Conradino23's Another Outdoor Grow With High Brix Soil - Air-Pots & SoCal Seed Stock

[ilikemsticky]

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ok sounds good i do have tea that will be ready tomorrow to 1 gal r/o water i add 1/2 cup ewc,1 cup compost,1/8cup alfalfa meal,1/8 cup sea plex,1tbls. fulvex,and 1 tea bag emptied of oolong tea,and molasses then i bubble that for 24 or more hrs. what do you think!

 

[TheGreenYeti]

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The girls are chugging along Con! I always enjoy watching those UDs. They look like a really nice out door variety. The other girls look good too I am just drawn to the UDs.

 

[Conradino23]

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ok sounds good i do have tea that will be ready tomorrow to 1 gal r/o water i add 1/2 cup ewc,1 cup compost,1/8cup alfalfa meal,1/8 cup sea plex,1tbls. fulvex,and 1 tea bag emptied of oolong tea,and molasses then i bubble that for 24 or more hrs. what do you think!

I'm not a big fan of RO, but I mine is very high quality. I'd put just EWC or compost in your tea or mix them both in small proportions. You don't need more than that and maybe good temps and a bubbler

 

[Conradino23]

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The girls are chugging along Con! I always enjoy watching those UDs. They look like a really nice out door variety. The other girls look good too I am just drawn to the UDs.

Yeah well bred from mostly outdoor stock and then grown as F1 outdoor only. But F2 works very well indoor too, there are growers actually who may even say this is a perfect indoor strain. It's a very early finisher with powerful punch and plants don't get too big, so they're very manageable

 

[ilikemsticky]

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ok sounds good i would use my tap water but the chlorine i did check my tap 30 ppm 7.5ph i could put my tap water in a 5 gal bucket and bubble it for a couple days that would get the chlorine out and then ph it that might be better than my r/o water!

 

[Conradino23]

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Ok then go with RO, but you should enrich with some calcium/magnesium, cause otherwise you'll whack the balance of minerals. Think what you could use to provide for lost minerals. It's really the easiest way to provide stable source of these minerals, mineral or mineralised water.

 

[ilikemsticky]

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i do have calmag and i could put a very small pinch of rock dust, i didnt want this to be to big a hassle for you but thanks!

 

[Tomster420]

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Ok then go with RO, but you should enrich with some calcium/magnesium, cause otherwise you'll whack the balance of minerals. Think what you could use to provide for lost minerals. It's really the easiest way to provide stable source of these minerals, mineral or mineralised water.

I've been using natural spring mineral water to water the little ones I have atm. Fresh from a natural spring about an hours drive from where I live. They love it!

 

[TheGreenYeti]

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Yeah well bred from mostly outdoor stock and then grown as F1 outdoor only. But F2 works very well indoor too, there are growers actually who may even say this is a perfect indoor strain. It's a very early finisher with powerful punch and plants don't get too big, so they're very manageable

I bet they do very well inside as well. I have seen what you have showed of your friends indoor ones and they looked good. They seem to really dig it outside though and not every strain does.

 

[Radogast]

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CG '72 in all their sativa glory!

I really like this strain, there's one dwarfy pheno, but all the others seem resistant to pests, heavy weather and they have good vigour. No idea when they'll start flowering and when they'll finish, but I hope for late October or early November. They don't need any serious fertilisation, they don't need much care and they're cracking 15 Brix on top of everything else.

Wow - Look at the leaves on that girl. Beautiful.

 

[Radogast]

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And last but not least all my UDs that really started springing colas after LST.

Those girls look the picture of health....very impressive.

 

[NorCaliwood]

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Is this one of the ones I have, #2 or #3. Both have a great indica look to them. Not sure which, I think #3 is a short squat plant. I plan on finishing both, or as close as possible with that Oct 1st harvest dates. I love the loves of that Lumbo... GL and Keepem Green

 

[Conradino23]

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i do have calmag and i could put a very small pinch of rock dust, i didnt want this to be to big a hassle for you but thanks!

Yeah that'll do it. Italian mineral and spring waters have anything from 200 mg/L up to 800 mg/L of calcium, which is 200-800 ppm. With that kind of Ca2+ content plants will be always happy.

I've been using natural spring mineral water to water the little ones I have atm. Fresh from a natural spring about an hours drive from where I live. They love it!

Yeah that works

I bet they do very well inside as well. I have seen what you have showed of your friends indoor ones and they looked good. They seem to really dig it outside though and not every strain does.

I actually haven't tried the indoor bud yet, but cause UD been created and bred outdoor it thrives in outdoor conditions, especially in southern hot dry/humid climates.

Wow - Look at the leaves on that girl. Beautiful.

Those girls look the picture of health....very impressive.

I'm quite satisfied with the route they're taking. Brix are climbing and so the general looks. Well as you know they grow directly in soil, which is strong enough to provide for healthy cycle, there's mulch on top of the soil and they've been inoculated at the start. I've feed them exactly twice since April and they say they don't need more. We also had a lot of rain fortunately so they're fixed waterwise... and that's a miracle, cause half of Italy is in a state of drought with temps reaching 44°C in the shadow in Sicily!

Is this one of the ones I have, #2 or #3. Both have a great indica look to them. Not sure which, I think #3 is a short squat plant. I plan on finishing both, or as close as possible with that Oct 1st harvest dates. I love the loves of that Lumbo... GL and Keepem Green

All the plants in this row are F2 UDs with most of them leaning towards Aurora Ultra (OG) side of the strain. And yeah by 1st of October they should be mature enough to be chopped completely. I harvested UDs around 23rd September personally and the bud was still very potent with around 90% cloudy trichs. Lumbo is looking absolutely gorgeous, let's hope they will get harvested

 

[Neiko]

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I actually contacted USC and they said they'd keep it as a line in their stables for good.

