Cola Monster's Silver Haze and Super Grape Ape Hydro Grow

[Cola Monster]

that seems like an EXTREMELY long pre-flowering phase brother! and not even to see one little calyx or pistil forming anywhere is weird.. may i offer a suggestion of trying to cut back on an hour - hour and half to say.. 11-13 or 10.5-12.5.. and once it starts flowering you could bring it back to 12-12... just a thought to try and help boost them into their flowering phase..
thats got me stumped too bro. im presuming you are on the flowering juice by now too yeah?? ive read that too much N lagging in the soil from the veg stage can delay or prevent flowering but i doubt that would be the case for you ma man!
another thing you could try is a bit of GENTLE super-cropping around the grow tips to stimulate some action in those areas.. and yeah, i know that sound a bit depraved LOL
sorry i couldnt offer anything better brother.. let me know if you suss it out.. when they start to flower too matey!

take it easy CM /|\

Well since I'm completely lost here I'll try changing the lighting cycles around like you mentioned to see if that induces flowering. And as far as the nutes go they've all been flushed more then once and am now running a mild bloom & fertilizer solution as usual but with no buds showing and am ready to toss the whole damn crop if not popping soon. Boy will that hurt the ol' pocket book having to start over from square one but is what it is and nothing I can do to prevent. Like Frankie says "That's Life"! ~Peace~

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Thanks for the knowledge mate & I'll attempt to put it to good use. ttyl!

 

[Alkhemist]

Well since I'm completely lost here I'll try changing the lighting cycles around like you mentioned to see if that induces flowering. And as far as the nutes go they've all been flushed more then once and am now running a mild bloom & fertilizer solution as usual but with no buds showing and am ready to toss the whole damn crop if not popping soon. Boy will that hurt the ol' pocket book having to start over from square one but is what it is and nothing I can do to prevent. Like Frankie says "That's Life"! ~Peace~

Thanks for the knowledge mate & I'll attempt to put it to good use. ttyl!

anything i can do to help in any way brother!
i feel for your situation and understand completely.. time and money invested in something like this.. and not seeing any progress or even a possibility of no return at all??! not good at all.
i sure hope that declining light cycle helps bro... im gonna be doing it this grow anyways.. but only by half an hour every week.. i figured you have been in flower for 3+weeks so to cut it back by 3x30mins=1.5 hours.
i have it under good authority that a bit of gentle super cropping of the growth tip area may help too mate, although i have never done this before myself so i cant say for sure it will help.

all the best bro!

 

[Cola Monster]

Yo Alk.! Did I mention that the G.D.P. x AK-47 I threw in with my Super Grape Apes is from the same crop as the plants not flowering but is budding just fine under the 1000 watt lights at day 25? A little food for thought while I try to figure this problem out and block off any & all light leaks coming into the room as that may be the culprit but really don't see how since it's set up the same as my last grow.
Your little ones are looking good so far and see you've got them topped & tied down already and I've never done before but might give it a shot with my next crop to see if I get some bushier plants. Back to mixing up the ol' witches brew to water my girls which is a never ending job with three separate gardens running at once. ttyl mate! ~Peace~

 

[Vick074]

That's really weird that you're 3 weeks in with no signs..
a faulty or mis programmed timer, and bad light leaks aside.
Alk's suggestions of cutting back the current light schedule sounds like a good idea.
I'd even suggest putting them in the dark for 24-48 hours first.
Will save you some juice,
And then they'll know what's up..

I'm also diminishing at 1/2 hour per week or so since flip until I'm at 10/14.
It's worked really well for me in the past.

 

[Vick074]

After some more thought,
I'd be triple checking those light timer's, or replacing them with something else temporarily.
3 weeks?
no hairs yet?
whoa.

just saying, that's kinda weird..

 

[Cola Monster]

That's really weird that you're 3 weeks in with no signs..
a faulty or mis programmed timer, and bad light leaks aside.
Alk's suggestions of cutting back the current light schedule sounds like a good idea.
I'd even suggest putting them in the dark for 24-48 hours first.
Will save you some juice,
And then they'll know what's up..

I'm also diminishing at 1/2 hour per week or so since flip until I'm at 10/14.
It's worked really well for me in the past.

Hey Vick! How's it going sir? And yeah this is a bit weird being everything's functioning properly with all the light cycles coming on & off as should be and I see first hand since I'm up all night taking care of business but will block off any minor leaks as I said then try throwing them into dark for a spell if not seeing anything in the next couple days. I see hermie written all over this grow & might be better off abandoning it then starting fresh with the Grape Ape clones I have ready to go. It's a thinker!
Thanks for chiming in as I'll accept any & all advice that sounds feasible as well as logical. ttyl! ~Peace~

 

[Vick074]

I know you run a tight ship as far as room conditions go,
Everything is absolutely immaculate.
so none of that could be the cause of the late spirt.
Maybe hold out for a few more days like you said,
no change by then?
then put them down for a nice nap..
And if they don't awake with yawning pistols?
Then you might have discovered a magical strain that needs plenty of therapy and TLC.
enter stage left...
Grape Ape pinch hitters stretching in the veg room..

