Conradino23 Keeps On Keeping On Outdoor & Indoor Using LOS/High Brix Methods

lazyfish said:
I have never understood bag appeal. Pretty much judging a book by its cover.
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fox tails, poor trim, unfrosty, I once got complaints that my green wasn't vibrant enough. The guy wanted more of a mint green whereas mine was more of a yellowish green. It all adds up to meet or not meet someone's expectations and their willingness to pay more.
 
This is a big part of the difference in how we see it. I've come to believe that people like me are actually medical users. We're distinctly different than the new users. Sure, I like my herb to be tasty and colorful and dense, but that's not why I smoke it.

The recreational users don't get high in the same way we do. For instance, I never get the munchies. I don't giggle. I only catch myself being stupid every now and then. I feel more focused and more energetic.

And I'm never interested in drinking when I'm high. It's not a "party" drug for me.

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conradino23 said:
Living the life eh? :)



If they’re that biased it’s gonna be a difficult one. You could obviously show them some nice dense sativa nugs if you have them. Bag appeal is different in different strains, so it’s possible to start people on something that resembles indica. Don’t give up the fight :thumb:
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the reason why sativa got a bad rap here is the history of the onset of hydroponics/NL & Skunk1 happening at the same time circa 1980, before then there were mostly 'bush buds' (sativa of medium potency) available, of course if you were 'connected' you would be getting Thai, Mullumbimby Madness & other really good quality types, but the general population were getting average weed, then bang! hydroponics hit the scene along with NL & Skunk, these 2 types were consistent high quality buds, that in general had a very different appearance & odour to what were available before, as soon as people got their hands on those 2 most of the population dropped the 'bush bud' as a bad joke & anything offered to those people from then on resembling sativa were scorned as inferior weed compared to NL & Skunk.
also at the same time a myth began in the minds of 99% of smokers who were adopting the 'hydroponic weed', it was the mistaken belief that it was the artificial grow methods of using mainly rockwool, artificial nutes & HID lighting that were giving the weed its power, so for the last 3 decades most mainstream consumers believe/d this falsity.
so even though the mainstream suppliers have evolved to grow other types here they will almost always have that same general appearance of very chunky, pretty colored, pungent & resin coated bud form, another thing the main grower/suppliers do here that is different from US & other countries is that they never offer any information about what type they are actually growing to the smoking public, so its called in general 'hydro', the people here believe if its not hydro it will not make the grade, so when Joe Bloggs goes to score here they ask their supplier 'what have you got? hydro or bush buds?...thats it!
 
MrX said:
they ask their supplier 'what have you got? hydro or bush buds?...thats it
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:laughtwo: its so true! I have written tos exact words somewhere on this form talking about the scene here :thumb: I spent my years in the city shipping in ’bush buds’ :ganjamon:
 
Amy Gardner said:
:laughtwo: its so true! I have written tos exact words somewhere on this form talking about the scene here :thumb: I spent my years in the city shipping in ’bush buds’ :ganjamon:
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its soo fricken retarded how the main growers kept the population in the dark about what strains they were supplying? i guess it kept the 'mystique & magic' that surrounded 'hydro' so they could charge premium prices, logic behind their method maybe?
 
Skybound said:
fox tails, poor trim, unfrosty, I once got complaints that my green wasn't vibrant enough. The guy wanted more of a mint green whereas mine was more of a yellowish green. It all adds up to meet or not meet someone's expectations and their willingness to pay more.
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absolutely, ive seen buyers knock back an oz because it had 1/2 gram of 'shake' or loose bud pieces in the bag, stating they will only accept 100% solid bud! fussy to the extreme!
 
