Dennise - No Longer The Newest Of Newbies - Not Growing In MG - Perpetual

WildRosebud said:
Watchin the magic happen , waitin for update pic of corrected issue :) <3
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I will post a pic of her after the 2 doses of cal/mag. It is pretty amazing......:circle-of-love:
Light Addict said:
Some great info being shared :) best of buds Dennise! :)
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:passitleft:... High Light.....:circle-of-love:
Harley09 said:
Dennise I apologize for getting your journal sidetracked. :peace::sorry:

but we can still share a toke Dennise:passitleft:Harley
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Oh no... never apologize for great info....:circle-of-love:
WildRosebud said:
A keen eye is something developed over years with hands on experience. After awhile you stop using ph meters and just geter done noticing any issues before they blow out of proportion. Not with Hydro or no technical setups but I could be wrong but with green thumb dirt grows it becomes normal instinct. I am not a pro or nothing but I am glad I am becoming attuned to this stuff. Funny thing is I mostly learn from people who done this for far fewer years than I have so new tid bits of info start to mesh with what I learned already I love it! In this process you are one of the fastest progressing growers I seen here! You take everything so serious yet have a relaxed attitude and control over your situations.... Something I adore and strive my best to do as well! Hats off 4 Green thumb Dennise!
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:thanks:.......:circle-of-love:

Here's a pic of the OG Kush after 2 doses of cal/mag....:circle-of-love:
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Got a bit of an update on the outside Garden girl and AK flux... I was trying to hold off on watering because we are supposed to get a lot of rain this evening but they were looking pretty thirsty and I caught a bug on my Garden girl so I watered them both with 100ml of purified water with 2 ml of SNS209 which is an all natural systemic pest control containing rosemary extract and oil. I also gave them 1/2 gallon of purified water each with 3 tsp of Big Bloom per gallon......:circle-of-love:
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I had to put a board behind the AK flux to try and keep the sunflower off of her. I think that is where the bugs are actually coming from but it is not hanging over her now and the Garden girl was hard to get a pic of what she really looks like cause the wind is blowing pretty hard today blowing a cold front in... Thank God! They are growing well I think... I almost wish the Garden girl was in an even bigger pot cause I think I could have gotten a monster out of her but think I will leave well enough alone. Actually I wish I had the nerve to put her in the ground but again think I will leave good enough alone..........:circle-of-love:
 
Garden... got a question for ya.... I saw a bug on one of my Garden girls as you know then when I was outside earlier I noticed my sunflowers had holes eaten in some of the leaves so I got afraid something would start eating my girls and I don't want to put anything on them but did water them with SNS209 (Rosemary extract... works systemically) and figured it would take a bit for it to even think about working so I have some neem oil spray my fella uses on the big garden but I didn't want to spray it on my girls so I soaked everything around them in it. My thinking behind this was keeping the bugs away from my girls but then I got to thinking after I had already done it maybe that would just make the bugs jump on my girls cause everything else taste like zhit. So which is it? Did I flux up, did I make no difference at all,:lot-o-toke: did any of it even make sense?????.....:circle-of-love:
 
Yes, it makes sense! Thing about outdoor growing, you are going to have insects pop on and off. The main thing to growing outdoors is plant health. Keep your plants extremely healthy, don't let them wilt EVER (spider mites can see that zhit from space) and keep on top of foliar feeding. If you have some seaweed laying around...what do you have there? Does any of it have kelp in it at all? If it does, many insects do not like the taste of seaweed/kelp. If you use a weekly spray on the entire plant, undersides of the leaves, stems etc. you can get a level of protection from most piercing/sucking insects like aphids, mites, whitefly. I've been using this method for years.

As for the Neem on everything other than your pot, it's okay. Try to be a little less afraid to see an insect or a hole in a leaf. It is bound to happen and it's fine.

I hope that helps...
 
Thanxx Brooklyn. That's good info for me as well for my Fire Escape girls.
 
your flux is very clean it's a great pleasure to see how your evolving with this technique.

Still good job !!
 
Hey Dennise,

Noticed you where worried about bugs on your outdoor plants, with outdoor you are going to have bugs on your plants NO WAY around it.

In fact most of the bugs are good bugs, that keep the bad bugs under control. You just have to keep on eye out for larger infestations of the bad bugs, usually spider mites, but you can pre-empt this by gettign some lady bugs or predator mites. The good thing about growing outdoor is the natural predators for them are already there, so normally it will be kept under control naturally. Espcially if you foster the good bugs. Personally I love lady bugs, not as good at eating mites as predator mites, but they have good 'karma'. OO and praying mantis are great, I had some last year, hopefully find some more this year!

