Derbybud
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Look up grandpa token. He has a good thread going with lots of interest.
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Yes sir, still uhhh Kickin! and still figuring things out. You know me, I asked about testing cause I want solid facts but right now I would be willing to work with an educated guess based upon experience. I am not in the position to test right now either. But if there are no known answers, I may arrange something from afar.Sorry kick as I'm in a state that doesn't play nice with cannabis growers/ users so it's difficult to get things tested. I'm sure someone else will be around to maybe give some insight. Nice seeing ya around again. Hope things are good for ya.
Hmmm, maybe I should look at a dab under the 60x. There may be some answers there.
Yes sir, still uhhh Kickin! and still figuring things out. You know me, I asked about testing cause I want solid facts but right now I would be willing to work with an educated guess based upon experience. I am not in the position to test right now either. But if there are no known answers, I may arrange something from afar.
I just dealt with a lab in San Francisco that I just mailed my oil to (in capsules) via the good old USPS. Anresco was its name and its website was just the name and .com.Hi there Derbybud!
I need some info on yield/ potency. Is there a rule of thumb for potency without knowing the quality of your bud? Say you have a 20% yield. What % of the yield is cannabinoids? In other words, how much does the carrier sap weigh? And I know some of it is wax, etc. Which thread is tuned in to that? with testing.....
Hi there Derbybud!
I need some info on yield/ potency. Is there a rule of thumb for potency without knowing the quality of your bud? Say you have a 20% yield. What % of the yield is cannabinoids? In other words, how much does the carrier sap weigh? And I know some of it is wax, etc. Which thread is tuned in to that? with testing.....
My background thus far is with EVOO & Coconut oil extractions. New to solventless. So, I have catching up to do on the empirical side of squishing. I simply have some basic facts to get straight. I was asking about estimating potency % based upon yield...In that frame, say for instance the following example: Im sure trim has a low thc content and when you press it you would get a low yield ( I dont have trim, not a grower. so hearsay). That leads me to believe there is a direct correlation between yield & potency- a guess...80-90% canna goodies. if this is not going in the right direction, then we are left with the following senerao > oil from say, trim, would be less potent. maybe 40% instead of 70%. That would imply more empty carrier sap or whatever we call the oil of the plant. OR, is the sap nothing but tricombe juice & therefore close to all being cannabinoids & terps. If that is true, then the yield is approximately the strength. If that is the case, then rosin from trim would be just as potent as bud....just less yield. One of those statements has to be close to true. Clear as mud??? I couldn't find an easier way to say this.
"In my experience yield has little to do with potency, given all other variables are equal or at least similar. However, there are so many variables: genetics, environment, medium, lighting, even down to the grower/caretaker. Older bud can reduce return percentages, but doesn’t necessarily mean the potency of the rosin is less."
Thanks Tokin. With all those things being equal....lets say you use the same plant for making rosin out of the buds and separately rosin out of the trim. In your experience, is the rosin from the trim a lower potency than from the buds? Or, is it just as strong but just less yield? We need to know this, well for a lot of reasons. I'm sure this is a known answer. A lab tech would know or any Co. that makes rosin legitimately. Im sure this is not a secret at this point.
When Canyon and I ran those test a few years back on decarb & evoo extraction there was virtually no solid info out there to guide us. Everybody had an opinion but no testing to back it up. The big guys were just beginning to lock up their patents ( I looked some up to find decarb time/temps, etc). And they weren't giving up anything meaningful . As a business man, I can't blame them. Back then the feedback was "my butter kicks ass!". Maybe. But I kept saying I've never found a conversion table that shows "kicks ass as a percentage". They were missing the point. Maybe it does kick ass. Your extraction could be very strong and you could still be leaving 20% behind. If you grow maybe that's not a big deal for personal use. But people buying retail buds...20% is a big difference in price. And btw, in our tests, we WERE leaving 20% behind with the known methods. I have since cut that in half with technique refinement.
All that being said, I'm here now...with rosin (heat/pressure extraction) being my method of choice. Make rosin & then simply "decarb & "mix" with EVOO. As for waste, come behind it with EtOH on those chips and you have apx 97% of the goodies. With a quality press you probably get 90-95% of the goodies anyway.
Another draw to the rosin side is that you can make a smokeable product at the same time you are making an extraction for edibles. When doing a EVOO extraction, you are headed for edibles only. And if you don't think edibles is king, you aren't doing nearly enough. Usually, I want to see the flying monkeys. lol But we all still love a good clean hit when life does not allow space cadeting.
Nice Grandpa! I’de hit that!
Hey Kick! So to answer your question to the best of my knowledge...Mr Dutchman,
This is your room. Am I getting off topic with this stuff? You guys and Tokin appeared to be the ones to hash it out with. I guess there are others but this is where I landed from search.
Welcome Salt!Subbed in - finally!
Ok Dutchman. I have a few hours in this and I can't find anything to dispute that. That "pretty" extract I was referring to may simply have more microscopic trash in it to bring it down to 40%. So what micron bag is Golidlocks for rosin?