MrX said:
its soo fricken retatrded how the main growers kept the population in the dark about what strains they were supplying? i guess it kept the 'mystique & magic' that surrounded 'hydro' so they could charge premium prices, logic behind their method maybe?
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Over here it was all about which country was said to be where the buds were grown, ie Canada or Mexico. The Canada bud was called BC's, and the Mexi was Mexi Brick or just Brick. The BC's ranged from $275-$350 a zip and the Mexi was never more than $150. One ripped your face off and the other kept you from suffering the pothead version of dope sickness, lol. I personally like the Mexi shit b/c I have a low tolerance and always have to this day, but for everyone else it had little effects, lol. It was never known if the BC's were grown organically or hydro, but who knows.
 
Skybound said:
Over here it was all about which country was said to be where the buds were grown, ie Canada or Mexico. The Canada bud was called BC's, and the Mexi was Mexi Brick or just Brick. The BC's ranged from $275-$350 a zip and the Mexi was never more than $150. One ripped your face off and the other kept you from suffering the pothead version of dope sickness, lol. I personally like the Mexi shit b/c I have a low tolerance and always have to this day, but for everyone else it had little effects, lol. It was never known if the BC's were grown organically or hydro, but who knows.
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I lived and worked in the industry in BC around 97-2001.....I was mostly interested in small gulf Islands organic outdoor and the occasional indoor. That province was flooded with hydro though....I have a little lore...not sure if it is 100%, but I knew a grower that sold stock photos to high times. He told me that when the BC hype started (mainly from high times) it was to draw the attention of the DEA and take heat off of the American growers. Just keep saying BC bud, BC bud, BC bud....and they will start to focus on the border and forget about California. I lived in BC for about a decade in total and tbh wasn't that impressed with thier commercial crops at all. Compared to the Mexican brick....It really can't be compared :rofl:....the best produce I saw was coming out of Ontario Canada and Northern Cali. There was some really nice stuff in BC, but you had to know someone that knew someone to get your hands on it...otherwise it was large scale hydro crops.
 
I'm from a different generation... I basically started off with Dutch hydro skunks in the 90's. It took two years I think before I even tried first outdoor bud, but I loved it so much. This is when I really started getting into outdoor, but I had to wait a few more years to do it as I liked it here. To this day what I prefer is sun dep flower, however with good season you can sometimes match with the fall harvest. Yep I've also grown indoor a lot, but not my preferred style. I can definitely understand the advantage for people in a shitty climate though. Bag appeal didn't mean anything to me for more than a decade, I think it's mostly Cali/Colorado thing, but it's hit far home. I've noticed higher demand for appeal even here over the years. It's IG and FB that really push the picturesque sensation... well if I chose to look at OG and Blueberry crosses in different variations all day then I'd get mental about it too. Social media is a part of our lives now, but unfortunately it's a huge brainwashing network and you get a lot of collateral like cult of perfection and real life is just a little bit different than that :passitleft:
 
conradino23 said:
I'm from a different generation... I basically started off with Dutch hydro skunks in the 90's. It took two years I think before I even tried first outdoor bud, but I loved it so much. This is when I really started getting into outdoor, but I had to wait a few more years to do it as I liked it here. To this day what I prefer is sun dep flower, however with good season you can sometimes match with the fall harvest. Yep I've also grown indoor a lot, but not my preferred style. I can definitely understand the advantage for people in a shitty climate though. Bag appeal didn't mean anything to me for more than a decade, I think it's mostly Cali/Colorado thing, but it's hit far home. I've noticed higher demand for appeal even here over the years. It's IG and FB that really push the picturesque sensation... well if I chose to look at OG and Blueberry crosses in different variations all day then I'd get mental about it too. Social media is a part of our lives now, but unfortunately it's a huge brainwashing network and you get a lot of collateral like cult of perfection and real life is just a little bit different than that :passitleft:
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the equation with this pic is how it was around 1980 in Australia
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Indica = 20% THC
Sativa = 7% THC

this is why at the time the public looked upon Sativa as a poor quality bud, notwithstanding those fortunate few who had access to A grade Sativa types mentioned before

