Does this seedling look overwatered?

[Seadaemon]

Hello all ! Does the seedling in my hand look overwatered? It's a Meridian sour. The rest in the pics are purple cush. All are autos, all are 2weeks old except the back left one which is 3weeks old. The soil they are in is HP50. 60% rh , 18 deg c. 4x4 tent. One 6" exhaust fan on low. One 4" intake on high. The grow light is pulling 62watts and is 11" high from the canopy.
My plan is to move these into coco very soon.
I plan to use coco with 25% worm castings, 20% perlite and 4 table spoons of 444 , all per gallon of coco. Anything I'm missing or should be doing ? This is my second grow. I messed up my last grow by lowering my 650w light too much and cooked the plants. ( I'm.pretty upset about that big mess up ) see attached pic on that one.

 

[Bill284]

Hello all ! Does the seedling in my hand look overwatered? It's a Meridian sour. The rest in the pics are purple cush. All are autos, all are 2weeks old except the back left one which is 3weeks old. The soil they are in is HP50. 60% rh , 18 deg c. 4x4 tent. One 6" exhaust fan on low. One 4" intake on high. The grow light is pulling 62watts and is 11" high from the canopy.
My plan is to move these into coco very soon.
I plan to use coco with 25% worm castings, 20% perlite and 4 table spoons of 444 , all per gallon of coco. Anything I'm missing or should be doing ? This is my second grow. I messed up my last grow by lowering my 650w light too much and cooked the plants. ( I'm.pretty upset about that big mess up ) see attached pic on that one.

Use a turkey baster and water the outside edges of your cups.
Also the clear cups need a cover.
Roots don’t like the light shining through.
I run coco/ perlite also.
If you add worm castings it changes the ph requirements.
I find it easier to use straight coco/ perlite and just feed properly.
Your 4-4-4 is good though, won’t effect ph.
Also in coco I add calmag to my feed water first.
Helps with nutrient uptake and saves the girls from being drained by the coco.
Always use calmag in coco.
If you have a look at my Heavens Shore’s thread I explain everything in pictorials.
I’ll answer any questions you have.

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[Seadaemon]

Thanks Bill. I have been using a turkey baster and watering on the outside. I will get cover cups for the clear cups. How much calmag do you use per liter of water and how often ? I will be using rain water which is a exact 6ph.
I really want to use the worm castings in my mix. I have been watching alot of Mr Canucks grows, he seems to always use them in his mix. Will they raise the pH up or down? When you say feed properly what do you use or mean? I did look at your pictorials but didn't see the soil recipe you used. The Mr Canucks grow doesn't seem to use anything else , just worm castings, 444, 284 and either living soil or coco.

 

[Bill284]

Thanks Bill. I have been using a turkey baster and watering on the outside. I will get cover cups for the clear cups. How much calmag do you use per liter of water and how often ? I will be using rain water which is a exact 6ph.
I really want to use the worm castings in my mix. I have been watching alot of Mr Canucks grows, he seems to always use them in his mix. Will they raise the pH up or down? When you say feed properly what do you use or mean? I did look at your pictorials but didn't see the soil recipe you used. The Mr Canucks grow doesn't seem to use anything else , just worm castings, 444, 284 and either living soil or coco.

I use green planet ProCal.
1.25 ml/l every day in my plain feed water before adding nutrients.
But what ever brand you choose will have mixing instructions on it.
Every day though before adding nutrients.
If you add worm castings to coco it becomes a supersoil not a true coco grow.
It’s your grow and your choice
Adding the dry nutrients doesn’t affect ph.
It can help depending on the growth stage and nutrition requirements.
I find it easier to just feed what my girls need when they need it.


Stay safe
Bill284

 

[con]

Use a turkey baster and water the outside edges of your cups.
Also the clear cups need a cover.
Roots don’t like the light shining through.
I run coco/ perlite also.
If you add worm castings it changes the ph requirements.
I find it easier to use straight coco/ perlite and just feed properly.
Your 4-4-4 is good though, won’t effect ph.
Also in coco I add calmag to my feed water first.
Helps with nutrient uptake and saves the girls from being drained by the coco.
Always use calmag in coco.
If you have a look at my Heavens Shore’s thread I explain everything in pictorials.
I’ll answer any questions you have.

Heavens Shores - Bill's 2022 Grow: Come Meet Howie! Show Us Your Grow Too - Bring A Pic

HEAVENS SHORES FEATURING SEEDS FROM Stay safe :cheesygrinsmiley: Bill

www.420magazine.com

Stay safe
Bill284

What Bill Said & i would try to raise your tent temp to 24c min 28c max

 

[Roy Growin]

Hello all ! Does the seedling in my hand look overwatered?

