in all female seed lines?
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At the end of the day it comes down to the grower fiktering them out of future generations i guess. And you would to have a few runs of a plant to be half sure...
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Selfing is a last go at producing for next season.. I haven't looked,but I wonder if a strain that does it, if it's pollinated somewhere early enough, would that hold back its tendency to self..
Selfing is a last go at producing for next season.. I haven't looked,but I wonder if a strain that does it, if it's pollinated somewhere early enough, would that hold back its tendency to self..
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I guess out in the wild there were always enough males to repopulate a new generation of regular seed, you would probably find it would be the case though in the grows where they were eliminating the males and only keeping the females, I think a lot of these areas though where the landraces are from they use the whole plant even if its fully seeded, I don't think they ever removed males or made any selections 
depends on which area and what their use for cannabis was.. some had people in charge of the seed..
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Im only going of observations from many moons ago, but it always got worse with successive generations. I have seeds here from 17yo that i can guarantee every single one will hermie. They are from 2nd generation. First gen used to just get a few bananas and seeds real late in flower. These ones all hermie randomly from start to finish and would be fully seeded by maturity. Ive tried them and no good.
But thats just this particular strain. Other could be different in behaviour.i
Im only going of observations from many moons ago, but it always got worse with successive generations. I have seeds here from 17yo that i can guarantee every single one will hermie. They are from 2nd generation. First gen used to just get a few bananas and seeds real late in flower. These ones all hermie randomly from start to finish and would be fully seeded by maturity. Ive tried them and no good.
But thats just this particular strain. Other could be different in behaviour.i
Herm gene comes out more? Of course, becomes the dominate trait when your breeding with two herms..
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Which brings me back to people breeding silver treated fems with the same. Id say it should be outcrossed with a real male. I dont know, i just see the whole genepool being messed up eventually. Only case i could really accept is maybe a proper female being selfed and using its seeds but nothing beyond that.
Which brings me back to people breeding silver treated fems with the same. Id say it should be outcrossed with a real male. I dont know, i just see the whole genepool being messed up eventually. Only case i could really accept is maybe a proper female being selfed and using its seeds but nothing beyond that.
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It would be good if seed breeders had to undergo dna testing, it would show up so much info. And its totally doable...
I'm not aware of any breeding with fems,not saying it doesn't happen but are they selling seeds or giving them away? Nevils got blamed for bortlenecking etc,like he said, his one breeder,don't use his gear if you don't like it
but there's shit that these dudes hold,waiting for this sat dom buzz to finish, then drop the next thing.. a a repackaged strain..
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Man, 75% of these guys will be using cuts from fem seeds. Id bet my ballsack on it. And to a degree thats all your cookies, gorillas, chems, deisels. Its not all bad, if they have selected plants that show none of those traits. But your going to get a throwback here and there. Thats the risk you tale. But you could still find some good ones and clone away for a lifetime. Man i dont know i need to roll one up. You could summize all day and never know the truth. Im not big on interfering with nature is all. 
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There are heaps of fems being used for breeding these days, look at most clone only strains a lot of them have been the product of something throwing nanners and hitting another I will use a fem for breeding if its stable, take my White Jack for example, great plant, have had it herm on me in the past but that was environmental conditions and any plant would have done the same thing, the genetics seem solid 
Saying that though I'm not going to use something that has a dictionary of strains attatched to it
a lot of them have been the product of something throwing nanners and hitting another I will use a fem for breeding if its stable, take my White Jack for example, great plant, have had it herm on me in the past but that was environmental conditions and any plant would have done the same thing, the genetics seem solid Saying that though I'm not going to use something that has a dictionary of strains attatched to it - Thread starter
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Theres a shitload of people that do it, but only a few that do it well take In House Genetics for example, they will breed a fem strain and if its a standout they will then go on to use that strain for their next round of crosses, they might find a standout in that cross and use that for their next round and so on
I don't really agree with their feminised crap but in the aspect of breeding its basically what we are doing when creating a new strain, you may not release each step in your breeding schedule like they do but there is a lot of using your own work and previous generations, filial breeding, picking a standout for the next generation etc
take In House Genetics for example, they will breed a fem strain and if its a standout they will then go on to use that strain for their next round of crosses, they might find a standout in that cross and use that for their next round and so on I don't really agree with their feminised crap but in the aspect of breeding its basically what we are doing when creating a new strain, you may not release each step in your breeding schedule like they do but there is a lot of using your own work and previous generations, filial breeding, picking a standout for the next generation etc
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