Copperrein's Summer 2021 Outdoor Soil Grow

Running out the door but wanted to do a quick update:

Outdoor ladies are outdoors again. Hoping they've seen the last of Michigan's colder weather:


CAUTION...THE FOLLOWING MAY BE UPSETTING TO SOME VIEWERS:

The hash orphans...some are pretty dead...some look like they'll pull through. We shall see!


Apologies for the over exposed tablet photos. It's hard to shoot with that thing when the sun's out.
 
So I have a root fetish. I guess that's like a foot fetish but more useful since I grow weed.

I've been messing about with kratky systems because they're easy and seem to make for incredible results. This is catnip but I may try to grow cannabis like this at some point:


I love all the furry feeder roots <3
 
Hey Copper is that those clay balls that you're growing in? I have seen bags of them in the hydro shop, but they look like the roots would get damaged if they moved on picking them up, but I guess that can't be a problem.
 
So I have a root fetish. I guess that's like a foot fetish but more useful since I grow weed.

I've been messing about with kratky systems because they're easy and seem to make for incredible results. This is catnip but I may try to grow cannabis like this at some point:


I love all the furry feeder roots <3
You got me breathing heavy too, looking at those roots!
 
Hey Copper is that those clay balls that you're growing in? I have seen bags of them in the hydro shop, but they look like the roots would get damaged if they moved on picking them up, but I guess that can't be a problem.
Yeah! I used them in my last hydro grow. They're super easy but I wanted to try the coco perlite mix to see if I can get a more evenly distributed root mass down in the bucket. Not sure if it was the hydroton or some other aspect of my ghetto setup, but my plants roots seemed to favor one side of their net pots.

If you have cats be careful where you store it... Mine kept stealing balls to play with and you step on one just right you're going down. Almost ate concrete a few times because of cats and hydroton.

@StoneOtter Edit: posted non 420 hearts... Lemme try using the correct emote set: :green_heart: :green_heart: :green_heart:
 
Yeah! I used them in my last hydro grow. They're super easy but I wanted to try the coco perlite mix to see if I can get a more evenly distributed root mass down in the bucket. Not sure if it was the hydroton or some other aspect of my ghetto setup, but my plants roots seemed to favor one side of their net pots.

If you have cats be careful where you store it... Mine kept stealing balls to play with and you step on one just right you're going down. Almost ate concrete a few times because of cats and hydroton.

@StoneOtter Edit: posted non 420 hearts... Lemme try using the correct emote set: :green_heart: :green_heart: :green_heart:
Love our cat's but sometimes
 
More root porn...I did not expect this much growth. I remembered when I started my plants last spring I didn't even have a real grow light.

I'll have to spend a little more care and time when I move them to their final pots to try to undo any spiraling and whatnot happening currently.


 
Hello all!

Life is starting to overwhelm me but I checked the budzai and outdoor girls this morning. Last night I tried to FIM some new growth. I still don't fully understand what I'm supposed to be doing exactly. What plant structure am I supposed to cut through? I have yet to get more than two new branches from FIM. Has anyone gotten more than that? Is it a grower's myth?




An aside: I started a new business with my man and our friend and I'm terrified. We open May 1st. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the idea of a business...a real one...not like freelancing my art. GRANTED IT'S JUST A TENT THIS YEAR but holy shit guys I want to cry. What have I done? There's so many pointless what-ifs in my brain right now.

Cannabis is helping but the old dread and failure mantra-singing part of my brain is doing a mighty good effort at clawing itself to the surface. 100% imposter syndrome is there real strong, too. In my head I still feel like an incapable young person. I've produced life and raised it to an arbitrary age at which the world says the bond is cut and my job is done, yet I feel like I'm not mature enough to run a 'real' business. Fuck my brain.

I just needed to vent. My mate has it worse so I can't really unload on him and our friends circles all connect to him or our business partner and I don't want word getting around bout my belly turning yellow on this. Internal screaming intensifies.
 
You can only do your best Copper. Line up the ducks as well as you can and just do your best, you can't do more than that, even if it turns to custard you did all you could do, so if it's passed all the planning and initial considerations put aside the self doubt and self criticism and run with it, the chances are it'll be fine. I hope you soon feel better about it.

Re FIMing, I think if your cut is a bit too low you might miss the FIM. You can always try a FIM cut on 2 or 3 plants and vary the cut position and see which one/s produces the desired result.
 
You can only do your best Copper. Line up the ducks as well as you can and just do your best, you can't do more than that, even if it turns to custard you did all you could do, so if it's passed all the planning and initial considerations put aside the self doubt and self criticism and run with it, the chances are it'll be fine. I hope you soon feel better about it.

Re FIMing, I think if your cut is a bit too low you might miss the FIM. You can always try a FIM cut on 2 or 3 plants and vary the cut position and see which one/s produces the desired result.
Great idea!

I just noticed the hashtag in your sig so lemme ask you another question: My grow season is about 5 months. If I keep topping my plant in veg I'll end up with more main colas at the cost of overall plant mass, right? Is there a balance 'rule of thumb' regarding how many 'lines' (main, quad) are optimal for an outdoor grow? Genetics and environment aside.

I'm thinking I could actually keep topping and doubling colas until a month before natural 12/12. The more I smoke of last year's harvest the more apparent the difference in quality is between main colas and larf. I'd like to avoid larf all together through more stringent lolly-popping while upping yeilds.

:roorrip:
 
Great idea!

