Actually, I use papers called Pure Hemp papers Raziel. Same size as a zig zag and made of hemp. Alot cheaper by the case than Zig Zags too. I've tried some of the Raw and it seemed harsh to me. Or it could just be the larger joint gives me a bigger hit and makes me cough more. I have acouple packs in the drawer of them. And a shit pot of cyclone cones. A friend closed down a head shop and I got afew goodies they had left, papers and a ton of peices of glass pipes I have no idea what they are for. I'm a old dog and don't give up my ways much. I have tried afew kinds of concentrates, but 45 years of cigerettes kind of ruined that. But you never know, I might give it a try if I can find a sample,, or someone who makes some. Thx Keepem Green