What does USC stand for?

Your plants are looking gorgeous! That Columbian though....Wow!

 

[Tead]

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Yeah well bred from mostly outdoor stock and then grown as F1 outdoor only. But F2 works very well indoor too, there are growers actually who may even say this is a perfect indoor strain. It's a very early finisher with powerful punch and plants don't get too big, so they're very manageable

"Perfect" would seem to be a wildly changing target depending heavily on many variables in one's world, but they sure have found a home in my little world.
Tead's been growing them in his indoor swamp for a while now. If anyone wants to see a small form factor UD indoor grow, feel free to stop on by.

So Con, how do you identify the Chem phenos vs. the OG phenos? I see wider leaves and more leaf mass. Any other indicators?

 

[Conradino23]

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What does USC stand for?

Your plants are looking gorgeous! That Columbian though....Wow!

It's Underground Seed Collective, rather smallish seedbank focused on rare strains. They do top notch work though.

 

[Tead]

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Sorry... dumb words edited to remove them.... nothing to see here....

 

[Conradino23]

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"Perfect" would seem to be a wildly changing target depending heavily on many variables in one's world, but they sure have found a home in my little world.
Tead's been growing them in his indoor swamp for a while now. If anyone wants to see a small form factor UD indoor grow, feel free to stop on by.

So Con, how do you identify the Chem phenos vs. the OG phenos? I see wider leaves and more leaf mass. Any other indicators?

For me it's kinda easy, cause I grew the mother strain (Aurora Ultra) for 2 years and I know very well how she looks. This is her in early flowering:

And that's her in late flowering:

As you can see she has quite long internodes, very little leaf, but grows quite big and resinous buds with very little fertilisation. AU was BXed once to OG Kush before she became a staple strain in lembatoast's garden, which means dominant traits have been strengthened, Crossing to Chemdawg '91/NYCD via father caused this strain to become a bigger producer, changed terpenoid profile completely (one of the biggest advantages in this case) and changed the structure in roughly 50% of the phenos. It became less of a hash strain though. Aurora Ultra produces trichomes, which practically come off by themselves and they make for A+ grade dry sift hash and concentrate while those on UD usually stick to buds almost as glue, so flowers need long drying/curing process to be perfectly smokable.

A breakdown of phenos in F1 UD was that most of them leaned on AU side, which I call OG phenos. Here they are:

High is more typical of OG here with euphoric/soaring onset that staggers into indica relaxation after and 1,5 hr or so. Excellent mix, but with overwhelming take off. These plants however produce less and they're more prone to bud worm infestation. They also branch out poorly as you can see in F2, so you have to top and LST them to get better yield. There's also a freak variation of OG in this bunch, which is late-flowering, nutrient and weather sensitive and also prone to throwing bananas. It has a very weird metallic/onion smell going on on top of everything else, so I threw away every seed from this bud.

After that I got three bushy phenos, which I called Boom, Chem and Dog (well the easiest I could do). The Dog pheno was the biggest and most vigorous and it definitely fell on part of the father. This is her:

However in late flowering she became a wispy plant with very weak branches that started breaking off and had to be supported. She looked like that:

If you take away fat indica leaves she pretty much looks like Chemdawag '91, which is very weak plant (years of passing the clone in indoor environment did her in) and not a big producer... and I'm not talking about rip-offs in seed form. This pheno had zippy almost pure sativa high and great bubblegum expression, but around 30% of buds molded and yield was way too small for a plant that big.

Of all phenos I found the strongest and the most interesting to be Chem and Boom pheno, which are exactly in the middle of the way between the father and the mother. They are bushy, they branch out very well and they produce rock hard nuggets, which are not pest magnets. They are also exceptionally immune to mold and finish flowering in rain or high RH.

Boom pheno is slightly more on the AU side with similar, but more ragged colas and familiar lemoney/pissy smell. It produces very powerful soaring high that takes time to hit, but when it does it knocks you off after 10 or 20 minutes when THC level in blood peaks. It produces very confusing state of mind a kind of roller coaster high where you have very little control over your thoughts and is also very introspective. Very complex and long-lasting too up to 3,5 hrs easily. There's an indica side to it, but usually it kicks in after 2 hrs or later, so not really a relaxing kind of smoke. Here she is in late flowering:

Chem pheno on the other hand is more piney/peppery and fuely and is most indica-leaning pheno of all mentioned. She carries less THC and slightly more CBD I think, but provides an almost equal mix of relaxation and stimulation and really makes you close your eyelids after 2 hrs or so. She flowers into long very hard colas and pests stay away from her! She's the best producer too and very easy to trim due to excellent calyx-to-leaf ratio! My personal favourite. That's her:

In F2 obviously genes were shuffled, but it mostly affected terpene profiles. Due to bubblegum male used for inbreeding in early and middle flowering fruity tones are apparent more often, but they will still put on fuel and high-wise they're identical. They'll either lean on sativa or indica side, but it really is a balanced strain. Ok, now I feel like I really created a guide to UD here

 

[Tead]

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***KABOOOM***

Oh look... the sound of Tead's head exploding.
I'm gonna chew on this for a while. Plus, I'm gonna steal it and spread it.

 

[Tead]

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double post... edited to remove.... no doin so hot today!