I just noticed the hashtag in your sig so lemme ask you another question: My grow season is about 5 months. If I keep topping my plant in veg I'll end up with more main colas at the cost of overall plant mass, right? Is there a balance 'rule of thumb' regarding how many 'lines' (main, quad) are optimal for an outdoor grow? Genetics and environment aside.

I'm thinking I could actually keep topping and doubling colas until a month before natural 12/12. The more I smoke of last year's harvest the more apparent the difference in quality is between main colas and larf. I'd like to avoid larf all together through more stringent lolly-popping while upping yeilds.

:roorrip:

I understand there is a relationship between cola sizes of topped/multiple topped plants and non topped plants. But for my grows I can't go over 2 feet tall so fully grown Christmas trees are not an option for me unfortunately. I promised myself last time that like you, I would prune off all larf growth and lollypop, but I failed to do so this time, however for my next grow I am pretty determined to do this and probably also prune off any weak stems too as to me, weak stems never yield much and in my growing environment I could do with reducing canopy size and just focus on stems that can produce thick colas.

I have actually never carried out multiple toppings, only ever a single one, but each time I have quadlined and on 1 plant this year quinlined, I have done so growing out the stems horizontally so there becomes many individual colas like multiple toppings. I don't have much choice with a 2 foot height limit. But last year my 2 quad lines yielded 19oz. I don't know exactly what this year's will yield as it hasn't finished drying yet. Multiple toppings sound good if you have some height to play with. :hookah:
 
I understand there is a relationship between cola sizes of topped/multiple topped plants and non topped plants. But for my grows I can't go over 2 feet tall so fully grown Christmas trees are not an option for me unfortunately. I promised myself last time that like you, I would prune off all larf growth and lollypop, but I failed to do so this time, however for my next grow I am pretty determined to do this and probably also prune off any weak stems too as to me, weak stems never yield much and in my growing environment I could do with reducing canopy size and just focus on stems that can produce thick colas.

I have actually never carried out multiple toppings, only ever a single one, but each time I have quadlined and on 1 plant this year quinlined, I have done so growing out the stems horizontally so there becomes many individual colas like multiple toppings. I don't have much choice with a 2 foot height limit. But last year my 2 quad lines yielded 19oz. I don't know exactly what this year's will yield as it hasn't finished drying yet. Multiple toppings sound good if you have some height to play with. :hookah:

Thank you. I feel like my logic is sound, however this plant keeps surprising me with its nuances and I feel better when guru/semi-gurus chime in.

I just learned that clones never make a taproot and that makes me feel bad for them :D (this has nothing to do with topping...just random)
 
I just learned that clones never make a taproot and that makes me feel bad for them :D (this has nothing to do with topping...just random)
Sad, isn't it. Poor things are missing the genetic instructions found in the first little root that pushes through when the seed germinates.
 
An aside: I started a new business with my man and our friend and I'm terrified. We open May 1st. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the idea of a business...a real one...not like freelancing my art. GRANTED IT'S JUST A TENT THIS YEAR but holy shit guys I want to cry. What have I done? There's so many pointless what-ifs in my brain right now.

Cannabis is helping but the old dread and failure mantra-singing part of my brain is doing a mighty good effort at clawing itself to the surface. 100% imposter syndrome is there real strong, too. In my head I still feel like an incapable young person. I've produced life and raised it to an arbitrary age at which the world says the bond is cut and my job is done, yet I feel like I'm not mature enough to run a 'real' business. Fuck my brain.

I just needed to vent. My mate has it worse so I can't really unload on him and our friends circles all connect to him or our business partner and I don't want word getting around bout my belly turning yellow on this. Internal screaming intensifies.
Hi Copperrein! I can't say that I know how you feel but I imagine all those feelings are normal, plus having others involved in it must increase your stress. Starting a business is, in my opinion, a brave endeavor. I wouldn't know where to begin. I've only "known" you here for a few months but seems to me you've got your shit pretty well together. Deep breath, enjoy the ride! It's gonna be great! :love:
 
Hi Copperrein! I can't say that I know how you feel but I imagine all those feelings are normal, plus having others involved in it must increase your stress. Starting a business is, in my opinion, a brave endeavor. I wouldn't know where to begin. I've only "known" you here for a few months but seems to me you've got your shit pretty well together. Deep breath, enjoy the ride! It's gonna be great!

Thank you, Boo. My shit's only barely clumped together. More like raccoon and less like dog. What I wouldn't give for wombat.
 
So I have a root fetish. I guess that's like a foot fetish but more useful since I grow weed.

I've been messing about with kratky systems because they're easy and seem to make for incredible results. This is catnip but I may try to grow cannabis like this at some point:


I love all the furry feeder roots <3
A root fetish means something very different here, it usually ends in chlamydia and a script for antibiotics.
 
A root fetish means something very different here, it usually ends in chlamydia and a script for antibiotics.
Mmmm....bogans

I'm alive. The plants are alive. Life is really good right now...just stupid busy. I took part of yesterday off and today to get the outdoor girls out and the little budzai is puttering along staying all small and cute:

















Big apologies for the dump and run. I am hurty and need some couch time. Also sunburn because at my age I still can't figure out wonderbread white and sunshine = ouch. Holy crap balls once this weekend is done and we've got all the kinks (LOLOLOL) worked out...I should have more time to get lost in watched journals.

OH! John's been working on coming up with fireworks stars that look 'blurple'. Here's the batch that's come closest:


ok....imma go veg
 
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