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ThirdUncle
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Bad luck dude heart breaking , best to cut her back to the green tips/shots ,she will recover from there ,your better of to cut them back anyways , best of luck , take care & peace to all
you can bring them back if you want to put in the time and work.
i would do mostly the same but a bit more involved. i've brought them back before.
first remove all the dead stuff. cut it back to green. lose at least third or more of the plant. next pull the plant from the bucket. cut the bottom third of the roots off. then cut the outside edge of the rootball off. repot the plant in good fresh media, make sure it is packed all around the plant. feed it at veg levels and use veg light levels and day/night cycle.
it'll take a bit, but it will regenerate if it hasn't gone past the tipping point.
ThirdUncle
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it's the same way to fix a root bound plant, regenerate for monster cropping, or revive long standing mother plants.
we used to leave mother plants under weak t5s for months on end, and we also monster cropped. that's how we'd bring them back. i've also had plants get root bound waiting for room in the flower space. works every time, and usually results in a literal monster plant.
"all the fading leaves are no ash."?
You can probably fix the plant but it will take work and then time waiting to see if it works. The damage was done when the temperatures went up to 50C which is 122F for us over here. Temperatures like that for 3 hours then the stems and the vascular tissue itself has probably been damaged. Follow the suggestions others are giving. Cut off all the damaged leaves and the stems they were on. The plant should look like just green leaves and healthy looking stems.
I had so many clones from 3 different strains and no room in the flowering tent so I turned them into lab-rats. I deliberately did something similar last summer and fall. I would not water these plants until they were severely wilted. Then I watered and brought them back and then held back on water again. I kept repeating for a couple of months until I wanted to see what it took to get them to show that they properly recovered and how long it took.
Follow the suggestion @ThirdUncle mentioned in msg #26 and what @bluter brings up in msgs #27 .
If you do not transplant then the plants might only show small leaves and weak stems for here on out and never fully recover. Even if transplanted but not root pruned the plants most likely will not grow properly. In the end I found it easiest to take cuttings of any healthy looking new growth and then try to get them to root for new clones. And then I tossed all the older and damaged "mother" plants.
So yes, you can probably fix the plants but you might be better off by starting over with new seeds even if they are "bag seed" from some weed you already bought.
that's ash bro ..
edit : maybe he meant hasbro. used get a lot of good stuff from hasbro as a kid.
I was trying to relate the "ash" part of the msgs to something like "toast". As in, the leaves are toast. The whole plant might be toast but it will take some effort and a bit of time to see if they recover first.that's ash bro ..
edit : maybe he meant hasbro. used get a lot of good stuff from hasbro as a kid.
I reckon I could grow 1lb of auto bud before that plant recovers
maybe. but it would still be auto quality ..I reckon I could grow 1lb of auto bud before that plant recovers
i could turn it into several if the environment is set up decent.
I'd say the difference between auto/photo is negligible these days bluter, def worth any sacrifice for 4+ harvests /year
ThirdUncle
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YEah like @SmokingWings said taking cuttings might be a good idea 
i understand where you are coming from as a home grower. they do fill a needed niche in that industry. i simply feel it could be better served. most auto growers chose them as a solution for quick, not better.
i come from the med side though i've been forced into home grow. even so, i still lean to photos. i lose the quick but gain more control over the grow, and make up for shorter grow times with increased production i wouldn't get from autos.
a lot of autos don't carry the same things i'm looking for in a med plant. in a few instances it's not viable to grow femmed photos either, the terp and cannabinoid profile shows up best in regs.
frankly regs is where we probably need to get back to. there is increasing concern in the med side over where the entire gene pool is headed.
the issue with autos centers around the destruction of the holistic medicinal land race and natural gene pool.
edit : also a monster crop produces insane amounts if you've ever done it. far outstrips the original run. that's a non starter in auto for obvious reasons.
Totally get what you're saying too dude
Totally get what you're saying too dude
you are a deeply respected member of the community and i do get where you are growing from.
i have no disrespect towards those who grow autos and have done it myself. there are advantages to auto home grows - they can use fewer inputs, resulting in cheaper seedling to bud, do turn over faster resulting more harvests per yr.
i just have different goals mostly. also even under the plant number restrictions i have, i've been able to take grow holidays, i took an entire yr off, and mostly can provide needs growing about 6 - 8 months of a calendar yr. i grow for more than myself.
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Sorry boy can I addrothis thread. I’m gonna . I my experience they rally finish as stated . They are sold as a quicker harvest but I’ve not found that to b the case . Admittedly I have little experience growing as I’ve oily done autos . 9 and 9 that went over by at least 6 weeks . I’ve switched to photos , bigger yield’s. Same amount of work and the thc levels Arnt quite there. That’s my humble opinion for what it’s worth.
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I get it raise pots . Actually n u can’t c this but the pots are inverted bout 1 inch underneath. Thanks though. Sharing is caring 
. You might get a dozen boys I’m leaving them in veg forever . Do u no any good spells 
. Cuttings , that’s the way forward . Cali seeds too expensive. . 50£ a seed . F T .
. You might get a dozen boys I’m leaving them in veg forever . Do u no any good spells . Cuttings , that’s the way forward . Cali seeds too expensive. . 50£ a seed . F T .- Thread starter
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Question people as u no I’m brand new to this high octane sport , but I thought autos are generally lower harvest mount . Can u get he Sam drywaight as a photo . . ? . 4 harvests verses two a year seems good on paper . I’ve been leftovers beloved 15/20 oz photo l10 ish of autos in need the max fast as possible.
Overall, photos will give a bigger harvest because they veg for longer so generally bigger plants, plenty of time for LST, super-cropping etc; also tend to flower longer so allegedly better terps/potency but I'm not so sure
However, in the same space 9x autos in a SoG will pretty much match the yield, maybe more in much less time
For me it comes down to having limited space so I get the best returns from perpetual autos or photo clone SoG
However, in the same space 9x autos in a SoG will pretty much match the yield, maybe more in much less time
For me it comes down to having limited space so I get the best returns from perpetual autos or photo clone SoG