Closet Scrog Grow

Re: PPP Clone, BPN, Soil Tent Grow!

well i just picked up (4) 10'' Pots today, a 1-5 gal. Air pump, clear hose, and an air stone. The pots look like they will do the job. i bought the air pump and stone to keep my nutrient resivoir aerated.

QUESTION ABOUT FEEDING- do i feed every day? or just when it says to on the feeding schedule? i read some where you only feed it on every other water. what is the proper way to feed my plants?
 
Re: PPP Clone, BPN, Soil Tent Grow!

ilikebike said:
well i just picked up (4) 10'' Pots today, a 1-5 gal. Air pump, clear hose, and an air stone. The pots look like they will do the job. i bought the air pump and stone to keep my nutrient resivoir aerated.

QUESTION ABOUT FEEDING- do i feed every day? or just when it says to on the feeding schedule? i read some where you only feed it on every other water. what is the proper way to feed my plants?
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Water...water..feed...water...water...feed...but there are different schedules...maybe someone else will advize...it might have something to do with the size of pot...medium using...and plant...better yet ...check this link...Bunzboy's Flora Feeding Schedule for Soil Growers.
 
Re: PPP Clone, BPN, Soil Tent Grow!

ilikebike said:
these clones were transplanted from the cloner 6.5 weeks ago. but they are not that tall, how do i know what dose of certain BPN nutrients i need?
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ilikebike said:
QUESTION ABOUT FEEDING- do i feed every day? or just when it says to on the feeding schedule? i read some where you only feed it on every other water. what is the proper way to feed my plants?
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Whats good ILB!!!
first off, you want to start it off in the seedling or cutting stage, that would have been weeks 2 and 3... so your going to want to start there... for your feeding question... if you are using FP Organics, then you want to feed every other watering!!!

don't hesitate to contact Corey!!! he will answer any questions you might have about his nutes!!!


Also, your link is now active in the BPN Army Blog
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Re: PPP Clone, BPN, Soil Tent Grow!

just went to the hydro store got 1.5cu feet of FFoF soil, a small bottle of SuperThrive, and a 7g "tub" of RootTech. I plan on using the root tech for when i take clones off of these plants. also i will add a drop of super thrive in the aerocloner but i also plan on using it as an added supplement to my original BPN feeding schedule . Going to get some small drainage rocks to lay on the bottom of the pots to get excellent drainage. i dont really care about having to water more i feel like its better for the plants to have good drainage than retaining quality's, plus ffof is loaded with perlite so i should be straight.

I can cut clones off of clones right? like these plants all started as clones, i can still clone these plants right?
 
Re: PPP Clone, BPN, Soil Tent Grow!

You bet you can clone clones! In the past I have cloned generation after generation by doing so. I usually take the cutting and put it directly in a cup of water that has some Thrive in it, a drop or two and let it sit ther for a few minutes before it goes to it's final destination.
 
Re: PPP Clone, BPN, Soil Tent Grow!

so im looking at a Control wizard wall mounted ph,tds, and temp meter. cost $200 shipped but it constantly monitors those levels in your reservoir tank and the numbers are illuminated in big bright LCD read out. super easy to calibrate. I feel like it will just be worth the money it will be peace of mind for myself. on my way to the store. gonna pick up a few little things. also am trying to build myself a carbon filter for the grow tent. heres my list

-bag of 3/4'' rocks
-bag of perlite
-small fan
-2 thermometers w/ humidity
-aquarium tank heater
-(2) 40w t12 bulbs
-6'' to 4'' reducer
-4'' end cap
-4'' coupling
-8'' end cap.

once i get myself a new camera im gonna go picture crazy!
 
Re: PPP Clone, BPN, Soil Tent Grow!

Dr. redwhite, i am going to start putting some money away for one, its not a necessity right now, but sure would make things easy it i had one! Got some pictures finally. the plants look great, they are starting to really fill in, the 2 i topped have concentrated their energy to other "tops" so looks like it is working, i just topped another one of them today, well see what happens, heres some pics! (i also fed them with a low strength dose of shultz 10-15-10 liquid plant food)

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Re: PPP Clone, BPN, Soil Tent Grow!

Looking really good Ilikebike!!! Lovin the Corona pot!! awesome!!! hopefully she will be skunky like corona too!!! :) Really nice setup!!!
 
Re: PPP Clone, BPN, Soil Tent Grow!

thanks icemud, appreciate you stoppin by! that corona bucket may look cool but it sucks because it has the holes for the handles in it and i couldnt fill it up with soil to the top so the lower branches dont get any light. I am transplanting into REAL flower pots tomorrow. got myself a bag of FFOF and some small drainage rocks to put on the bottom of the pots. Thanks for the kind words, really excited about what were doing here and to be part of this community. Hopefully we will be doing another batch of clones off of these babies.

Question

Do you suggest using one plant as a designated mother (Height would be an issue eventually we only have 5') or taking a few clones from each plant?
 
Re: PPP Clone, BPN, Soil Tent Grow!

Haha well this morning i wake up to a wonderful email from UPS saying my order of nutrients had been damaged and they need to be sent back. They were about 15 miles away at the ups store i should have just picked them up but o well, hopefully the driver didn't get in an accident or something! So now i gotta wait at least another week so im not sure how i want to feed my plants because they will only be in veg for another3-4 weeks. I am probably going to do what some one suggested and start it from the veg 1 stage on the feeding schedule. and work it up from there, i will probably only give them half strenth doses because i dont want to over feed them, i feel like its easier to feed them than it is to flush the food out if you over do it. im a little nervous about having to literally feed the plant like a child to make sure it doesn't die or get sick. haha well i guess this is a good way to learn!
 
