Exceptionally High FECO Yields

[Maritimer]

Recommended dose is 100-145 ppm. If 100 aint gettin ya there, step on the gas pedal!

Love it Sky,
In motocross we used to call it WFO, Wide @@@@ing OPEN!
In e-mail contact with fella who wrote that product description.
Also, it turns out the trichome numbers (99% increase) are from a tomato study.
The owner claims we are the first to apply the phytohormone in a cannabis study.

 

[Maritimer]

Looks promising, the proof will be in the tasting.

Was just thinking the same thing..

 

[Skybound]

Love it Sky,
In motocross we used to call it WFO, Wide @@@@ing OPEN!
In e-mail contact with fella who wrote that product description.
Also, it turns out the trichome numbers (99% increase) are from a tomato study.
The owner claims we are the first to apply the phytohormone in a cannabis study.

Though the same logic may not apply across their products list, I have and use their triacontanol. For it, their suggested dose is 0.5-1 ppm. The creator of Hydro Buddy wrote THIS article about using Tria and also tested the same range, but upon further studies, I found a thread on 420uk where everybody was ranging up to 25ppm which is 50x stronger than 0.5. So I started at 25ppm and made a few sprays at 25 and noticed great results, but there was one or more results I didn't want so I went way down to 5ppm for a few months and noticed almost no hyper growth so now I'm back to 25ppm. I don't get overly into the study of things, but I do observe what I see to update my knowledge of things. Now I'm only going to foliar one every 10 days, maybe an even 2 weeks to make it easier to hold that on a schedule, but I'm now going to only add tria to every other spray. FYI, the benefits I've witnessed is my clones taken from 25ppm treated plants rooted in 6-8 days where prior may avg is 10-12 days. Also, it seems side branching also increased notably, but the lower ones only grow out enough to piss you off and when she's done stretching and you go to clean up her undercarriage, you find that ever side branch has many side branches. The problem with that is that when you don't want to lop off a branch, you still have about a dozen side branches from it that need to come off for good air flow etc. I didn't notice increased flower size yet, though I'm back up to 25 now and will have a lot more plants to test on. I've read some users only use it in veg which makes some sense, but for now, I will keep adding it to bloom sprays too since I'm doing those anyways as we know that fish gut spray is magical, lol.

Edit - oh, my overall point was that maybe PG suggests to stay in the lower range to be safe? I was at 50x times their range, lowered to 10x their range and have decided to head back north to 50x their range ...

 

[Maritimer]

FYI, the benefits I've witnessed is my clones taken from 25ppm treated plants rooted in 6-8 days where prior may avg is 10-12 days. Also, it seems side branching also increased notably, but the lower ones only grow out enough to piss you off and when she's done stretching and you go to clean up her undercarriage, you find that ever side branch has many side branches.

Very interesting and impressive results. And you were/are able to replicate this accelerated root development?

 

[Skybound]

Very interesting and impressive results. And you were/are able to replicate this accelerated root development?

When I took them clones was at the end of the 25ppm, and when I used 5ppm, the rooting time went back up to avg. I just started with 25ppm again today and I'm planning to take a set of cuts tomorrow or maybe another day. Plus also, it might be a thing where a 2nd application of 25 is needed to stimulate the genes such to root that fast. My goal is accelerated veg growth in dirt and if the soil feeds calcium well, those many side branches I hope will get woody and sturdy. Fast rooting would just be an added bonus.

 

[InTheShed]

I'm sorry but I've gotten a bit lost in which plants are getting which experiments! You have the foliar Meja spray that seems to have increased pistil production (still unclear on increased trichome production) as well as the original drought experiment. Which plants are part of that experiment?

I have pounds of activated charcoal at key air circulation points. Candles, scented stuff of all sorts are deployed. Little help.

Make bacon! That was the tip from TheMadDabber and his wife hates the smell of weed, harvesting or oil-making. It must work.

i also have two bags of Vermiculite. could that help me or hurt me?

Keep in mind that vermiculite retains water while perlite increases drainage. They work at counter purposes when it comes to water, though both are good at providing airspace in the substrate.

