Curso's True High Brix!

BigIrishDoode said:
that is cool im interested in how it goes , you could use it in stacked smarties if you wanted to lol i need pretty much all the hb goodies and amendments to do it right again, been on a mission to conquer hydro lately lol
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I have the 20gl already ready to receive the 5gl pot. Hydro has been dumb in my world lately. We expanded that grow and added a few new 5gl buckets. Everything is locked out and dead by now. That is the main reason I went with soil for my personal grow, to many variables. I can see a switch happening on the horizon...lol
 
Everything that needed to be watered, did. Everything (in the flower tent) got brixed.

I sprayed a little bit more than I have been this round. Looking at the plants I can tell when a shot of brix will be beneficial. So, I really can't explain what to look for, maybe a stall or a lull in growth for a couple days(late flower) is generally time for something to happen.

I have a schedule in mind when I set forth with the grow and try to ballpark what I plan on doing as they grow. You can't schedule when you're kid shit's, right? That's the approach I take. I let the plant tell me when its time. We as growers just have to know what it's time for.

Again the art of the grow...
 
BigIrishDoode said:
that is cool im interested in how it goes , you could use it in stacked smarties if you wanted to lol i need pretty much all the hb goodies and amendments to do it right again, been on a mission to conquer hydro lately lol
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I also only have 7' of height to play with and a plant that'll have vegged for about 12 weeks by the time it flowers. Stacking them while a fantastic idea in room, isn't really applicable in a tent situation. I try to use every usable inch I can in there...
 
Big pot problems!

Fck me mate these suckers aren't easy to deal with! So heavy hard to tell when they need water without going hulk and moving at least one out of the tent. Considering a moisture meter to help me with watering frequency..

I hear ya on the ice wax yield, but it seems worth it to me. I don't like to use trim for BHO, nug runs only over here. Way more tasty. But shit man this full melt I'm chiefing on here smashes any BHO I've tried.

You mentioned how butane takes everything while bubble only does the surface. I haven't winterized a batch of BHO yet, and I don't care for all the plant waxes that come along BHO. That's mostly why im so psyched on IWE. I just feel like we are growing such nice organic high brix product, why not make a super clean organic extract containing just what we want - trichome heads! No aggressive solvents...just water and ice.

Nothing against BHO, that shit can be fire. But it seems much harder to produce a consistent, completely purged product at home. I think I saw a list of cannabis cup concentrate entries and many of them had solvent ppms in the thousands. I know that butane has a low LD50 and doesn't pose much (if any) of a health risk at these levels, but if given the option to make a completely safe quality product, I'll take that route.

I've been thinking about purchasing an AcrossInternational vacuum oven to dial in my BHO process, but wonder if it's worth it. I'm enjoying how much more smooth and tasty my full melt is, and it makes me every bit as high as oil.

Anyway brother not trying to attack BHO, or your preferences, hahaha just so stoked on ice wax, can't believe I've never tried before and no one in hawaii has anything like it.
 
tavosvo said:
Big pot problems!

Fck me mate these suckers aren't easy to deal with! So heavy hard to tell when they need water without going hulk and moving at least one out of the tent. Considering a moisture meter to help me with watering frequency..

I hear ya on the ice wax yield, but it seems worth it to me. I don't like to use trim for BHO, nug runs only over here. Way more tasty. But shit man this full melt I'm chiefing on here smashes any BHO I've tried.

You mentioned how butane takes everything while bubble only does the surface. I haven't winterized a batch of BHO yet, and I don't care for all the plant waxes that come along BHO. That's mostly why im so psyched on IWE. I just feel like we are growing such nice organic high brix product, why not make a super clean organic extract containing just what we want - trichome heads! No aggressive solvents...just water and ice.

Nothing against BHO, that shit can be fire. But it seems much harder to produce a consistent, completely purged product at home. I think I saw a list of cannabis cup concentrate entries and many of them had solvent ppms in the thousands. I know that butane has a low LD50 and doesn't pose much (if any) of a health risk at these levels, but if given the option to make a completely safe quality product, I'll take that route.