Yes it does, but other pics look very dry
In starter pots I water from the bottom and let the coco wick it up
Keeps the moisture of the coco a perfect constant and forces the roots to spread and form a good root ball before transplanting
Never let coco go dry imo

 

[Seadaemon]

Should I be misting the top of the soil ? I have been turkey basting water around the edges only. I just watered yesterday.

 

[Roy Growin]

Should I be misting the top of the soil ? I have been turkey basting water around the edges only. I just watered yesterday.

Only if you need to raise the RH? Risk of damping off? No
Roots are looking for water at the other end of the pot mate

 

[anitl]

I use green planet ProCal.
1.25 ml/l every day in my plain feed water before adding nutrients.
But what ever brand you choose will have mixing instructions on it.
Every day though before adding nutrients.
If you add worm castings to coco it becomes a supersoil not a true coco grow.
It’s your grow and your choice
Adding the dry nutrients doesn’t affect ph.
It can help depending on the growth stage and nutrition requirements.
I find it easier to just feed what my girls need when they need it.


Stay safe
Bill284

Interesting to know that adding dry nutrients doesn’t affect pH—that’s useful info. The ‘feed as needed’ approach also seems convenient to avoid overloading the plants. By the way, have you been using ProCal for a while? Do you notice a difference in growth and development with it?

 

[Bill284]

Interesting to know that adding dry nutrients doesn’t affect pH—that’s useful info. The ‘feed as needed’ approach also seems convenient to avoid overloading the plants. By the way, have you been using ProCal for a while? Do you notice a difference in growth and development with it?

Not that brand in specifically.
Calmag yes though



Stay safe
Bill284

 

[SmokingWings]

How much calmag do you use per liter of water and how often ?

The instructions regarding amounts and how often should be on the back of the bottle, bag or box of any fertilizer or single nutrient.

The only times I can remember not seeing this basic info was on 50 lb bags or bulk supplies of fertilizers intended for commercial customers.

 

[SmokingWings]

Interesting to know that adding dry nutrients doesn’t affect pH—that’s useful info.

I would think that once the dry nutrient or fertilizer gets wet and/or starts to dissolve it will then have an effect on the pH of the water or growing mix.

 

[Seadaemon]

Well, I gave them some rainwater and nutes. I also raised the light to 20". They are doing much better now. For me, it's so hard to tell if they are under or overwatered. I also put the clear sold cups into the solid red ones because of the root to light thing.

 

[SmokingWings]

For me, it's so hard to tell if they are under or overwatered.

By the way the soil mix looks. With some experience many could see that the color of the mix was lighter as they dried out. Lift out of the solid color cups and look through the sides of the clear cup.

But before you can do that you will have to get used to the weight of the cup when it is properly moist and then the different way it seems to weigh as the soil dries out. Once you get used to it then it will be really easy to tell the difference between being damp and being dry in those small cups. With time it is possible to get an idea if a plant has become a bit over-watered by the way the leaves look.

The bigger the pot the harder it seems to be so practice with those small cups.

There is a long thread that goes into great detail on the best way to grow a plant in a pot and be able to judge when the soil is dry. Maybe someone has the link handy.

 

[Seadaemon]

Thanks for the reply Smoking wings. I plan on uppotting them today into 3 gal fabric bags. The soil will be living soil, 10% worm castings and 3tbsp per gallon 444 & some perlite. I plan on watering the solo cups b4 I transplant. How much should I water the soil around the plants once they are transplanted ? I've heard you shouldn't be transplanting autos, too late for that now though. I plan on putting a 300w light in the tent. How high should I hang it ? Any advise would be much appreciated. The pic is from this morning.

 

[SmokingWings]

How much should I water the soil around the plants once they are transplanted ?

Really hard to say without being there to see how moist the new soil is. And, once starting to water just how fast it soaks into the soil mix and how long before a bit of run through showing up in the saucer.

Over-watering one time is not that much of a problem. Wait it out, let the soil mix dry out and try not to do it again. It is a matter of trial and error at first. There still will be times when a bit to much or not enough water was added but those should be getting fewer and further apart.

 

[Sativa1970]

It's a matter of balance not volume. You were not over watering the plant, you were over watering for the current temp. You didn't burn the plant with the light. You burnt the plant with not enough water, temp or wind to go with it. All of the 9 cardinal parameters have to move up or down together. If one gets too high you can lower it or raise the others to achieve balance again.

If you think you are giving too much food, water, light or so forth. First check that you are just not low on one of the other parameters. It can lead to a spiral effect of reducing everything rather than just increasing one thing for a healthier plant.

 

[Seadaemon]

I just uppotted the plants. I watered them in the solo cups till they were damp at the bottom. I put micorhizae on the roots. I watered around them.in the fabric pots. About 3/4 liters per plant. Is that enough and then slowly water more. Really hoping the soil is not to hot for them.

 

[Sativa1970]

Am I reading this wrong or are still running cold? 19c is your minimum temp at night. 24 or 25c is closer to where you want your daytime temps.