 

[Maritimer]

I'm sorry but I've gotten a bit lost in which plants are getting which experiments! You have the foliar Meja spray that seems to have increased pistil production (still unclear on increased trichome production) as well as the original drought experiment. Which plants are part of that experiment?

Hello Shed,
It is not hard to get confused with all the ancillary projects. The embarrassment was evident last week when I fertigated a wonderful Northern who was almost half way thru her drought, because I forgot to withhold food and water.

The meja study has morphed into the center stage of this all because my intention being to find a way to produce the extra cannabinoids a drought application will produce, without actually using a drought.

The Cali Orange cultivar #2 received the first treatment of meja on flower day 40 and is still under observation.

A pair of Cali Orange clones have now joined that study with one getting sprayed and the second clone a control measure. The clone this time was treated on flower day 30 and a second treatment is being planned for flower day 40. This is a slow process and my boredom generates confusion when I start talking and playing with other stuff. This mess of a thread is on me, sorry.

 

[Maritimer]

About this meja stuff,
It is real hard not to say what I think I am seeing. I have personally sprayed meja on two separate plants and both times the results begin to keep me up at night. I wish another gardener who has used meja on cannabis would step forward. Trying to run with the big dogs, I struggle with peeing in the tall grass. You hear folks talk the talk. well come walk with me.
I live about 100 miles south of the windy city. I have more meja than I could ever use. Meet me in the middle of Indiana or somewhere, and I will give you some to try yourself.

 

[Maritimer]

Make bacon! That was the tip from TheMadDabber and his wife hates the smell of weed, harvesting or oil-making. It must work.
Me and the wife both love bacon. Thanks Shed & TMD, this is a keeper!

 

[Maritimer]

oh, my overall point was that maybe PG suggests to stay in the lower range to be safe? I was at 50x times their range, lowered to 10x their range and have decided to head back north to 50x their range ...

your thinking fits me like a glove. jump in your ride > stop on the way and pick up Penny > spend a night in the shire > return to your gardens armed with meja

edit; @Emilya my friend, you are even closer?

 

[Maritimer]

UPS driver is on my Christmas Bud List !

Cal/Mag

• Maritimer
• Nov 26, 2019

i paid $9 for sensi cal the headphones a much better deal at $30
what a cute little...

quit laughing farside, you too sky

 

[Maritimer]

Ahoy 420,
Our friend @Skybound asked for a smoke report on the Ocean Grown Girl Scout Cookies.
The flower smokes smooth and voluminous hits are holdable. computer says thats not a word. so
The flavor is not citric or fruity but more piney and forest ish.
The stone is relaxing and playful. speaking of stone @stoneotter is also invited here to the shire.

Just stepped out for a nasty smoke after catching a good buzz and two separate bad thoughts crossed my enchanted mind. First I am turning 61 in feb and wish to grow a @Graytail with my hair kinda like long. My hair lady says my follicle count is insufficient to support the tail. Would meja increase my count? Next bad thought, my pooch Tennessee is a humane society rescue from TN and I love him but... I really like German Shepard's because they are big. Would squirting the little fella with some meja turn him into a monster boxer mix? LOL Somebody come take this stuff away from me.

 

[Graytail]

Just stepped out for a nasty smoke after catching a good buzz and two separate bad thoughts crossed my enchanted mind. First I am turning 61 in feb and wish to grow a @Graytail with my hair kinda like long. My hair lady says my follicle count is insufficient to support the tail. Would meja increase my count?

LOL, I'd like some of that stuff if it works - lemme know.

I haven't cut my hair in 5 years and it keeps getting shorter. Folicles or no folicles, it just doesn't have enough oomph left in it to last a year before it breaks off at the ends.

But I also have the face of a 50+ year smoker, so ... it's not like it ruins my look. If I ever have to go to another symphony ball, I'll have to get an extension for the tail and some of that wonder shrink-your-face cream stuff.

But hey, if you can grow it, go for it!


