Conradino23 Keeps On Keeping On Outdoor & Indoor Using LOS/High Brix Methods

How much water do you set per plant a day? Every day or you give them a break? I don’t like to keep the soil wet all the time even in bloom, not that great for sugar production. I just water more frequently. Some plants are not that water friendly though... like Bubbas for example :) They’ll refuse to take big amounts of water. Just now I’ve finished saturating the pots over 2 days giving small amounts in the morning and in the evening. Well they seem to be back on track, so now I can start finishing them dry.
It's funny how different our Bubba's are. Mine is a pig! I run it in a 10 gallon pot and she's guzzling 1.5 gallons every 3 days and the pot is so light at the 3rd day I feel it would wilt if I waited any longer. She's 6 weeks into flower and is taking heavy feedings (2.5 ml/gallon of soil) and looks about as good as I could want.
 
It's funny how different our Bubba's are. Mine is a pig! I run it in a 10 gallon pot and she's guzzling 1.5 gallons every 3 days and the pot is so light at the 3rd day I feel it would wilt if I waited any longer. She's 6 weeks into flower and is taking heavy feedings (2.5 ml/gallon of soil) and looks about as good as I could want.
Yes, shes a pig, but she stops drinking very abruptly just before she starts turning colors. Kind of nice feature to tell when she's done. ;)
 
It's funny how different our Bubba's are. Mine is a pig! I run it in a 10 gallon pot and she's guzzling 1.5 gallons every 3 days and the pot is so light at the 3rd day I feel it would wilt if I waited any longer. She's 6 weeks into flower and is taking heavy feedings (2.5 ml/gallon of soil) and looks about as good as I could want.

Mine only started drinking a bit more recently, but it's still not a lot in comparison to other plants... but I might've underwatered at one point, it's just really hard to tell with them!

Yes, shes a pig, but she stops drinking very abruptly just before she starts turning colors. Kind of nice feature to tell when she's done. ;)

So they even stop drinking in the end... well they should do well then without water in the last couple of days. I really doubt I'm gonna get any colours in these temps though.
 
Mine only started drinking a bit more recently, but it's still not a lot in comparison to other plants... but I might've underwatered at one point, it's just really hard to tell with them!



So they even stop drinking in the end... well they should do well then without water in the last couple of days. I really doubt I'm gonna get any colours in these temps though.
Yes, it's a temperature thing for BH. My flower room gets down to the high 60s at nighttime, if not lower occasionally. The Early Bubba Hash I ran that turned black and yellow was hitting the high 50s at night. Lovely color, but it slowed the plant down a bit. The smell ramped up though.
 
Here it’s the opposite, I can’t lower the temps enough in the night, but during the day they can swing to 30C and above. I think I start seeing the limit for both Bubbas at around 29C, which is not unusual. I’ve been analysing these burnt leaves and they both showed it at the same time after 4-5 days of 32-33C and RH of around 49-52. It just happened overnight and seems to be vapour pressure deficit related... too low RH at too high temperature.
 
Hey man? Have you found a new place yet?
 
A few pics of Purple Dog for you. I think I finally caught the structure and the shape of buds. She's smelling of lime and chocolate and no new nanners were found!











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Hey man? Have you found a new place yet?
I don't know when he'll see this as he's only on sporadically, but I chatted with him a while last night. He's got a place for the time being, but he's still looking around.
A few pics of Purple Dog for you. I think I finally caught the structure and the shape of buds. She's smelling of lime and chocolate and no new nanners were found!











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Lime and chocolate. That's an interesting combo.

Tri pointed buds. That's weird. Did you have anything that caused that? I've never seen that with my Malawi or crosses except for the last run when it got a bunch of wind damage on the tops as it started to flower.

Looking excellent!
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No I don't think it's a defect, it seems purely genetic to me. The calyxes grow into beads and then they expand upwards where they meet. They look a bit like horns. Usually it's not enough to grow 10-20 plants if you wanna see all the expressions. Probably it's a rare one, but I'm sure that if you popped enough seeds you'd find it eventually. This one seems very Malawi dominated, but the smell definitely resembles UD.
 
I’m getting quite sure it’s my HB soil pushing the sweet terpenes. I’m comparing now my UD I’ve been growing outdoor for a few years now and this plant just went sick level sweet before the fuel caught in... I actually tried to fight it before, but anything I do just makes stuff sweeter :laugh:

How are the elite cuts doing? Any experiments with custom soil and ferts?
 
