Doc Bud's High Brix Q&A With Pictures

Doc Bud said:
I looked into tissue culture a few years ago and could not find anyone who was successful at it, plus the equipment needed to outfit a proper lab was a bit pricey at the time. You'll need a flow bench with hepa filtration and lots of sterile lab gear.

Certainly not impossible, but not something the "average" grower has at his/her disposal.
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Just up my alley Love a challenge. Doing a fast search seems there are a few
starter kits I can use to get my interest seeded

OH I did get a batch of Mushrooms going back in the mid 70's using a home made
gloved and sealed windowed sterile box. So maybe some hope ;)
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Gazoo said:
Just up my alley Love a challenge. Doing a fast search seems there are a few
starter kits I can use to get my interest seeded

OH I did get a batch of Mushrooms going back in the mid 70's using a home made
gloved and sealed windowed sterile box. So maybe some hope ;)
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I looked at those kits and others just like them. But when speaking to actual users I was unable to find anyone who successfully made a tissue culture past the callous. I even went to the local university's Horticulture Department and got some ideas.....expensive ideas. LOL. Please let us know about your progress!
 
Doc Bud said:
I looked at those kits and others just like them. But when speaking to actual users I was unable to find anyone who successfully made a tissue culture past the callous. I even went to the local university's Horticulture Department and got some ideas.....expensive ideas. LOL. Please let us know about your progress!
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Thats the type of incentive I thrive on :high-five:

EDIT oh dont expect I will do any better but LOVE the chance to try
 
Duggan said:
Puffer, wat do u find confusing. Doc has just explained things perfectly bud.... :cheesygrinsmiley:
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I’m confused, because I know that a best way to use these products, as currently formulated, exists. And almost every member that I communicate with, has a different feeding schedule..I don’t want to add another way of using the kit, I’d like a feeding schedule, that uses what current known information is available to create a feeding schedule, that’s best for all. One guy uses transplant throughout veg., while others alternate. i Just think the schedule should reflect the best known knowledge at time of printing. Not some formula thats good enough for everyone, but one that is the best known formula for everyone. Based on lab results &member results. Don’t get me wrong, I’ll eventually figure it out, but an updated articulated feeding schedule, reflecting best known current ratios would be helpful. If the kit is a work in progress, then the feed schedule should be updated periodically to reflect those changes. I shouldn’t have to go ask other members what to feed my plants. Best current info that I have came from you Duggan, 15 ml per gal, for all drenches. But I’ve tried 10ml per gl., and that worked great also. So I guess time will find us the correct portions.
Morglie said:
Amendment is 1.5 pounds per batch of soil.
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One 1st run amendment is 20 oz.
 
Slowpuffer said:
Just think the schedule should reflect the best known knowledge at time of printing
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Could be a mistake to drop in here... but i think the chart does exactly that. Doc’s optimum way of using the kit is to alternate drenches at the strengths listed on the bottle (as mls per gal of soil) and in the PDF instructions (as mls per gal of water), which booth work out about the same.

The instructions clearly say do not follow that ‘schedule’ on the calendar strictly in terms of timing, but to only water plants when ready/dry. The calendar just shows the structure.

Dugan feeds heavy and doesn’t really vary it (from what he says). Others feed lighter and vary it a lot depending on strain.

Alternating drenches is optimum way to do it. Others have experimented and developed differnt habits with it.

Your kind of asking - “what’s the best way to play a guitar?”


Slowpuffer said:
and that worked great also
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Exactly :thumb:

I hope you don’t think I’m being snippy - I don’t mean to be. I just think Doc and the other seasoned brixers do a fine job of saying to new growers - “here’s the basic and proven successful way of doing it (alternate drenches) so start there. And here’s all these variations that also work in subtly different ways, in different environments .”

I think just alternating drenches for a long time until you can actually start to see those subtle differences is what’s required - because otherwise we’d be blindly changing things without really knowing what we’re seeing or looking for etc.

Personally I read all the variations and nuanced approaches of growers and just file them away, for now, paying no attention to them in terms of it changing what I’m doing. I’m still trying to follow the basic structure and will keep doing that until I’m confident I have good reasons/instincts to make changes. I’m still learning to ‘read’ :D

I think the instructions do exactly what you’re asking for - they lay out the ‘best practice’ as far as Doc sees it at this time. Clearly YMMV :)
 
Puffer, the schedule u are looking for does not exist because everyone's situation is a bit different. Wats good for one grower using small pots and 1st run soil is very different than , say someone growing in 15 gal. pots with 3rd run soil. Also the size and age of the plants comes into play also. Like Amy said when plants get to be a good size and in the final pots i always give 15mls/gal. BUT when they are just seedlings in a solo cup or small #1 then NO don't give them a full strength Drench ...see wat i'm gettin at bud? The best way to do this is to simply alternate the Drenches giving straight water (can be 1/4 strength Transplant too) in between. Easy ...wats so hard or tricky about that ..i'm sorry bud , but i'm not getting your frustration,..this is so easy. NOTHING is written in stone because this is NOT a hydro /chemical grow. Everyone's situation is a bit different. Hope this helps ya some Puffer. cheers eh. If u have any questions u can always PM me for guidance OK.
 
