Colombian Gold Grow: Come Learn With Me How To Produce Your Own Seeds!

[beez0404]

I've grown Platinum Cookies and Thin Mints both of which were very good. But I have a hankering to grow just the plain old GSC this time.

 

[Pennywise]

Forum Cut is an awesome cut.

 

[beez0404]

I don't even know what that means but it sounds expensive.

 

[beez0404]

For all those who "entered" a guess on the number of seeds on three specific buds on the Colombian Gold plant, I will be cutting those three buds off tomorrow and busting them up searching for seeds. I will post the total tomorrow. If you were the closest without going over do be sure to let me know.

 

[Pennywise]

the Forum cut is one of the early cuts of GSC

 

[beez0404]

Where does one find such a thing?

 

[Pennywise]

Archive seeds would be your best bet, remember the GSC is clone only so the only seeds are S1's or hybrids.

 

[beez0404]

Tonight I brought out the Quarter Pounder auto plant for an inspection. I wanted to see if any more/new female pollen sacks had appeared and if any were growing high up on the branches. The answer to the first part was yes. There are some new pollen sacks. Not a ton but a few more and every one helps. And to answer the second part of the question I am not seeing any pollen sacks in any of the bud sites with pistils other then the one I spotted the other day. It's a very small bud with only a handful of pistils. I snapped a picture of the bottom portion of one of the branches. Being so low on the plant makes it tough to harvest from these. I also have a concern about the "look" of a lot of the pollen sacks. We'll have to see how it goes. I might sound like I'm whining, but just trying to give as accurate a description of what's going on as I can.

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• beez0404
• Dec 19, 2018

We're really needing these pollen sacks to start opening and giving us pollen in a week to 10 days although I suspect the pollen sacks may not wait. I have my mirror all cleaned up, and my tweezers too just in case.

The other three autos I am wanting to cross pollinate with QP pollen are at varying stages. The Stardawg auto is the oldest......sprouted 10 days after the Quarter Pounder. She is SO ready to be pollinated. Next oldest is the Tangerine Dream auto from our newest 420 Magazine sponsor Barney's Farm. Having sprouted 7 days after the Stardawg she will be prime for pollination in about a week. She has enough pistils now that I could make some seeds. And Finally is Gorilla Glue auto from Fast Buds through @SeedsMan . I had to germinate a second seed to get a Gorilla Glue to sprout. So it's just a tad late. It began showing the first sign of pistils yesterday. So for her I would most likely need to store some pollen and keep it till she is ready.

Which brings us back to the Quarter Pounder plant and her pollen sacks. When reversing parts of a plant to get it to produce the female pollen sacks you're obviously messing with Mother Nature. Sometimes she doesn't mind so much and the pollen sacks are normal, open like they should, and produce good, viable pollen leading to beautiful seeds. Other times the stress to reverse the plant ticks off Mother Nature. A couple times I've had normal looking pollen sacks appear and they sat there and sat there and sat there and did nothing. Never opened or delivered any pollen.

BUT........let's be positive and say we're able to harvest some pollen and it's good stuff. My plant is to select enough bud sites on each plant to produce approximately 75-100 seeds from each plant.........5-6 nice buds total per plant. Three to four hundred reversed auto flower seeds and auto flower crosses. I for one am very excited to introduce the cross of the Quarter Pounder auto X Stardawg auto to be known in the future as The Dog Pound

 

[InTheShed]

Can you cut a sheet of plexiglass to fit under those to catch whatever falls? Notched for the main stem and such...

 

[beez0404]

In my experience pollen sacks open early in the morning and if there is not breeze or anything jarring the plant the pollen stays inside pretty good. I will gently remove the plant each morning once she shows the signs she is getting ready to start pollination. With my magnified visor I look for pollen sacks that had opened the night before. I position the mirror underneath that pollen sack and gently tap it with my tweezers causing the pollen to fall onto the mirror. I'll go from open pollen sack to open pollen sack tapping on them and them removing them once they give up their pollen. I toss the expended ones into a tiny vial and save them. Once I collect all the pollen I can that morning/day I pick which buds to pollinate. I do that and then hang an identifying tag of some sort right below the bud just pollinated so I can keep track of it as the plant gets larger. At the very end when there is no more pollen to be collected from the plant and I still need more I take out the vial with the "used up" pollen sacks. I dump these into a Ziploc bag, zip it close as much as possible and shake the heck out of it. Open it up and start dipping buds inside the bag and swishing them around. You likely won't see any pollen but there is always a little there.

