Could anyone explain the colouring of this seedling? Promix Soiless mix no nutes just pHed water so far: White Widow autoflower germinated July 27

These are all Auto flower plant Im running right now 2x white widows and 2x Early Miss these are my other girls that are healthy and
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Can you shed light on why? It is to my understanding that a seedling of this size doesn’t need any nutes at all? Just pHed water
 
Dutchman1990 said:
Just started to notice that the colouring of one of my girls is off could anyone shed some light on this for me? Any thoughts are appreciated.
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IT IS DYING BECAUSE YOU`VE NOT FED IT! HOW DO YOU EXPECT IT TO GROW OTHERWISE?BIG MISTAKE USING PLAIN SOIL.USE FERTILISED SOIL,@1.2 EC 6.5 PH. ITS NOT ANYTHING ELSE. :oops::rolleyes:
 
Dutchman1990 said:
Can you shed light on why? It is to my understanding that a seedling of this size doesn’t need any nutes at all? Just pHed water
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You are 420% correct! You typically don't want to start feeding nutes until the plant has three true nodes and, it can go much longer in soil since there are nutrients in the soil. This is NOT a Nitrogen deficiency which would cause the lower leaves to turn completely yellow/pale and would likely be the first sign the plant needs to be fed.
 
I have them in 4” pots currently and have only watered twice since starting. They havnt drank much but I’m trying to allow for the “wet/dry” cycle . Am I right to think they will start drinking more and growin quicker now that the second nodes have began
 
Dutchman1990 said:
I have them in 4” pots currently and have only watered twice since starting. They havnt drank much but I’m trying to allow for the “wet/dry” cycle . Am I right to think they will start drinking more and growin quicker now that the second nodes have began
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Yes, as they get more & more roots, they'll uptake more & more water/nutes.

FYI, since you're getting so much misleading advice on your issue, I just put a post on one of the soil threads that has a huge following of expert soil growers. Perhaps they can lend some additional opinions?
 
I’m not an expert by any means, but Ive grown a few plants :) . Just looking at the fact that all your others are fine and that you’re growing them all in the same way, Mr Krip seems to be to be right on the money. Plus the photographs Krip shared show it really clearly. ANd it is true that at this stage nutrient issues aren’t really relevant.

If it were me I’d drop another seed now and get rid of it. You don’t want to mess with viruses and end up losing them all. The next seed (if you have one) shouldn’t be too far behind :thumb:
 
Good morning Krip, Amy, 1990 and friends. I have seen this many times before and could very well be TMV as krip said. He does seem to have some knowledge regarding this so...i'l put my thoughts out there . This is as Krip also said ...a genetic mutation and is fairly normal. Give it a few weeks , it/she may grow out of this . Like i said , i have grown many plants that appeared to have this virus , only to grow 'out of it' after a few weeks. That lil pot of Promix is fine right now , but will need some supplemental feeding , very soon as she grows she will use up what little nutes are available in straight ProMix fairly quickly. Cheers 1990, Krip, Amy and friends.
 
Dutchman1990 said:
Hey all so thanks for any advice and info this far!! Here is a updated photo now of her second set of leaves coming in. After correcting her water PH on Friday the other 2girls have perked up this one widow has grown but still showing this patterning.

Here she is ! I’m leaning towards TMV now as the second leaves are slightly discoloured as well.

Any further
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thoughts and advice are greatly appreciated
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I've had similar looking leaves/plants over the years. I, too, thought mine had TMV, but it never spread and seemed to dissipate as the plants got bigger. FWIW, I've grown WW a number of times. Many of my WW plants have had some weird mottled patterns on their leaves over time. I've had many individual WW leaflets that were curved similar to a scimitar Scimitar - Wikipedia . My seeds came from I love growing marijuana dot com. Not sure who the breeder actually is. If you think its TMV try to separate the plant(s) from others, wash your hands before handling another plant, etc. Personally, I don't think it's TMV.
 
What are the odds? You don't smoke. Nobody around the seeds/plants smoke. The seeds are all from the same place?

But ... why take the risk of losing all the plants, if it's a virus?

I think I would isolate it right now from the other 3, if you haven't already. It's a seeding, so it needs very little at this point. Do you by chance have a spare light? If not, I'd put it where it gets indirect sun. Give it a couple of weeks and see if it will grow out of it.
 