[Edit] Stank recently told a story of running out of the house in just his sweatpants, beard and hair flapping in the wind ... reminded me of myself answering the door the same way, hair loose and scraggly like an old coot. I think the wife is less amused, so of course, there's that to consider, too.

 

[Maritimer]

LOL, I'd like some of that stuff if it works - lemme know.

I haven't cut my hair in 5 years and it keeps getting shorter. Folicles or no folicles, it just doesn't have enough oomph left in it to last a year before it breaks off at the ends.

But I also have the face of a 50+ year smoker, so ... it's not like it ruins my look. If I ever have to go to another symphony ball, I'll have to get an extension for the tail and some of that wonder shrink-your-face cream stuff.

But hey, if you can grow it, go for it!

a bit early to say for sure bro, but start planning your trip to the Land of Lincoln.
two plants sprayed so far are indicating that indeed you will need dust off your overnight bags.
lmk and we will arrange contact info privately. you won't believe your eyes when you go downstairs.

 

[Graytail]

I meant for the hair, but I've been following along and there are similarities between the effects you're describing and the effects of DocBud's foliars. Ours work primarily through the root exudates and the soil biota. Do you know the mechanisms that your method uses?

 

[Maritimer]

I meant for the hair, but I've been following along and there are similarities between the effects you're describing and the effects of DocBud's foliars. Ours work primarily through the root exudates and the soil biota. Do you know the mechanisms that your method uses?

The quick answer is no I do not. However, I am very lucky in that a few friends of now retired Professor Pete have adopted me, and they understand exactly what I am doing. The mechanisms we are studying are hormonal manipulations that trigger natural reactions to our benefit. More juice. Our academic friends remain cautiously optimistic they will be more forthright in supporting this study after federal prohibition is lifted following the 2020 election where the clowns will play the reefer card in trying to get elected or re-elected. Go figure

 

[farside05]

UPS driver is on my Christmas Bud List !

Cal/Mag

• Maritimer
• Nov 26, 2019

i paid $9 for sensi cal the headphones a much better deal at $30
what a cute little...

quit laughing farside, you too sky

I'm guessing you're referring to the little bottle of Cal-Mag. I use Greenway Biotech's Cal-Mag powder you mix in a gallon of water. Gallon costs like $22. I'm only about 1/2 way through a year later.

As far as headphones. I don't know why I have so many. They're kinda like my affinity for sunglasses. I have different pairs for different situations. The wired Bose for best listening experience. Some wired Sennheiser buds because I bought them before my Bluetooth models, some sport Bluetooth models that have a wire between the two buds, and some true wireless buds from Soundpeats that are quite amazing that I got on Amazon for around $30. I think our house has bought at least 8 pair of those for us and presents.

Rescue dog from Tennessee huh? I got 2 of those. Of course I live in TN so that's only natural. The 132 pound Rottweiler goes in to remove a mass from her back leg next Wednesday. That's gonna be costly, around $900.

 

[Skybound]

I meant for the hair, but I've been following along and there are similarities between the effects you're describing and the effects of DocBud's foliars. Ours work primarily through the root exudates and the soil biota. Do you know the mechanisms that your method uses?

Soon, I also intend to order the MeJa. Generally speaking, it's supposed to have the same or similar effect that you brixers get from the Cat drench. So perhaps the MeJa can replace the Cat or work with the Cat drench to ensure that the desired effect is achieved? I see from time to time growers get into some problems prior and using the Cat drenches might be too risky, so one or more MeJa applications might could do the deed? There sure appears to be a lot of possibilities.

Methyl jasmonate - Wikipedia

 

[Maritimer]

This is awesome great news. When a skilled gardener like @Skybound, who folks know and trust, uses meja (and his nights become sleepless like mine) the chase will be in full, and the horns will soon sound the hunt. The trophy will please all. This warrants celebration

 

[Maritimer]

Rescue dog from Tennessee huh? I got 2 of those. Of course I live in TN so that's only natural. The 132 pound Rottweiler goes in to remove a mass from her back leg next Wednesday. That's gonna be costly, around $900.

my boxer was tested heart worm positive 6 months after adoption. $1000 of my disability money on that , but worth every penny.