Re: PPP Clone, BPN, Soil Tent Grow!

ilikebike said:
Haha well this morning i wake up to a wonderful email from UPS saying my order of nutrients had been damaged and they need to be sent back. They were about 15 miles away at the ups store i should have just picked them up but o well, hopefully the driver didn't get in an accident or something! So now i gotta wait at least another week so im not sure how i want to feed my plants because they will only be in veg for another3-4 weeks. I am probably going to do what some one suggested and start it from the veg 1 stage on the feeding schedule. and work it up from there, i will probably only give them half strenth doses because i dont want to over feed them, i feel like its easier to feed them than it is to flush the food out if you over do it. im a little nervous about having to literally feed the plant like a child to make sure it doesn't die or get sick. haha well i guess this is a good way to learn!
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you kidding me, I thought it was only FedEx that tossed the packages around!!!

Hope you get em quick!!!

:peacetwo:
 
Re: PPP Clone, BPN, Soil Tent Grow!

haha i told Corey to bitch at them, maybe a free 2 day shipping should be funded? since they most likely just tossed it around and damaged the bottles like you said. oh well its going to be worth the wait. ill put the nutrient reservoir together when the nutes finally come in. i still plan on re potting the clones today into the new pots and soil today. should be able to take some pics soon. thanks for stopping by astonr!
 
re: BPN Closet Scrog Grow

Mini Update!

so i got the babies into new pots and fresh FFOF soil. The plants were running out of room in the old pots you could see roots on the bottom of the dirt ball. The new pots are slightly bigger than the older ones we were using, i assume these will be an ok size as our plants arent going to be too tall

They look good in the new homes, nice even soil. one of the plants needed to be staked because it was falling over a bit. Also we watered them with 6.0ph water with a drop of super thrive in it. Still impatiently waiting for my nutrients that UPS damaged:yikes: Other than that everything is looking super! temps are at about 80*f - 86*f.
We may add another 4' 80w florecent light in the tent at some point. Also we plan on taking 3 clones each off of the 3 best plants. This will happen some time at the end of January or the beginning of February
 
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Ok so i got some good and bad news, ill give you the good news first to soften the blow.
My Blue Planet Nutrient Elite 3 Gallon Trio came today. Thanks Corey!

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The caps were taped shut for no spillage, i remember some one saying their room smelled strong from the nutrients but i don't seem to notice it at all. 3 Gallons should last me a little while! we mixed up a 5gal reservoir with a half strength dose of crazy growth mixture so we gave it 5ml to every gallon (instead of 10:1) that means 25 ml total in the 5 gal reservoir and also approximately 2.5ml of Liquid Bloom Booster. Threw an air stone in it and put the cover over it. we didnt want to feed today because they were already watered and (here comes the bad news) The plants were showing some kind of problem about 2 days ago i didnt know about, but i was just informed today. all the plants seemed to have the lower branches turn brownish and all the leaves sag down so the plants looked like Ti-pee's. We did transplant the plants into different pots less than a week ago so it could be transplant shock. After the transplant i did put a small amount of superthrive in the watering not sure if i put to much in, can you fuck your plants up from giving a tad to much superthrive? heres a picture a leaf that was saved to show the discoloration, i cant tell what it is im not that good at diagnosing plants can any one guess?
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I mean we kinda have been stressing them a bit with the topping and transplanting and what not but i think its the transplant shock that caused it not sure. they seem to have recover a bit. one of the plants is still kinda droopy as seen in this pic
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but the rest look ok.

In this picture you can see where the lowered dead foliage was
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ok and my last main concern is im pretty sure i am seeing early signs of sex on EVERY plant in my tent. There is small white hairs coming from almost every node, some of them have turned brown and withered up. im afraid that they may have gotten tricked into flowering and i don't know how, is it because we took the clones so late to the flowering stage that they thing they should be flowering right now or something? i checked the timer and the lights are still on a 18/6 schedule. I'm a little concerned about this, not sure if you can see the white hairs in the pics but they are their, any one have any thoughts?

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We will probably feed the plants within the next week, depending on what happens with them. i hope they are not fucked up ill keep y'all updated!

PS: the more i am thinking about it im wondering if its because i didn't sterilize the pots and drainage rocks before re-potting my plants, there must be some kind of chemical on the pots and/or some chemical or an ABUNDANCE of nutrient in the drainage rock dust. The roots got tampred and with and probably damaged alot because i tried to shake alot of the old soil out of the rootball. Just a thought.....
 
re: BPN Closet Scrog Grow

Hey Bike I have 2 soil plants and 7 hydro plants. One of my soils is doing the same thing and even looks like I did a defoliation on it from so many leaves discoloring and dying. I believe in my case it was the ph. I didn't know there was a difference between soil and hydro ph. Now I do. Have you ph'd your plants since the transplant?
 
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i dont know what my soil ph is, but we just transplanted into fresh FFOF i think the ph is 7.0. We water with like 6.2-6.5 pH water. It seems to be gettin better ill keep yall updated

ALSO: ok and my last main concern is im pretty sure i am seeing early signs of sex on EVERY plant in my tent. There is small white hairs coming from almost every node, some of them have turned brown and withered up. im afraid that they may have gotten tricked into flowering and i don't know how, is it because we took the clones so late to the flowering stage that they thing they should be flowering right now or something? i checked the timer and the lights are still on a 18/6 schedule. I'm a little concerned about this, not sure if you can see the white hairs in the pics but they are their, any one have any thoughts?
 

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