*by Indica referring to the dense bud types(Indica dominant) grown by major hydroponic producers of the day
**by Sativa referring to the majority of that type(outdoor Sativa) available to the general population, the % figures are accurate as were tested by government, figures were released publicly because of genuine medical concern that such a jump of public usage of 7% weed to +20% could lead to mass psychosis...country were entering unknown territory
 
anyway @conradino23 ive included that info for you as i see in other threads you have a deep interest in Cannabis history around the world, an unfortunate series of events led to Sativa being not recognized for its true potential in Australia during the period mentioned, personally the strongest weed ive ever had were fully seeded Sativa buds in 1978, 1 cone for a solid stone of 3hrs, 2 cones & it were a one way ticket to vomitsville, gear kicked you in the guts like a donkey, no one were ever immune from that second cone effect, even now i talk to people i know who remember that bud & a grimace of fear comes across their face as they recall, never seen anything like it since, but i havnt had a proper pure Indica or Sativa in well over a decade, preferring messing around with polhybrids etc now, cheers man and good luck with your grows
 
Hiya Con! :ciao: hope all things are going well for you and the herb is good! How goes it with all the business setup?

Also, the link in your sig to the organic section of the forum is broken :nomo: ... they musta changed the page address.

:Namaste:
 
neikodog said:
Just hand them a pre-roll and don't say anything. You'll get their true feelings then.
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I was getting ready to type that....lol
 
MrX said:
the equation with this pic is how it was around 1980 in Australia
indsat.png
Indica = 20% THC
Sativa = 7% THC

this is why at the time the public looked upon Sativa as a poor quality bud, notwithstanding those fortunate few who had access to A grade Sativa types mentioned before

*by Indica referring to the dense bud types(Indica dominant) grown by major hydroponic producers of the day
**by Sativa referring to the majority of that type(outdoor Sativa) available to the general population, the % figures are accurate as were tested by government, figures were released publicly because of genuine medical concern that such a jump of public usage of 7% weed to +20% could lead to mass psychosis...country were entering unknown territory
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I get it, man. People think that more potent bud will always get them higher, but it's not true. It's not called relative potency for nothing :)

MrX said:
anyway @conradino23 ive included that info for you as i see in other threads you have a deep interest in Cannabis history around the world, an unfortunate series of events led to Sativa being not recognized for its true potential in Australia during the period mentioned, personally the strongest weed ive ever had were fully seeded Sativa buds in 1978, 1 cone for a solid stone of 3hrs, 2 cones & it were a one way ticket to vomitsville, gear kicked you in the guts like a donkey, no one were ever immune from that second cone effect, even now i talk to people i know who remember that bud & a grimace of fear comes across their face as they recall, never seen anything like it since, but i havnt had a proper pure Indica or Sativa in well over a decade, preferring messing around with polhybrids etc now, cheers man and good luck with your grows
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I think everybody remembers their first ugly bud, that was unusually spacey and psychedelic. That's how you learn that looks are not that important.

Amy Gardner said:
Hiya Con! :ciao: hope all things are going well for you and the herb is good! How goes it with all the business setup?

Also, the link in your sig to the organic section of the forum is broken :nomo: ... they musta changed the page address.

:Namaste:
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We're in business officially. We've been registered in Swiss Chamber of Commerce this week. I'll be setting up mother room next month. I chose some nice QBs from HLG for that. We're gonna throw some solar panels on the roof too. It's gonna be a lot of work in the beginning. We need to set up a lab, start working on logo, website, marketing, social media presence etc., but I'm not complaining :)

I'll check the signature.

Van Stank said:
I was getting ready to type that....lol
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That seems to be the way to do it :thumb:
 
conradino23 said:
We're in business officially. We've been registered in Swiss Chamber of Commerce this week. I'll be setting up mother room next month. I chose some nice QBs from HLG for that. We're gonna throw some solar panels on the roof too. It's gonna be a lot of work in the beginning. We need to set up a lab, start working on logo, website, marketing, social media presence etc., but I'm not complaining :)
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Fantastic! Great chapter to be embarking on :thumb:
 
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