Thinking about ordering some for my outdoor greenhouse soon, but I have noticed that I have a mite infestation on plants from the indoor(no natural predators in there) that have been moved to the greenhuose, so going to blast them first when I get the Mighty Wash I ordered, then after that probably go with ladybugs/predator mites for rest of summer.

If you try and keep your outdoor plants completely bug free you will have no hair left by end of season from pulling it all out :)
 
Oh, and as an aside, about once a week if there is nothing I can see on the plants, I still take the hose and completely wash off the entire plant top to bottom. I make a very fine, but strong spray come out of the hose and do the undersides of the leaves too. If there is anything on there it will get washed off. I don't use a spray fine and HARD enough to cause tissue damage, but enough to knock anything off. There must be at least 6 hours to fully dry before it gets dark so I do this in the morning when insects are most actively eating.
 
We do as best as we can to control the bugs, it really depends on your local micro climate on what are the most dominant bug species around. I find that MOST of the bugs in my backyard are bad bugs, and I don't see ANY good bugs. There are almost no natural good bugs for me, so it's a constant battle, but we do as best as we can. Considering I live in a butterfly preserve, the most dominant things are caterpillars and worms.

My opinion on defoliation is that you have to be careful, stripping them to the bone can be detrimental for a plant that is not as vigorous and hardy as another specimen. The weather has an effect on the quality of their response as well, so the indoor defoliation response is different than the outdoor defoliation response. Be aware that, with outdoors, there are a lot of bugs, and fungus in the air, and continually wounding a plant can lower overall brix levels, and also the open wounds are a calling card to bugs and fungus that says " Hey I'm a weak plant, come get me! ", so you just have to be careful about when you do it, and what specimen it is performed on. The variable conditions outdoors is what makes the response different.

I am interested to see how the professors indoor fluxing methods go with these outdoor plants, and if you have great conditions I'm sure the bounce back is great, but a few cloudy days and a few bad bugs at the wrong time can spell disaster for a plant that isn't prepared.

Not directing this toward your plant, but just in general, it all depends on your local micro climate.

Dennise, your plant is a hardy specimen ;)
 
gardenfaerie said:
Oh, and as an aside, about once a week if there is nothing I can see on the plants, I still take the hose and completely wash off the entire plant top to bottom. I make a very fine, but strong spray come out of the hose and do the undersides of the leaves too. If there is anything on there it will get washed off. I don't use a spray fine and HARD enough to cause tissue damage, but enough to knock anything off. There must be at least 6 hours to fully dry before it gets dark so I do this in the morning when insects are most actively eating.
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People will do what works for them.

I know that I would NEVER do this. I would wake up the next day with mold on my plants. Since we live so close (500 yards to the crashing surf of the ocean, ~appx). Spraying my plants is a big no no. But if we have dry conditions and a nice breeze than I sometimes occasionally give the tops a sea kelp mist.

So people adapt and do what works for them :)
 
So people adapt and do what works for them
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So true, e.g. I live in a semi arid environment(at least till fall) so it good for me to spray my plants down in AM, particularly on the real hot and dry days.

Humidity can be a killer when you get to budding. AS i said before, in my area last Summer was a GREAT growing season till late September when we got 2 early season storms (record rainfall for Sep.) and anyone that was not growing in greenhouse lost most of their crop to mold.

Sadly, they are predicting the strongest El Nino ever recorded this year (no human caused 'Climate Change' is NOT A MYTH), which means wet fall/winter on the west coast, hopefully it hold off till after harvest if they are indeed right.
 
Harley09 said:
You got any marigolds? they are supposed to ward of bugs.

Duh I looked close at you pictures and see you have plenty sorry I got nothing else for ya.
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:passitleft:...I just learned that this year and put them around my big garden too and they work amazingly well.......:circle-of-love:
Crawdaddy said:
Hey Dennise,

Noticed you where worried about bugs on your outdoor plants, with outdoor you are going to have bugs on your plants NO WAY around it.

In fact most of the bugs are good bugs, that keep the bad bugs under control. You just have to keep on eye out for larger infestations of the bad bugs, usually spider mites, but you can pre-empt this by gettign some lady bugs or predator mites. The good thing about growing outdoor is the natural predators for them are already there, so normally it will be kept under control naturally. Espcially if you foster the good bugs. Personally I love lady bugs, not as good at eating mites as predator mites, but they have good 'karma'. OO and praying mantis are great, I had some last year, hopefully find some more this year!