I’m getting quite sure it’s my HB soil pushing the sweet terpenes. I’m comparing now my UD I’ve been growing outdoor for a few years now and this plant just went sick level sweet before the fuel caught in... I actually tried to fight it before, but anything I do just makes stuff sweeter :laugh:

How are the elite cuts doing? Any experiments with custom soil and ferts?

The brix brings out the sweet in my grows too. :thumb: Even ones that are nasty smelling get rounder and less pointed, more so nearer the end of flower.

It's really been a challenge getting the clones right, where it's almost a foregone conclusion with seeds if you don't mess up too badly. So custom mixes have helped me with elites, but I'm really still working my way through. Many cuts are Ca, Mg or P/K pigs, so stocking up the medium with ratios better suited to the cultivar helps keep the amount of feeds lower. I haven't done an A/B grow yet, but probably will soon. Still working through a few recipes. All good fun and learning, and at least I know what I'm getting at the end lol hopefully.
 
Sounds perfect, man. I've been slightly tweaking my programme adding this and that in small amounts, but I still think the soil you work with is the key. But indoor I've noticed you need something for the transition from veg to flowering, cause otherwise the Brix start dropping and you quickly start playing a catch-up game... anyway once I smoke the flowers from this run I'm gonna know if I'm going in the right direction .
 
That lines up with my experience too. I do feed some (gasp) synthetics at transition (and flower), where Veg is almost exclusively organic feed. With the clones also, in addition to the nutes, the size of the pot, and the structure of the soil also matters hugely upon the cultivar, to be able to water in on a schedule that will allow you get the most from it. Many of these adjustments have some push-pull elements to them - Oxygen ratios go up with structure, but so does the need for watering.

Custom soil for ECSD is currently higher mineral, higher calcium, higher magnesium, higher N, standard K, standard P, higher porosity, smaller pot/soil. If I have it, I'll use Azos too to fix N as she's got a hunger for it up to 30 days in flower. She'll want more K, but it's better to control with adds imo. After 30 days flower, she'll want more P/K so I'll taper N and ramp P/K. It sounds like a lot of attention, but it's really just slight tweaks on the standard recipe of soil/coco/perlite/mineral, and my feeds go in almost as usual. Not too bad for a cut that is acknowledged to be among the hardest to grow successfully. Medium is as important as environment imo.

In the end, the slight synth feeds have made sure deficiencies didn't limit production of oils and terps in the plants, where feeding non-ionic organics left them flatter. Effect, smell, flavor & potency all improved with the synths versus without - on the clones. Seeds as a whole are not nearly as hungry, and I don't feed them the same. If I can find a 100% organic way that isn't wasteful (huge pots) to get the clones finished right I would try it. So far I'm still working on it, and it's been a couple of years now. :)
 
Yeah although I'm mostly organic I'm not really against using synthetics if it's done in moderation especially when you really know what you're doing and don't create any hazard... I used a bit of hydrogen peroxide lately for gnats, which effectively takes organic label off my back :laugh:

I know that cuts raised and propagated in hydro often struggle in organic soil where salts are unavailable. This is something that High Brix crowd has fight with all the time. Some seed lines will be similar with plants very difficult to please when they're supposed to be happy af.

I myself stick to low N ad low K in soil and also prefer to regulate it with inputs if it's necessary. It improves the health of the plant, resilience to pests, wind, heavy rain and indoor it also lets you forget about the stakes. Easier to steer the plant into HB territory too. Ca/Mg are both crucial, proper ratio and replenishing over time are half of your success. This run I've been trying MSM as an extra source of sulphur in late flowering to improve/change the taste and I'm very curious of the results.

Did you get your buds tested or this is just your own judgement? I'd definitely do some testing if it was possible to do it here :)
 
IDK why soil growers are so heebed out about synth nutes. The Brix Kit has plenty of synth amendments in there and more is added every other watering. When I switch to "soil", I intend to use something similar to the kit. I also intend to veg in rockwool in a solo cup till they're about a foot tall before putting them into the soil. I once went from rockwool into potted soil and it transitioned well.

I suggest upping your sulfur at the end of bloom with Epsom, the extra Mag will go well with making carbs and stimulating enzymes. I run my sulfur about as high as cal and the smoke is so sweet as a result.
 
Mg and K deficiency I think got me into a bit of heat stress with Bubbas. I’m trying to focus a bit more on sulphur this time to see how much that’ll change the smell and the taste. I’m actually thinking about getting some synthetic support, cause it’s hard to get a few chemicals in the right concentration naturally and you just can’t fight genetics... this’ll probably be added to the next run.
 
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