 

[Cola Monster]

I know you run a tight ship as far as room conditions go,
Everything is absolutely immaculate.
so none of that could be the cause of the late spirt.
Maybe hold out for a few more days like you said,
no change by then?
then put them down for a nice nap..
And if they don't awake with yawning pistols?
Then you might have discovered a magical strain that needs plenty of therapy and TLC.
enter stage left...
Grape Ape pinch hitters stretching in the veg room..

That's hilarious being I'm a ex-jock plus an old school cartoon fan to Vick! Thanks, I needed that right about now as well as a puff or two to calm me down.
And as far as a magical strain goes well whoever crossed it (which would be me) should be shot if this is what it does but has to be a fluke in my thinking since the last crop worked out just fine. Who knows and we'll find out together I guess! ~Peace~

 

[KingJohnC]

thank you for the video updates.

 

[Sphnx]

What's up Cola? I have that same Co2 Gen in the room. You know about the if you see yellow or orange flames instead of the blue its pumping carbon monoxide into your room. Caused by fan blowing on the open vent.

Crazy shit, didn't know that when I bought it. Legit setup my friend! +reps!

 

[Cola Monster]

What's up Cola? I have that same Co2 Gen in the room. You know about the if you see yellow or orange flames instead of the blue its pumping carbon monoxide into your room. Caused by fan blowing on the open vent.

Crazy shit, didn't know that when I bought it. Legit setup my friend! +reps!

Hey Sphnx! Thanks much & yeah I know all about the CO2 thing and why I keep mine hung up as high as I can then have a fan down below blowing it towards my plants but not on the generator vent itself. Thanks again for the reps. sir & have a good one! ~Peace~

 

[Cola Monster]

Some Stevie Ray Vaughn & my girls at day 51 of flowering & day 2 of flushing. Enjoy!

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[BudTester420]

Damn bro those ladies are looking fine as hell, super healthy and perky! Any chance you could take a picture of the room and plants that I could use as a wallpaper for my tablet?

 

[Vick074]

Just Beautiful CM!!!!


So have the other ladies started to show yet?

 

[Cola Monster]

Just Beautiful CM!!!!


So have the other ladies started to show yet?

Hey Vick! No signs yet but I got all the minor light leaks blocked and am hoping for the best. It might take a few days & if not seeing anything soon am going to toss them into my other flowering room after harvesting my Grape Apes here in a week or so.

Some updated shots of my soil grown Grand Daddy Purple x AK/47 at 31 days which is on a strict feeding regiment of General Organics BioThrive Bloom 2-4-4, Bio Bud Bloom Booster 0.5-0.1-1, plus a wetting agent called SM-90 & a 1/2 dose of Fox Farm fertilizer once a week. ~Peace~

 

[Vick074]

Dude!!!!
31 days!??
I can't believe how you get them to stack so early on.
Explosions of pistols!
Beautiful photos too mate.

I gotta pick you're brain a bit..

And does that SM-90 really work that well in soil and Coco?
I've seen it in the stores, and have always wondered about wetting agents..

 

[Alkhemist]

you got them grand purps x ak's down Cm! looking beautiful at only halfway im guessing?? that flood and drain table has a HEAP of potential brother.. i can really see that pumping a veritable ocean of green... 1k-1500 cuttings all main colas at 1-2 foot tall MAX, 1-2 ounces per cutting.. cracking 2gpw like a boss ;]

hope you get some fat calyx's bursting with silvery white pistils soon on your other 'ladies' mate! i got my fingers and toes crossed for ya /|\

take care CM, keeping an ear open for news of your other lagging gurls. peace

 

[Cola Monster]

you got them grand purps x ak's down Cm! looking beautiful at only halfway im guessing?? that flood and drain table has a HEAP of potential brother.. i can really see that pumping a veritable ocean of green... 1k-1500 cuttings all main colas at 1-2 foot tall MAX, 1-2 ounces per cutting.. cracking 2gpw like a boss ;]

hope you get some fat calyx's bursting with silvery white pistils soon on your other 'ladies' mate! i got my fingers and toes crossed for ya /|\

take care CM, keeping an ear open for news of your other lagging gurls. peace

What's up Alk? Hope all is well & yeah that G.D.P. x AK-47 strain I created is looking pretty sweet as of right now & at only half way thru flowering of what I'm figuring to be around a 65 day or so finish time. It's the first time I've ever grown this strain in this setting so will have to keep a close eye on it so I know the perfect to pluck the girl & record it's findings for future reference. I dig science and chemistry and especially when it comes to growing a tree.
A final video for this Silver Haze & Super Grape Ape grow along with a little Pink Floyd playing yet another of my favorite tunes in the background & will post a final show of the G.D.P. x AK-47 strain when she's ready for harvest in a few more weeks. Enjoy & ttyl! ~Peace~

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P.S. I've thought about filling my large 4'x8' tray with hydrotron rocks then planting a mess load of ladies and cola them all up to where I'd have five hundred or so kickass buds but never followed thru thinking it might be to much trouble if having something go wrong with some of the plants. Maybe someday!

 

[Sphnx]

Amazing! looks phenomenal!

 

[Cola Monster]

Some final photos of my Super Grapes Ape colas before harvesting tomorrow. ~Peace~