Thinking about ordering some for my outdoor greenhouse soon, but I have noticed that I have a mite infestation on plants from the indoor(no natural predators in there) that have been moved to the greenhuose, so going to blast them first when I get the Mighty Wash I ordered, then after that probably go with ladybugs/predator mites for rest of summer.

If you try and keep your outdoor plants completely bug free you will have no hair left by end of season from pulling it all out :)
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The only ones that seem to be a bother are the friggin' ants and they apparently eat the greenery on the sunflowers behind the Garden girls and then drop onto my girls so I kinda moved the stalks away from my girls but other than that I haven't seen anything that looks harmful on em'.....:circle-of-love:
gardenfaerie said:
Oh, and as an aside, about once a week if there is nothing I can see on the plants, I still take the hose and completely wash off the entire plant top to bottom. I make a very fine, but strong spray come out of the hose and do the undersides of the leaves too. If there is anything on there it will get washed off. I don't use a spray fine and HARD enough to cause tissue damage, but enough to knock anything off. There must be at least 6 hours to fully dry before it gets dark so I do this in the morning when insects are most actively eating.
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I actually do that with the big garden but there is no way I will use the water out of the hose on my girls..:thedoubletake:.... I'll take a spray bottle of purified water and spray them good with it but I do check them really well almost daily for any kid of webbing or bugs....:circle-of-love:
Relaxed Lester said:
We do as best as we can to control the bugs, it really depends on your local micro climate on what are the most dominant bug species around. I find that MOST of the bugs in my backyard are bad bugs, and I don't see ANY good bugs. There are almost no natural good bugs for me, so it's a constant battle, but we do as best as we can. Considering I live in a butterfly preserve, the most dominant things are caterpillars and worms.

My opinion on defoliation is that you have to be careful, stripping them to the bone can be detrimental for a plant that is not as vigorous and hardy as another specimen. The weather has an effect on the quality of their response as well, so the indoor defoliation response is different than the outdoor defoliation response. Be aware that, with outdoors, there are a lot of bugs, and fungus in the air, and continually wounding a plant can lower overall brix levels, and also the open wounds are a calling card to bugs and fungus that says " Hey I'm a weak plant, come get me! ", so you just have to be careful about when you do it, and what specimen it is performed on. The variable conditions outdoors is what makes the response different.

I am interested to see how the professors indoor fluxing methods go with these outdoor plants, and if you have great conditions I'm sure the bounce back is great, but a few cloudy days and a few bad bugs at the wrong time can spell disaster for a plant that isn't prepared.

Not directing this toward your plant, but just in general, it all depends on your local micro climate.

Dennise, your plant is a hardy specimen ;)
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:thanks: and it is great info... I have actually seen a lot of lady bugs this spring and they are on my flowers in the back so that makes me feel pretty safe and the marigolds are workig amazingly well for catapillars. I usually have a bunch of them and I haven't seen one since I planted the marigolds.....:circle-of-love:
Crawdaddy said:
So true, e.g. I live in a semi arid environment(at least till fall) so it good for me to spray my plants down in AM, particularly on the real hot and dry days.

Humidity can be a killer when you get to budding. AS i said before, in my area last Summer was a GREAT growing season till late September when we got 2 early season storms (record rainfall for Sep.) and anyone that was not growing in greenhouse lost most of their crop to mold.

Sadly, they are predicting the strongest El Nino ever recorded this year (no human caused 'Climate Change' is NOT A MYTH), which means wet fall/winter on the west coast, hopefully it hold off till after harvest if they are indeed right.
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It's already been hot and dry here. Finally got rain today and the girls are showing how happy they are. It is awesome watching them after a rain shower. You can almost watch them grow.....:circle-of-love:
 
I have a update on the Top Led girls... the SBR Top in the closet 47 days in flower was watered today with 3 tsp Big Bloom, 2 tsp Grow Big, 2 tsp Tiger Bloom, .25 tsp Cha Ching and 1 tsp molasses per gallon of purified water and took the whole gallon............. the SBR clone in the closet 37 days in flower was also watered with 3 tsp Big Bloom, 2 tsp Grow Big, 2 tsp Tiger Bloom, .25 Beastie Bloom and 1 tsp molasses per gallon of purified water and also took the whole gallon.......:circle-of-love:
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