Bilbobudkin420
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Ahhh i see. You start counting later than me thats why theres such a difference lolBig Brook
Baby Brook
Blue 1
Blue 2
Blue 1 Budding
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Ahhh i see. You start counting later than me thats why theres such a difference lolBig Brook
Baby Brook
Blue 1
Blue 2
Blue 1 Budding
Group
Group
Ok sweet. My blue dream is going crazy man. Hope she hits flower hard soon. Shes starting to throw a few pistils here and ther but not enough to call it flowering just yet@Bilbobudkin420 That's why I thought it best to show the representative picture of the day I used for calculation. That pic was of Blue 1 which was 1st. Blue 2 which should be a better yielder was a little behind that. Baby Brook was last since she was planted a week later, although she matured faster.
I need to get me a meter also. I would like to get a quantum meter, it measures umoles, not sure I spelled that right but I’ve been reading a little and found this
You probably know more about it than I do. Is lux and umols different? Idk which would be better, measuring lux or umols. I’m thinking the quantum meters are pretty expensive though.
@flashmp3 I had read the he Grow Weed Easy article along with the Royal Queen blog that I posted the excerpt of. That's what prompted me to buy the lux meter to try to dial in my lighting better. . I'll have to check out the rest when I get hone from work.
So the meter came in this morning. I can see a couple hour session gathering data and an Excel spreadsheet in my future. Trying to find the best combination of height and power isn't going to be simple, but I love data and analysis, so this should be fun. At the moment I dropped the lights down to about 6 inches from the tops and turned it down to about 80% power. A quick initial data gathering was showing if I had 60,000 at the tops with the light running full blast and about 18 inches away from tops, 4 inches down it would drop to 40,000. If I ran the light closer, about 6 inches from tops, and turned the dimmer down till I had 60,000 lux, I had less drop off 4 inches further down. I need to think about how I'm going to conduct my tests and format my data table. I have a couple days to figure that out because I won't have time to devote to it until Monday.
This post inspired me so I decided to buy a brand new battery for my lux meter. I measured the sun light outside as it s very bright today. Around 10am it was around 90000-100000 then at 1pm It was around 120000 lux. I don't know if the max is 100000 or 120000 lux as websites say both. Anyway so I decided that as Sativas and hybrid can thrive outdoor in country with tons of bright days like in California for example, I would try to give my girls a value close to what happens outdoor. I decided to lower my lights so that my lux meter shows around 100000 lux. This allow me to remain a bit lower than outdoor at peak. Some of my girls were still stretching at week 7 and I think they wouldn't if the lights have been lower. I ll see how it goes in the upcoming days!
I'd be cautious at that intensity. Both articles don't suggest going over 85000 and you can see stress over 75000. They recommend more like 65000. Grow Weeds article says autoflowers can take less and I've experienced that. One of my autos was showing stress at less than 65000, so it can be plant specific. The sun can be 100000, but its not that intensity all day long. Some of the DIY guys get so anal that they buy controllers that allow them to vary the light intensity over a day to mimic the sun traveling across the sky. Keep a close eye on them for any discoloration of the top foliage.
From Grow Weed Easy
How much lux do you want to deliver to your plants?
Quick Guide – Lux Levels for Optimal Cannabis Growth
Life StageMaximumGoodMinimumVegetative70,000 lux40,000 lux15,000 luxFlowering85,000 lux60,000 lux35,000 lux
< 15,000 lux – sparse or “stretchy” growth – plant isn’t getting enough light
15,000 – 50,000 lux – good amount of light for healthy vegetative growth
45,000 – 70,000 lux – optimal amount of light for cannabis plants in the flowering (budding) stage
70,000 – 85,000 lux – a lot of light, some strains thrive at this light level, but some plants (especially auto-flowering and indica strains) lose their top leaves early under this light intensity and need lights to be kept further away for healthy growth
> 85,000 lux – at this light intensity, you’ve hit the plant’s “saturation point” which means your plant can’t use all the light (be careful of light bleaching!)
What Happens If I Give My Plants Too Much Light?
The amount of light you get from direct sunlight on a bright, sunny day is 40,000 up to about 100,000 lux. At the high end there’s more light than the plant can use. Imagine a cannabis plant in a pot in the desert – the direct sunlight would be too much.
When growing cannabis, you don’t really get any additional gains by adding more light to get over 85,000 lux. Not only is it the extra light wasted by your plants, too much light can actually give your plants unsightly light burn or cause it to lose its leaves early!
From Royal Queen
HOW MUCH LIGHT DO YOUR CANNABIS PLANTS REQUIRE?
- Clones and seedlings: 5,000–7,000 lux
- Vegetative growth: 15,000–50,000 lux
- Flowering: 45,000–65,000 lux
- Maximum recommended amount of light: 75,000 lux
What about even more light? At some point, increasing the light beyond a threshold plant can manage will actually diminish returns. Said differently, once you reach about 85,000 lux, it’s simply too much. Some strains may already show signs of light stress at only 75,000 lux, with the risk of light bleaching increasing at over 80,000 lux. To keep it safe, it is best to stay at or below 75,000 lux.