Hi there, I'm still new to growing but I hope this can help you.
I recently had this exact problem with a couple of my seedlings, I actually could have confused the pic of yours with mine. Oddly enough, one of mine is White Widow from Seedsman. I believe this strain may just innately be sensitive to pH balance issues. The other was honey cream. I tested my water source and realized I was sitting around 7.2-ish so I popped out to the local grow shop and picked up some pH down acid supplement ( seemed scary at first, I suppose you could use lime or lemon juice ). I've already noticed a happy reaction in my seedling and hope it continues. I'll post up some pictures as soon as I'm able so to so you have a visual.

But just know, I'm right here with you @Dutchman1990 having the same issue so I'll be following this thread for sure. Good luck, and happy growing!:goodluck::goodluck:
 
@ddGreenThumb @Calvados @medmanmike @Duggan thank you all for your input !! It’s a honour to grow along side you all and take in all this helpful information !! @ddGreenThumb im glad I’m not the only one suffering from this Im looking at feeding the girls their first round of veg nutes in a day when it’s time for the next round of watering !
Thanks again everyone and I’ll keep you all posted with new pictures over the next few days/weeks to show you how she’s doing !

Best regards and smoke happy !
 
Mr. Krip said:
You are 420% correct! You typically don't want to start feeding nutes until the plant has three true nodes and, it can go much longer in soil since there are nutrients in the soil. This is NOT a Nitrogen deficiency which would cause the lower leaves to turn completely yellow/pale and would likely be the first sign the plant needs to be fed.
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No,I planted seeds in non fertilised soil and for a week or so and they all turned like the pics above. Tried with ferted soil and no prob.
 
800W-GROWER said:
No,I planted seeds in non fertilised soil and for a week or so and they all turned like the pics above. Tried with ferted soil and no prob.
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Please don't take my word for it and please don't base science on your experience with a few specific plants. Do some research and you will find what I'm saying is correct, in spite of any previous experiences you may have had. I truly intend no dis-respect, I just don't want the OP to get misleading info.

All nutrients needed to support the plant for the first couple of weeks are in the cotyledons (that first set of rounded leaves). The roots are not developed enough to uptake nutrients.

Most any experienced grower will tell you that young seedlings do not need nutes for their first couple of weeks or until they have at least three nodes and can go much longer in soil, depending on the size of the container. In fact, many of the nute manufacturers will instruct this, as well.

I understand and appreciate that your plants problems appeared to dissipate after you fed them, but that alone, does not show lack of feeding was the cause.

:Namaste:
 
Mr. Krip said:
Please don't take my word for it and please don't base science on your experience with a few specific plants. Do some research and you will find what I'm saying is correct, in spite of any previous experiences you may have had. I truly intend no dis-respect, I just don't want the OP to get misleading info.

All nutrients needed to support the plant for the first couple of weeks are in the cotyledons (that first set of rounded leaves). The roots are not developed enough to uptake nutrients.

Most any experienced grower will tell you that young seedlings do not need nutes for their first couple of weeks or until they have at least three nodes and can go much longer in soil, depending on the size of the container. In fact, many of the nute manufacturers will instruct this, as well.

I understand and appreciate that your plants problems appeared to dissipate after you fed them, but that alone, does not show lack of feeding was the cause.

:Namaste:
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I stand by my qoute.
 
Mr. Krip said:
Please don't take my word for it and please don't base science on your experience with a few specific plants. Do some research and you will find what I'm saying is correct, in spite of any previous experiences you may have had. I truly intend no dis-respect, I just don't want the OP to get misleading info.

All nutrients needed to support the plant for the first couple of weeks are in the cotyledons (that first set of rounded leaves). The roots are not developed enough to uptake nutrients.

Most any experienced grower will tell you that young seedlings do not need nutes for their first couple of weeks or until they have at least three nodes and can go much longer in soil, depending on the size of the container. In fact, many of the nute manufacturers will instruct this, as well.

I understand and appreciate that your plants problems appeared to dissipate after you fed them, but that alone, does not show lack of feeding was the cause.

:Namaste:
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I agree with you @Mr. Krip i have done nothing but research getting into this journey and time and time again I see the pros saying nothing but water till 3 nodes! I will have updated pictures of the girls today as Well as a detailed write up of how they have been over the past 2 days !
 
Looks like a little leaf variegation. I had it in my Jack Herer and it outgrew it. I am not sure its TMV.

I wouldn't go in full panic mode, but thats just me.
 
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