Anyway, always collect your pollen in the morning.

 

[InTheShed]

I could never manage to move any part of the plant without the pollen falling at the slightest touch. When you say morning do you mean just after lights on?

 

[beez0404]

Can you cut a sheet of plexiglass to fit under those to catch whatever falls? Notched for the main stem and such.

That sounds like it could work well but maybe something to be used when you're breeding on a larger scale. A couple pieces of aluminum foil just set down under the buds will work to catch falling pollen.

Important: I keep forgetting to mention this. When breeding for seeds the plant producing the pollen has to be considered to be expendable. Now of course when I say that I am referring mainly to a male plant being used for breeding. When the male starts to open his pollen sacks I remove probably 85% of the leaves from the plant leaving just the leaves on the very top of the plant. I want a clear area to collect the pollen. It is such a pain to try to hold a hand mirror in one hand, tweezers in the other, and with no free hand try to move leaves out of the way to get the mirror to the next open pollen sack. You have to make sure when you're moving it the leave isn't brushing the already collected pollen off your mirror as you're concentrating on getting more. The male plant will survive perfectly fine for the 3-7 days you're collecting pollen. On this QP auto I will remove every single leave off of the treated branches giving myself a clean work area among those three small branches.

 

[beez0404]

When you say morning do you mean just after lights on?

Yes, right at lights on. And keep in mind that the QP plant is in a small homemade grow area by itself. The moving involved will be me turning the plant around to get at the parts in the back. And yes you can lose some pollen when moving the plant....it happens.

 

[beez0404]

I finished my weekly honey do list very early this week. It's pouring down rain outside so my choices are wrap Christmas presents (BLAH) or cut off the three buds with seeds, break them up, and count how many seeds they contain to determine the winner. I think so too. I'll be back once I've got a count.

 

[Stirstick]

Now I gotta look back and see what I said lol

 

[Pennywise]

That sounds like it could work well but maybe something to be used when you're breeding on a larger scale. A couple pieces of aluminum foil just set down under the buds will work to catch falling pollen.

Important: I keep forgetting to mention this. When breeding for seeds the plant producing the pollen has to be considered to be expendable. Now of course when I say that I am referring mainly to a male plant being used for breeding. When the male starts to open his pollen sacks I remove probably 85% of the leaves from the plant leaving just the leaves on the very top of the plant. I want a clear area to collect the pollen. It is such a pain to try to hold a hand mirror in one hand, tweezers in the other, and with no free hand try to move leaves out of the way to get the mirror to the next open pollen sack. You have to make sure when you're moving it the leave isn't brushing the already collected pollen off your mirror as you're concentrating on getting more. The male plant will survive perfectly fine for the 3-7 days you're collecting pollen. On this QP auto I will remove every single leave off of the treated branches giving myself a clean work area among those three small branches.

That's sound advice for sure!

 

[Dutchman1990]

168! Is my guess

Just so I have reference lol

 

[Amy Gardner]

I would smoke it

Got room to grow one?

I don't even know what that means but it sounds expensive.

I thought that too...

You have to make sure when you're moving it the leave isn't brushing the already collected pollen off your mirror as you're concentrating on getting more.

Oh - that’s a good tip! I can imagine that moment being rather disastrous. One flick of a fan leaf and poof! Pollen gone !

Just so I have reference lol

Thanks Dutch! Now I have a quick jump back to what I said!

Phew it was back on page 54! Aaaages ago

172

 

[Pennywise]

Also 1 flick of a fan leaf and half your tent is pollinated!

 

[beez0404]

Okay here we go. I cut off the three buds to be broken up in search of seeds. I will be counting seeds that look as though they will germinate. No white seeds, or green seeds will be counted. To keep everything on the up and up and to protect me from potential seed thieves I have brought in my two super scary guard dogs.

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• beez0404
• Dec 20, 2018
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