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I’m going to try this but I’m going to wait for a long flowering Sativa grow. Reasoning is so I’ll have a large yield with some extra weeks to play with…
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Rain water brings lots of benefits to the table.As you have done, and as nivek points out, it makes sense, when droughting that we need to be flexible as to how the plant is responding and adjust accordingly. Kaplan's study was in his conditions where temps/humidity/container would be unique to his grow. There are presumably various approaches yet to be evaluated, which makes it exciting.
I have had the pleasure of having real droughted buds. They were inadvertently droughted, but they remain the best smoke I have yet grown. Last year, I decided to take care of the soil by keeping the worms that lived there happy with regular waterings. The plants and resulting buds grew nice and gave a nice effect, but I was left a little curious when I compared to the previous year's grow of which I had purposively semi droughted in the later half of flowering. I had felt those buds may have been more potent than last year's non droughted grow.
But that first plant that grew droughted every hot day of summer in it's too small ceramic pot on a hot stone balcony, it's buds remain my best. It was a gnarly plant that gave less than 2oz, but truely wonderful, everyone who tried it commented so.
For growing outdoors, when it comes to droughting there is the occurence of natural rain to add to the equation. It seems we have to do enough to trigger that response and keep it going for a period to get the effects and then get it safely on to harvest. But yes, the different potential variations allow mouthwatering thoughts of how improved the potency could become.
I hope this makes some sense, it could now be the edible I took a while ago that is talking.
Hi krissi, I read the cloning experiments from dr Kaplan and that led to reading the drought experiments. I had to read it a few times to understand his methodology and timing. I came here and found @Maritimer was working with the information too.You know I love you Charlie!!!
Hey Fish! Thanks for dropping your personal droughting experiences here!! It is greatly appreciated! Have to agree with you on the no need to poo-poo on th idea philosophy!
Where did you first hear of droughting and what convinced you to try a version for yourself?
What has been your experience with different strains as you had noted?
Hey Fish,Hi krissi, I read the cloning experiments from dr Kaplan and that led to reading the drought experiments. I had to read it a few times to understand his methodology and timing. I came here and found @Maritimer was working with the information too.
It’s not new news that hemp that experiences drought will produce a “hot” crop. Dry land farming produces better tasting fruits and also increases the resin of herbs. It’s a no-brainer.
Woo-hoo! You will literally see and feel the difference I guarantee it!I’m going to try this but I’m going to wait for a long flowering Sativa grow. Reasoning is so I’ll have a large yield with some extra weeks to play with…
I have heard from several people chiming in that have done some type of droughting in the past, that the drought time is strain specific. I would just assume that it is based off of the plants overall fitness which I am sure has part to do with it'd origin and genetics...I don't know any studies that go into strain specifics regarding droughting. I've went the full 11 days and I have stopped at 8 days based off of wilting. I've trichome checked during the drought as well and have had to stop because they have matured during that time, so that is also something to look out for...And are equatorial varieties more drought resistant I wonder?
Rain water brings lots of benefits to the table.
Awesome thank you Otter!!!So in my droughts I find the plant and it's pot size will determine the length of drought. Possibly veg time also. Revved up rootage in small pots will get it done sooner than a more casually grown one. By that I mean if I let a 10 gallon pot veg a 3 gallon pot up for 3 weeks vs 1 or 2. Like that. The lack of turgid (wilting to the correct angle) determines that the plant is doing her thing and I water (I'm in LOS so that's my fertigation). Most plants make it back to normal looking yet sad but living condition, some perfect. I've had them look both brand new, and ridden hard and put away wet, and successful at both "looks". Cheers!