I've been thinking about purchasing an AcrossInternational vacuum oven to dial in my BHO process, but wonder if it's worth it. I'm enjoying how much more smooth and tasty my full melt is, and it makes me every bit as high as oil.

Anyway brother not trying to attack BHO, or your preferences, hahaha just so stoked on ice wax, can't believe I've never tried before and no one in hawaii has anything like it.
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Oh no bro I wasn't taking it as an attack at all. I was typing from my phone...lol Just giving you the reasons why we don't make Ice. Plus my HB trim goes into edibles bro. I wouldn't waste that good stuff on anything other than my meds ;) Mostly the BHO comes from the hydro grow. I wouldn't make butter with that stuff, it's unwashed.

We made an oven out with our chamber. It's really simple to do. If you were purging on a griddle after you scrape put the vacuum on the griddle and temp it out to like 145 and let it rip over night. Waxy finishes get higher temp. Shatter finish is a really low temp for a really long time. The vacuum with the heat makes it convection. Easy as pie bro ;) Get one of those lazer thermometers, they make life easy.
 
Curso, when I stopped using a time schedule I started waiting for a little droop as my sign to water & feed but that got old quick. Then I started lifting the pots to check the weight and that got old even quicker. Now I just stick a pop-sickle stick into the soil all the way down to the tip. If it comes out moist, wait for the next morning & repeat. If it comes out dry, feed. It's simple and has kept me from over or under watering lately.
A lot of you use deeper pots than I do so a longer type stick would probably be better.
 
BAR do ya think that technique works whether it's fabric or plastic or clay?

I had some unexpected observations of roots in fabric pots lately. I noted dry spots and a tendency for roots to shy away from the sides. I wondered if it was the effect of foliar feeding. I also thought it could be related to the rapid drying that occurs at the margins of fabric pots. I am going to continue to use them but I'm going to be more vigilant about soil moisture. I plan to give more thorough drenches.

I'm concerned that a rigorous wet/dry cycle might not be the best technique with fast draining media in a fabric pot.
 
VonDankenhoek said:
BAR do ya think that technique works whether it's fabric or plastic or clay?

I had some unexpected observations of roots in fabric pots lately. I noted dry spots and a tendency for roots to shy away from the sides. I wondered if it was the effect of foliar feeding. I also thought it could be related to the rapid drying that occurs at the margins of fabric pots. I am going to continue to use them but I'm going to be more vigilant about soil moisture. I plan to give more thorough drenches.

I'm concerned that a rigorous wet/dry cycle might not be the best technique with fast draining media in a fabric pot.
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Im getting roots popping through the soft pot, midway down in 3 gal softie..
 
I only have one fabric pot but it was thirsty twice as often as the two healthiest plants I have in hard pots. There's no one who's ever replied to whether this was a sound method are not yet. It's just something I came up with to make my life easier.
 
Curso said:
Oh no bro I wasn't taking it as an attack at all. I was typing from my phone...lol Just giving you the reasons why we don't make Ice. Plus my HB trim goes into edibles bro. I wouldn't waste that good stuff on anything other than my meds ;) Mostly the BHO comes from the hydro grow. I wouldn't make butter with that stuff, it's unwashed.

We made an oven out with our chamber. It's really simple to do. If you were purging on a griddle after you scrape put the vacuum on the griddle and temp it out to like 145 and let it rip over night. Waxy finishes get higher temp. Shatter finish is a really low temp for a really long time. The vacuum with the heat makes it convection. Easy as pie bro ;) Get one of those lazer thermometers, they make life easy.
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Ya I'm running a vac chamber and a double boiler, using a laser temp gun..I just feel like no matter how hard I try, temps will always be inconsistent in that sort of remedial set up. I bet a vac oven makes much most consistent product. I'm also on the fence about commercially available butane as opposed to industry used n-butane or co2, not to mention how wasteful an open loop system is. There is also the case of "mystery oil" that appears if canned tane is purged in a terpinator. I think people running those dump their cans in the system and recover the butane leaving behind the "mystery oil" then they do the extraction with the clean tane. I'd love to have a closed loop co2 extractor. Chee big$$$.