Sup gang, thought I'd share a quick current photo of my babies. Ive got quite a bit of catching up to do along with updating my second journal. I'll be able to post more soon once my schedule settle down a bit.


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They are still in 1 gal, needs to be transplanted anytime soon and transfer into the room out of the closet area.

Hey Duggan, did you notice there's no screen? :)
 
Hey Fingers!... :high-five:...yes, i did notice. U can do it,..u have the skill. Your garden looks nice. Will u LST them at all bud , or just lettem go? I can /will assist u , if ya like , just sayin ok. Cheers .
 
Puff, what Amy and Duggan said! Alternate drenches! Simple as that! Amounts? Easy, go with Duggans method seedling get straight water for 1 or 2 times then while still on 1s make it 10ml of drench per gallon of Water and once in bigger pots up it to 15. Easy peasy Lemmon squeezy!

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I think what confused you was some talk about Cats throughout bloom but that was for people making seeds....
 
:passitleft: :high-five:
 
Slowpuffer said:
I’m confused, because I know that a best way to use these products, as currently formulated, exists. And almost every member that I communicate with, has a different feeding schedule..I don’t want to add another way of using the kit, I’d like a feeding schedule, that uses what current known information is available to create a feeding schedule, that’s best for all. One guy uses transplant throughout veg., while others alternate. i Just think the schedule should reflect the best known knowledge at time of printing. Not some formula thats good enough for everyone, but one that is the best known formula for everyone. Based on lab results &member results. Don’t get me wrong, I’ll eventually figure it out, but an updated articulated feeding schedule, reflecting best known current ratios would be helpful. If the kit is a work in progress, then the feed schedule should be updated periodically to reflect those changes. I shouldn’t have to go ask other members what to feed my plants. Best current info that I have came from you Duggan, 15 ml per gal, for all drenches. But I’ve tried 10ml per gl., and that worked great also. So I guess time will find us the correct portions.
One 1st run amendment is 20 oz.
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The idea isn't to produce a set of laws....the idea is to cultivate our natural "green thumbs" via observation and education.

Every garden and every strain is different....and experienced growers just "know" what to do based on pattern recognition, which is based on many hours of observation and experimentation.
 
:surf:.....ridin an ocean going canoe..like the one in the old Hawaii Five o show. :headbanger:
 
Yup...."book him Dano"
U got it 'G'...:headbanger:
 
dkloud83 said:
Ok which would be the best practice for a 2x4x4 space: 6 x 1gallons veg around 1 month keeping under 8 inches transplanted to 5 gallons or 3 x 2gallons veg around 2 months kept under 12 inches transplanted to 7-10 gallons??? 500-660 watts led
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Hi DK! Assuming your going to be using Docs Kit, yes? Then I'd veg 2 or 3 in 1s then move to 7s or 10s. If 7s, you could probably fit 3 and if 10s then 2 would fill the space for sure. As for transplanting, you can do it when it suits you BUT docs method would have you grow in the 1s for close to 2 months until they're drinking every day or 2 which means you'll have a serious root system. Size at this point is strain dependant but they could be 2 1/2 feet tall or more. Up can and flip same day. Of course you can train the plants in the 1s to keep them shorter.

Good luck!

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dkloud83 said:
Ok which would be the best practice for a 2x4x4 space: 6 x 1gallons veg around 1 month keeping under 8 inches transplanted to 5 gallons or 3 x 2gallons veg around 2 months kept under 12 inches transplanted to 7-10 gallons??? 500-660 watts led
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This is really tight vertical space....when picking strains you should stick to compact plants....the shorter the better. I am just finishing up some Laniakea and they would are perfect for a low ceiling situation.

Anything is possible as far as numbers and pot sizes....but after growing out 2 plants in a 3x3.....I would stick to one plant and bush it out to fill the space.
 
I agree with Ween here. 2 or 3 plants is what ur looking at in a 2x4. And shorter is best for a 4 ft vertical. Topping and daily LST should be enough to control height of anything that isn’t a big stretcher.

Gazoo has a 2x4 and does x3 plants in 7s. Or x2 in 10s currently. I believe this is the best fits unless ur going to be using smaller pots which isn’t recommended for Docs Kit.
 
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