Yes, I can attest to this from personal experience. First few days, you won't see much then it flips, when she is thinking oh crap, and turbo boosters go on...have to be weary of when to turn that off so we can make a smooth landing so to speakit's like an exponential curve,, first thirty percent of the curve near nothing happens,, mid third of the curve shite begins to happen,, and the last third the curve is pointing near straight up,, rapid changes
I don't know much about hempy but I know it won't take much to elicit a responseright now , with my hempy, i am thinking some kind of heavy hands on reduced watering for the drought,, somehow
I have heard now from so many people how they have been droughting for upwards of 20 years, following in lines of normal cropping styles. It was only a matter of time before it was done to cannabis....think we have been waiting far too long...knowing that this is a practice that has been done way before any papers or scientific studies were done makes me even more proud to be a part of this movement towards true medicinal grade cannabisi have near about one hundred days to think about it tho,, thats when i will have two near identical plants to play with, ready to drought
They look beautiful, I don't like that they hermied but that was a lot of days of stress on them! Haven't had one shim on me yet using a loose approach and following protocols. I want to note exact days I start seeing things so today is day 2 of drought for my G, we will see what happens next few days as I have yet to actually document any droughting notes in the pastSounds interesting to me. I see that all this is happening near harvest, I had an unintentional drought situation that lasted a couple of weeks at the beginning of flip. Flood and Drain method. It was caused by a mechanical timer and a slow witted grower , Part of my daily checks included turning the timer to "on" and verifying pump flow. The pump was working but didn't kick on when it was in timed mode so all the water they were getting was when I turned the timer on during my daily checks. The plants looked terribly wilted. I finally figured it out and replaced the timer. The plants seemed to recover and all went fine until they started ripening about 20 days early. They had hermied, but looked very nice. I never saw the banana. The smoke was weak but I got a lot of seeds. I grew one outside this year and it seemed normal given I don't have a decent sunny spot to grow.
Hi Az and HNY,The time frame to kick in the response in soil vs hempy have to be very different. My theory is that in soil, there are lots of little pockets of moisture so the roots can search them all out and the draught response is somewhat delayed while this is happening. In a straight perlite hempy this phase happens much quicker.
Only after the medium gets to a certain low moisture content does the true drought response kick in.
But, maybe the slower more prolonged and drawn out drying of soil is a benefit somehow? Maybe like the difference between slow and fast drying your bud?
Hey Az..appreciate your input on hempy..My two cents:
I think it would be helpful for the first post to be a 'how-to' on how to do it. I understand wanting to delve deep into the theory and all, but we're nine pages in and still no guide. There was a short overview a page or two back, but I'm looking more for the detail and pics consolidated into one post.
I know a couple of members here have that buried in their grow threads, but putting it here in what could become the defining draughting thread for this technique would sure be helpful.
Maybe one of the practitioners could write it up with pics and ask the mods to insert it at the beginning.
Thank you for your input as always... I liked the idea also AziThe slow and gentle drought is most beneficial. I run Pro-Mix HP and can always go at least 8 days before the LWA (wilt) is 50% greater than original turgid readings. The cultivar needs a bit of time to prepare (synthesize) the stressed cannabinoids.
Like your idea 
Understood.I didn't start the thread solely with the purpose of telling people how to drought. I began the thread to educate everyone on how a plant receives this particular stressor and what it does to protect and/or better itself in the process.
Ahoy @SkunkstaWooooW what you started @Krissi1982
Just caught up , im firm believer of each to there own.
And NEVER discount information that could benefit you.
That being said still never got my questions answered.
Also think to stop the sceptics like myself.
As already said here or on another thread.
A Start to finish soil/coco/hemp/dwc detailed would ne nice.
As already said i would think EVEN if it works the time scales would be different.
And im still lurking
Happy New Year from the skunksta one and all..............
the young doctor Kaplan has (like many of us) gained a great deal of experience since the original study was published. if he were to write his thesis over (hehe) a lot more information would have been published. he is nowadays getting 30% improvements to cannabinoid profiles compared with his controls. I get stuck around 25% I think. either way we both are better than when he applied for his doctoral certification.the way i read it tells me the technique , for plants in soil at least, is very simple
first one needs to know their plants a bit,, knowing when 11 , or 12 perhaps, days from harvest, one stops watering
that's it,, under optimum conditions,, done
one watering after 11 days, or adjusted for ones own conditions, and a harvest the next day
that is straight from the study
of course, ones conditions, situation, expertise, experience, attention to details, fortune, and karma will need to be factored into everything,,
simple indeed
btw,, the study is not a big read and actually quite easy to understand,, sorta
Increasing Inflorescence Dry Weight and Cannabinoid Content in Medical Cannabis Using Controlled Drought Stress
Controlled application of drought can increase secondary metabolite concentrations in some essential oil-producing crops. To evaluate the effects of drought on cannabis (Cannabis sativa L.) inflorescence dry weight and cannabinoid content, drought stress was applied to container-grown cannabis...journals.ashs.org
btw again,, how to properly organize these threads for ease of use and study has been an ongoing issue for 420mag for years,, still not fixed, or else not used properly,, there is things in place for this but not used much,, so is forgotten