I know i can make medical quality water hash...BHO idk.

Just some issues I've been waffling about for a while now.....
 
B A R said:
I only have one fabric pot but it was thirsty twice as often as the two healthiest plants I have in hard pots. There's no one who's ever replied to whether this was a sound method are not yet. It's just something I came up with to make my life easier.
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I guess there are so many variables. I use 7 gal budget, fabric pots and after a long while I caught on to gauging the moisture level by the feel of the sides of the pot along with the weight. I usually get a good root mat at the bottom but not so much around the sides. I'm gonna try your stick idea. At minimum I'll get a decent read on soil condition at the base.
 
tavosvo said:
Ya I'm running a vac chamber and a double boiler, using a laser temp gun..I just feel like no matter how hard I try, temps will always be inconsistent in that sort of remedial set up. I bet a vac oven makes much most consistent product. I'm also on the fence about commercially available butane as opposed to industry used n-butane or co2, not to mention how wasteful an open loop system is. There is also the case of "mystery oil" that appears if canned tane is purged in a terpinator. I think people running those dump their cans in the system and recover the butane leaving behind the "mystery oil" then they do the extraction with the clean tane. I'd love to have a closed loop co2 extractor. Chee big$$$.

I know i can make medical quality water hash...BHO idk.

Just some issues I've been waffling about for a while now.....
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We got one of those induction burners for the chamber. It's a constant temp. and digital. Best 99.99 we spent. But honestly, now that I am not working I have no use for BHO..lol I like it and all but I'd rather have an edible a cup of coffee and a bong rip. That and I bought that Nugzilla Jr from Vape Ape. I can vape flowers as easily as wax and I prefer the flower buzz. BHO to me is like crack. You gotta keep hitting that shit to stay medicated. IDC how good the bho is, it doesn't last 1/4 as long as the same amount of HB bong rips.

I proved something to myself about bho on tuesday actually. My buddy whom I fight with likes to vape the way down to fight practice. If I ride with him, I vape my face off too. This past tuesday (Yep I finally got to fight) I drove myself and did my usual edible, bp coffee and a couple hb bong rips. Man, I haven't fought that good in a while and it's been like 12 weeks. I think I'll be leaving the vape alone before we go from now on..lol
 
VonDankenhoek said:
I guess there are so many variables. I use 7 gal budget, fabric pots and after a long while I caught on to gauging the moisture level by the feel of the sides of the pot along with the weight. I usually get a good root mat at the bottom but not so much around the sides. I'm gonna try your stick idea. At minimum I'll get a decent read on soil condition at the base.
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I had a hard time figuring it out too. I went to more frequent smaller amounts of water. That's pretty much how I started using that 3 qt jug I use to water and feed with. I know that I can give them 3 qts every other day and they never suffer in a 7gl pot. A couple times per grow I soak the fuck out of them with 2 jugs full (6 qt). Then give them like 4 days to soak it up.

Yes this 20gl pot is gonna be one heavy ass bitch. That's why its going on wheels. I haven't built it yet, but it has been planned. Not that I should have to move it at all once it's in flower. The only reason I see to have to move it is for pictures. That I can live with.

The 20 gl pot got wet this morning and the remaining 2 late blooming plants will get some energy and tea this morning too. Going into week 8 things are looking fantastic. I am very happy with the HSO Lost Coast Hashplant and this AK-47. That sour Diesel #2 hit the jar and got me baked, just dry. This is going to be a really good batch of diesel.
 
Some bud shots from inside the tent...

AK47

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Lost Coast Hashplant
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Here is the Sour Diesel #2 that got Cat drench the other day. It's been watered 2x now...
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VonDankenhoek said:
Exciting bro looks tasty.

I'm gonna use some saucers under the fabric bags next run. I had been holding them off the ground (bathtub) using cooling trays. I think it might make more sense if they had a solid material supporting the base.

Think that would matter?
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Mine are all in saucers bro. Go one size bigger than the pot and bottom feed them. They like that shit ;)
 
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